More at the link but it's all in all a very good read.
https://kotaku.com/the-master-chief-collection-is-what-happens-when-a-stud-1831925439
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Kotaku: The Master Chief Collection Is What Happens When A Studio Doesn’t Give Up On A Game
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More at the link but it's all in all a very good read.
https://kotaku.com/the-master-chief-collection-is-what-happens-when-a-stud-1831925439
I'm glad that they did stick with it and try to fix it but it doesn't change the fact that it shouldn't have released in the state it did in the first place. This is not something we need to see more of going forward. Fact of the matter is if you burn a lot of your fans who buy the game early they probably aren't going to return 4 years later when you finally decide to fix it. Too many other things to play.
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as others said, I applaud that they didn't just give up on it but all the negativity early on made me keep away when I still my xbone.
I hope every studio now will release unfinished games so we can thank them for fixing it after couple years
It wasn't unfinished. 100% of the content it has now was there at launch. It was just buggy and had really bad servers to the point where multiplayer was unplayable at launch.
Shouldn't have been released in the state they released it in to begin with, but yeah, the support's appreciated.
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Two years actually, it received updates in 2015 and work began on it again in 2017 as that is when they had the budget, platform and tools to rework the entire collection.
Since when is road safety even comparable?
Right? This article seemed awfully positive for a game that took them 4 years to fix??? We're supposed to wait around all this time for software to get up to working standards after we spend our money buying it? And we should be thankful they didn't give up? I guess I'm happy they didn't stop, but that doesn't really right the original wrong of releasing a incomplete product.
As others have said, it should never have been released in the state it was in.
Good on them for getting around to fixing it after they burned a lot of fan goodwill and realized the brand was in danger? No, you don't get accolades for fixing a mistake you allowed to happen.
Good on them for getting around to fixing it after they burned a lot of fan goodwill and realized the brand was in danger? No, you don't get accolades for fixing a mistake you allowed to happen.
I don't buy into this mentality at all. They should have released a complete and working product from the start when it was full price. By the time the game was fixed you could buy it for a fraction of the price. I'm only semi-joking when I say the game shold have been cheap at the start when it was broken and gotten more expensive when it got fixed.
No fuck them and every dev and publisher that pulls shit like this.
No fuck them and every dev and publisher that pulls shit like this.
It should have been released initially like this (fixed), but I am happy they didn't give up on it even though it took years. They gave us mixtape matchmaking which I feel should be in every FPS going forward - sometimes I just want to play H1 slayer 4v4 and 8v8, but other times I only want H4 BTB.
I'm glad I have the game digitally, in hopes that they put MCC on pc eventually (please!).
I'm glad I have the game digitally, in hopes that they put MCC on pc eventually (please!).
If it got a PC release I feel the MCC would get a boost in popularity.
Yay, now the 2001 game and number one reason to buy a Xbox One in 2013 is finally playable in 2019. Guess I'll dust off my copy and get my Kinect Day One edition out of the box. Only took 18 years to be delivered to me. Thanks!
Cars can kill people if they have malfunctions. A buggy video game is just going to disappoint people.
I've been playing it on and off since it was fixed. I love classic Halo multiplayer. But the player base is not there anymore. Especially because even the small existing player base all have different preferences in modes/games which further segments itself.
This was an issue since release even with the bugs and server woes. This is really four + games and it barely has ever had enough players for one. Options are awesome, but it almost feels like back in the day with paid DLC map packs splitting players up.
This was an issue since release even with the bugs and server woes. This is really four + games and it barely has ever had enough players for one. Options are awesome, but it almost feels like back in the day with paid DLC map packs splitting players up.
How many proper non-beta updates have released between May 2015 and now?
They took a lot of time to save the game, a lot of time prevented me to buy an Xbox one on first place
Is it surprising when you have articles coming out like this one implying they deserve some kind of a pat on the back for this debacle? Did the gaming press even take them to task in the first place when they released it? Game is sitting at a comfortable 85 on Metacritic. Just typical.
Microsoft was a different company with different leadership when MCC launched. They turned up the effort once Spencer took over Myerson's position. I don't think it was a coincidence.
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It's received atleast 3 or 4 major updates. The first one fixed the game and brought in 4k and HDR support. Since then new features have been added including new UI elements, Matchmainjg Composer and modern aiming. More updates are planned including a Custom Game Browser.
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Neither do I since I don't know what MSC is.
MCC on the other hand plays great now!
