Christ, that's heinous.
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La Liga app listened in on fans to catch bars illegally streaming soccer
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If you don't have pesky morals then its pretty profitable to just have your way with consumer data and take the slap on the wrist down the line
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To be fair I don't think anyone actually thinks La Liga is the best league.
Actually impressed and can't hate on this. I'm sure whoever installed the app didn't read any of the Terms of Service. It's a great idea.
At this point time anyone who doesn't expect apps, especially free ones, aren't tracking all of your shit, and reselling or profiting from it, is will full ignorant.
Edit: read the actual article and they clearly told users what they were doing. Even less sympathy. Ignorance and stupidity deserves no sympathy from me.
*. "Hey by doing this we're going to do that. Please understand this before you do this"
* <Does this>
* <Does that>
* "Whaaaaaaaa how dare you do that????
At this point time anyone who doesn't expect apps, especially free ones, aren't tracking all of your shit, and reselling or profiting from it, is will full ignorant.
Edit: read the actual article and they clearly told users what they were doing. Even less sympathy. Ignorance and stupidity deserves no sympathy from me.
*. "Hey by doing this we're going to do that. Please understand this before you do this"
* <Does this>
* <Does that>
* "Whaaaaaaaa how dare you do that????
My first thought as well, that's chump change and it's not going to deter anyone else from doing this in the future.
I mean, yeah, fuck the privacy law, they put it in the small print.
once you got dozens of hits from a specific site it becomes more than cost effective to send an intern out there to confirm it vs random blind visits/anonymous tips and reports
I don't know how things work over there in Freedom Land™, but in normal countries the terms of service don't override the law. You can't just write in the terms of service that you're gonna do illegal shit, it's still illegal.
"This app shouldn't do anything illegal" is a pretty reasonable expectation.
That makes sense I guess. Still an incredibly dumb move. How much does the stream cost for a bar? If it's like the US, probably wildly expensive lol
burn that shit to the ground.
Google/Apple knowing everything we say (even if they pretend to just listen to "keywords") is one thing as long as they use it just for profiling (which will be a problem in the future but is fine so far) and in return they give a huge service to the end-user.
La Liga doing it to further their own economical agenda against the end-user's interest while providing a "meh." app is trash and they should burn in hell.
Users might be dumb for allowing access to mic and not reading ToS (notlike most people do), but that shady shit should have never been released.
Google/Apple knowing everything we say (even if they pretend to just listen to "keywords") is one thing as long as they use it just for profiling (which will be a problem in the future but is fine so far) and in return they give a huge service to the end-user.
La Liga doing it to further their own economical agenda against the end-user's interest while providing a "meh." app is trash and they should burn in hell.
Users might be dumb for allowing access to mic and not reading ToS (notlike most people do), but that shady shit should have never been released.
Lol yup. All that insane shit the US has about scummy shit like forced arbitration etc is simply non-enforceable in the EU.
Jeez mate calm down, don't you think that's a bit on an unnecessary insult?
A quick google search shows that they made a net profit of 190 million € last year alone, so yes, that's not too outlandish. I think GDPR fines would be capped at 20 million € max in this case anyway. But the people responsible are probably laughing at the pitiful 250k.
Just because you put something in the TOS doesn't mean it's legal...
As scientists we lately have a lot of problems with consent, ethical review boards and research data storage. Just doing a simple experiment takes ages and requires books of legalese.
We've been considering renaming our consent forms to EULAs. That way everyone automatically agrees to give up their private data for whatever without reading anything.
Just fyi ToS are not legally binding in the US either. Don't know if this would violate privacy laws, but if it did the ToS wouldn't protect them.
