No idea, but 2018 was a cracker of a year for Sony so if that's the case then I'm hoping 2019 is just as 'samey'.
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Kotaku: The State of PS4 and Xbox One in 2018
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No idea, but 2018 was a cracker of a year for Sony so if that's the case then I'm hoping 2019 is just as 'samey'.
"In March, we had Santa Monica's God Of War, which is beautiful, with a strong story—not a bad start for a franchise overhaul."
For what is arguably the game of the year and best Sony exclusive ever, that seems very little tbh. Also, the whole "samey" argument is laughable as usual
For what is arguably the game of the year and best Sony exclusive ever, that seems very little tbh. Also, the whole "samey" argument is laughable as usual
My issue has been about arguing in bad faith. Accusations of fanboyism have no place in a public discussion, and only betray a cynical viewpoint on behalf of the critic. If you can't disagree without calling people fanboys, or that they're clickbait, or what have you, then why are you even talking.
Not you, obviously, but you hopefully get what I mean.
Morality is completely subjective though. You're trying to say something deep but it's just not working at all.
He is arguing in bad faith or at least not fact checking .
It would be easy to see that GOW came out in April and only one of those games have towers .
The PS user base so much bigger than switch that most PS owners don't have switch to care about if indies play better there.
I thought he was comparing them to each other and calling them same-y, which is... huh?
All are realistic looking, story driven cinematic third person games.
Same goes for HZD and UC4 or the Last of US.
On the other hand Nintendo has only cartoony and stylized games.
Ironically the only really diverse first party games lineup has Microsoft.
You can do it every year because the majority of games are sequels that builds on the original, RDR2 is samey so is Smash Bros. /shrug
Channel that emotion into yourself and maybe you'll improve as a person. I don't matter in your life, don't waste energy obsessing about me. Worry about yourself.
I mean Xbox and switch aren't doing anything new either... more smash, forza, and Pokémon...
I don't see why people are getting worked up about the Detroit Become Human take. It wasn't very good. It looked good but thats about it. The gameplay was not there, the story was plain and predictable. It didn't even have the weird David Cage stuff I expect. At least then it'd be bad but amusing. As far as Shadow of the Colossus, it was the second time the game's been remade. It's an amazing remake but it's the same game and you have to rebuy it. I give it the same enthusiasm as Red Dead 1 or Skate 3 being 4k on Xbox One X.
With that said the year for PS4 was still amazing because GoW was incredible. Spider-Man isn't on it's level but it's really good too. The only notable exclusive this year for Xbox was Horizon 4. Nintendo didn't have any exclusives I was interested in this year but I keep hoping I'll get some Metroid news soon enough.
With that said the year for PS4 was still amazing because GoW was incredible. Spider-Man isn't on it's level but it's really good too. The only notable exclusive this year for Xbox was Horizon 4. Nintendo didn't have any exclusives I was interested in this year but I keep hoping I'll get some Metroid news soon enough.
That's just incorrect. Opinions are views or judgements that are held regardless of facts -- when facts are presented, yet a person still hold the same opinion ... Well, they're wrong.
How Shadow of Colossus, God of War and Detroit(lol) are the same? Are they really playing those games at all?
Not sure this "pirate co-op" could ever bring even a sinlge drop of envy from other plataforms, really.
Not sure this "pirate co-op" could ever bring even a sinlge drop of envy from other plataforms, really.
Reading this you'd think Ps4 had an average year and Xbox One had a good year.
When actually Ps4 had its best year so far and Xbox had another extremely lackluster year.
Like, I consider 2014 to be Ps4s worst year so far, and that was still better than Xbox 2018.
If the goal of the article was to inform readers about the state Ps4 and XboxOne are in, it failed.
When actually Ps4 had its best year so far and Xbox had another extremely lackluster year.
Like, I consider 2014 to be Ps4s worst year so far, and that was still better than Xbox 2018.
If the goal of the article was to inform readers about the state Ps4 and XboxOne are in, it failed.
No I understand what you mean. To be honest I do think talking about bias has a place...maybe not calling fanboys, but we don't talk about bias enough. Not just in journalism but game dev too. There was that comment from a naughty dog dev upset that crash had come to Nintendo that made me annoyed. Then I'm pretty sure FF has prioritised Sony due to internal bias. There were some weird interviews in the lead up to XII:TZA. It affects how well games sell due to media reporting, it affects what games are made in the first place. Console bias is not just the fans alas. At least in my opinion.
But what has Playstation done for us in the week this article was written? :)
...What.