EDIT: Seriously, you can give them props and be happy with the state of the game is now without forgetting the shape it launched in. Meanwhile, how many of those holding it against 343i continue to support Destiny, COD, EA, Ubisoft, ect after they release buggy/incomplete games or microstransaction them to hell and back?
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I don't think anyone will forgive how it launched, however what I can play now and the support it has now is amazing. The Composer and the new aiming system have now made it my daily game, I've put a lot of time into it just in this week and I don't see that stopping.
Again though my statement does NOT imply I forgive the way it launched, but I am happy that 343 is fixing it and letting the experience finally shine.
Exactly lol. I give them props for eventually fixing it but man the game was dogshit for a LONG time. Even well after the patches before they 'fixed it' I had all sorts of issues in the SP with save points and achievements popping and I'm not even complaining about the terrible MP matchmaking etc.
I wonder. Have they fixed the splash screen at least? The "Microsoft Studios" one when you start the game that used to freeze for a second? I know it's a non issue but it just showed how bad the quality control was on the entire project.
MCC is just one Halo Reach 4K remaster away from being one of the best compilations of all time. Given I only paid a tenner for it and the ODST DLC, I feel like I did pretty well.
I feel bad for those who bought on launch hoping to roll back the years with some Halo 2 MP but my focus has always been the SP portion and MCC delivered just fine on that, even in its cobbled together state before the massive overhaul.
I feel bad for those who bought on launch hoping to roll back the years with some Halo 2 MP but my focus has always been the SP portion and MCC delivered just fine on that, even in its cobbled together state before the massive overhaul.
It only took FOUR YEARS to fix AKA the time it took to release the real halo 1 and 2 plus a year
Because the game now is significantly better than it would have been if it launched without issue on day 1. 4k, HDR, match composer, modern aiming, new skulls, offline LAN (wasn't even supported by the console at the time) and that's not counting upcoming features like the customs browser. Then there are wildcards like Custom Edition content possibly coming over to the MCC. That CE content is even on the table is astounding.
What modern collection even comes close to the MCC in being this superior over the originals?
Agreed, I mainly played the SP portions of the game at launch and it played fine for that. The multiplayer I tried also worked at the time, but admittedly I didn't play many games so I can't comment on how "broken" it was for those who played it more.
Now that my kids are a bit older, it's been great to go back on play the campaigns in co-op with them and they have even been playing it on their own when I can drag them away from Fortnite/Madden/2K.
The fact MCC evens exists as a thing is cause for celebration in itself. Its very disappointing the state it originally released in but looking at whats available now, it is a really special package of some of the best FPS games of all time.
All it needs now is a PC release, oh and Halo: Reach added too.
All it needs now is a PC release, oh and Halo: Reach added too.
Glad to see the players are coming back, too, with MCC now already at #15 of the most played games on Xbox.
The recently added "modern aiming" feature is simply gorgeous, making all the games feel like modern shooters.
Halo MCC today is one of the most impressive collections in existence.
The recently added "modern aiming" feature is simply gorgeous, making all the games feel like modern shooters.
Halo MCC today is one of the most impressive collections in existence.
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That is all well and good but we shouldn't really be celebrating that something was fixed two years later like everything is forgiven. You can't really expect consumers to be able to forgive companies who launch games when they are not ready and take tons of time to fix. I bought Diablo 3 at launch and gave up on it in vanilla after it was clear that it was not a great game. Blizzard from all reports fixed a lot of problems with the game but I had moved on.
Going back to a game after you have soured on it is not going to happen for a lot of people.
Going back to a game after you have soured on it is not going to happen for a lot of people.
Hardly.
They continually updated it for about a year after launch. By then it was in a playable state, albeit still fairly buggy.
They then started work on it again towards the end of 2017 and now it's not only completely fixed but they've added a whole host of extra features.
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Awesome.
Now where is the DF Analysis?
Could've used some attention for updating every game in the collection so well..
Now where is the DF Analysis?
Could've used some attention for updating every game in the collection so well..
It was unfinished, you just explained exactly how it was so.
"Feature/Content Complete" != "Finished"
I was able to play the content/features at launch, including multiplayer so I wouldn't say it was completely unfinished. My understanding is that the issues found after launch were not seen prior to launch, but we'll need to wait for a proper post mortem on that to understand what happened.
You don't have to imagine. Ford never have fixed their Pinto and Bronco but found it cheaper to pay out settlements.
MS and 343 are definitely to blame for the poor launch, but you can see how MS has changed after Phil took over.
If only they can have Reach 4k in MCC and launch it on PC. Maybe announce it on E3 this year?