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Cool shit. It won't be playable for the next 20 years, but these seed efforts are always appreciated to get the ball rolling. Hopefully, PS5/XSS/XSX hardware being more similar to PC hardware than in previous generations will make emulation somewhat easier.
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Having PC parts doesn't mean they have a PC architecture.
Yup. The PS4 & PS5 having unified memory is going to make PC emulation trickier than people assume.
RPCS3 came out first in 2012 thats 10 years from now. So it might take as long or less even depending if its crowd funded well like RPCS3 or not.
It is based on x86 though.
I'm not saying its gonna be easy. It's just that it is based on the same arch. I think it uses specialized APIs and such but the underlying hardware and arch is very much PC based.
I'll edit my post before starting a confusion
They do, like spine the linux only ps4 emulator there doesn't seem to be a CPU emulator there, so I guess it's "just" virtualization doing most of the work.
For the newer XBOXes, PS4 and PS5 the emulators would be more like Wine/Steam Proton which translate the graphics API and syscalls to the host OS instead of something like PS3 or Nintendo emulators which have to emulate CPU instructions as well.
This is because the newer PlayStations are essentially PCs running the FreeBSD kernel with Sony's proprietary operating system on top. The future of emulation going forward is in Wine-like compatibility layers it seems.
True but the PS3 may be the most complex console ever when it comes to emulation because of it's extremely exotic hardware.
The PS4 is just a weak PC running proprietary optimized code, they are worlds apart.
Makes sense why it would include PS5 if that was the case. Just having compatibility layers should also make good performance a lot easier to obtain without requiring "100x the cpu power" of the systems.
I recall years ago that the reason the original Xbox was hard to emulate because it was x86 based.
Original Xbox architecture is actually not the same as a PC, the CPU was X86 but a VM approach like with modern consoles was not possible for several reasons and X86 might be one of the harder architectures to write an interpreter/jit for also the GPU and other hardware was completely undocumented so this is a very different situation.
Nah not if you can just use virtualization for the CPU and other Hardware like in this case.
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Is there really a market for current gen emulators? 95% of console games are on PC. It just seems like a lot of work for very little return.
There are quite a few PlayStation exclusive games that I'm sure a lot of people would like to play on PC. Bloodborne being the biggest one obviously, but Persona 5 Royal and Spider-Man are also good. Horizon Forbidden West, God of War Ragnarök also might have some demand as we won't see a PC port for at least a year. Of course, I'm going to guess that the emulators probably won't be ready to play those more demanding games before GoWR/HFW get PC ports.
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Yes kyty uses the same approach only it's not linux exclusive.
Technically, yes
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I know it's really just cutscene sequences, but seeing Hitman sequence running at 300FPS+ while the CPU is staying sub 20% is mighty impressive. Troy is right that this will really just be a compatibility layer, which means even PS5 games might possibly be playable on modest hardware? Also, might mean it shouldn't take as much work to get a large portion of the library working.
While I personally prefer just buying the games on my PS5, I find emulator tech super impressive and fun to keep track of so really interested in this.
No it was because it wasn't quite x86. There are slight differences in the CPU and the GPU was customized by Nvidia who themselves were terrible at documentation at the time.
I guess it's a race then - which will happen first? Bloodborne ported to PC, or Bloodborne playable via emulator on PC.
Another one:
Release: fpPS4 v30052022 - PS4 Emulator for Windows - Wololo.net
It seems to be the season for updates on PS4 emulators, with multiple developers getting out of the woods to showcase their progress on PS4 emulation. Today, we’re seeing a recent build of fpPS4,...
wololo.net
Hopefully they can all unify to make one awesome emulator with a shared Patreon.Another one:
Release: fpPS4 v30052022 - PS4 Emulator for Windows - Wololo.net
It seems to be the season for updates on PS4 emulators, with multiple developers getting out of the woods to showcase their progress on PS4 emulation. Today, we’re seeing a recent build of fpPS4,...wololo.net