Morality is a set of value judgements based upon a subjective truth, certainly, but that subjective truth is anchored to notions of "what maximizes the most happiness"—something philosophers have argued over *for millenia*. A video game console "debate" is anchored on nothing. Opinions about a piece of media extend only from that media. They cannot be any more valid than any other opinion on that media.
You can't claim that "WELL MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE" is on the same scale of argument as a *game console*.
Whoever wrote this piece should have sticked to the facts. I can also disregard PS VR or software I'm not interested to play in the platform (or any other, for the matter), but doing so in what's meant to be a neutral assesment gives an impression of parciality. Detroit was a hit, Astro Bot and Moss are terrific games, not to mention other omitted high performers as MLB, Tetris (co-publisher) and Firewall for the same VR segment before neglected.
For the future, benefit of the doubt? Everything is improvable, but this was a very good year, it doesn't deserve so much susceptibility.
For the future, benefit of the doubt? Everything is improvable, but this was a very good year, it doesn't deserve so much susceptibility.
It's probably the most complex branching narrative that's ever been released. I have some of my own issues with aspects of the writing and a few plot holes, but I don't think you can just outright dismiss its quality. It's definitely not a dud.
Paying a fraction of the cost of a game isn't a positive? Along with access to lots of other top quality games. It's quite clear why it's been received so well.
...But what facts has *anyone* presented here? That this is supposedly PlayStation's best year is *entirely subjective*. God of War taking home GOTY doesn't make it any less subjective.
lol at Detroit being a dud. If there wasn't the workplace issues, you can bet your ass that game would have reviewed better at hackey places like Kotaku, Polygon and Waypoint while not getting passive aggressive statements that a high school student would use.
This is about as far as I got. Terrible article.
This also is not a sign of complacency, just different strategy. Sony has far too many franchises that are single player only, which don't fare as well in the Netflix style as MS's strategy of online or games that focus on getting updates/content every few months. Ie. their library is focused to keep people using MS Netflix. I don't know if Sony is not being wise to do this mind you, but it isn't because of complacency.
This is about as far as I got. Terrible article.
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But criticizing a console's lineup because those games were also available on a different machine the author prefers is weird as fuck. It's like the Persona 5 review that had "not on Switch" as one of the cons.
If you're writing an article with the name 'The State of the X in 2018', you're essentially writing an essay and it should be somewhat impersonal rather than opinionated. There's nothing wrong with any of this as op-ed, but the presentation of these articles isn't congruent with that: they imply a level of seriousness and objectivity that simply aren't in the text. Unfortunately in the end it comes off as someone fundamentally quite biased trying to seem objective, and it ends up with various bits of utter drivel.
Samey. Little more than parroting console war nonsense.
Samey. Little more than parroting console war nonsense.
The future is bright for all platforms.
PlayStation had an amazing year first party wise - emphasis on delivering games to play.
Xbox had a notable year for services and building first party - emphasis on future games that are at a very early stage of production.
Switch had a great year with Pokemon and Smash - 2019 seems questionable as I can only recall a mainline Pokemon game coming.
All in all - the downplaying on PlayStation reeks of pre 2013 levels where everybody was of the opinion that XBOX would annihilate PlayStation.
That GAF thread alone saying PlayStation will exit the hardware business was hilarious and so representative of the bubble that a large majority of the forum exist in.
I expect more click bait articles predicting doom for PlayStation as we head into the next generation and the reality being it is a monstrous success as usual.
PlayStation had an amazing year first party wise - emphasis on delivering games to play.
Xbox had a notable year for services and building first party - emphasis on future games that are at a very early stage of production.
Switch had a great year with Pokemon and Smash - 2019 seems questionable as I can only recall a mainline Pokemon game coming.
All in all - the downplaying on PlayStation reeks of pre 2013 levels where everybody was of the opinion that XBOX would annihilate PlayStation.
That GAF thread alone saying PlayStation will exit the hardware business was hilarious and so representative of the bubble that a large majority of the forum exist in.
I expect more click bait articles predicting doom for PlayStation as we head into the next generation and the reality being it is a monstrous success as usual.
SotC is anything but story driven, nor is it Cinematic. Like yeah they have realistic graphics, but the artstyle in all 4 is completely different.
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I'll take your word as after my play through I had no interest in replaying it or even looking up different endings. I think I liked Beyond Two Souls more back on PS3 and that had some really annoying combat sequences. I went in wanting to like it too since even with the odd decisions in previous games I at least enjoy my time playing Cage's games. Part of me wonders if all those Tell Tale games just ruined this style of game for me.
I still need to read the Xbox article, but I didn't find the Playstation article to be nearly as negative as some other people ITT. Seemed like a fair critique of their year, but I'll agree it didn't seem to put much emphasis on just how high the highs were.