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Lady Gaga will not feature in Cyberpunk 2077
- Thread starter vestan
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Yes, I know. What I'm saying is that even if Cyberpunk ends up being GOTY everywhere just like TW3 I would bet money in TLOU2 winning here.
Quite well!
Matter of opinion I guess as to how you feel the Academy operates. One could argue it awards talent or impact I suppose. But generally speaking, having an Oscar suggests a certain amount of popularity. A Star is Born was a very popular movie, and given that she was the co-lead, I'd say she's well within the spotlight.
Decidedly different scenarios though. She won it for music in a film, and that film reviewed very well. Likewise though, as bad as Suicide Squad was, it was way more popular than it deserved, so that doesn't disprove the question of popularity.
lol you can never go wrong with Peter Stormare in anything. xD
Ooo I'd be feeling these.
lol my contribution why not
I could totally see them making an offer and it just not working out. Do we know when the studio visit took place?
Someone made a joke comment about CPDR not hiring Lady Gaga because she has been an ally of the LGBTQ+ community and CPDR has been... questionable at worst but it seems that the cis het crowd catched feelings and started to latch to that comment and now we all waiting for the See Staff Post... thread title change now =/
Nah I want Michael B. Jordan too. Give my all star internet crush cast lol
I'm over Grimes but she would have been my choice for pop star in a video game at one point, just not anything with CDPR because they're trash.
I'd love Sofi Tukker to do something for gaming. Both of them have a cool style.
I'd love Sofi Tukker to do something for gaming. Both of them have a cool style.
Man all this drama fo nothing. If Lady Gaga was in then it's all good. If she is out it is all good as well. Doesn't matter that much.
That's understandable (Though the movie is a drama). But that's a pretty wide swath of audience: popular movies, popular music, and the Oscars.
Oh I'd just love to know what the hell that's supposed to mean.
more like just some level headed people
you don't have to make this a war of sides
I'm trash, I listen to what I listened to 10 years ago and I watch marvel movies and star wars.
Hold up, your proof is a picture of the staff going to Pride? Do you actually know what the demographics of Pride generally are?
A looooot of the people that go to pride arent very fond of trans people or LGBT PoC, source being my own personal experience and the experience of friends from across multiple countries. Shitty companies with internal bigotry issues also go to pride. Its a useful events for brands that want to seem progressive. They do not act as "proof" of you being pro-LGBT.
Second of all, no. Saying "CDPR is anti-LGBT" means "CDPR is anti-LGBT". Companies have a mission, vision, and corporate ideas. This is a basic lesson of any corporate communication class, a brand has an image and it can communicate different things.
When Gillette makes a positive ad about masculinity, that doesnt mean that suddenly there are no sexists working at Gillette, this is not how corporations work. Likewise, when CDPR handles LGBT topics poorly, that doesnt mean that CDPR is instantly filled by PiS supporters and anti-trans bigots.
If i say "coke is bad" that doesnt mean that everyone working at Coca Cola is instantly bad. You are ignoring how corporations work in order to, unironically, defend a corporation. CDPR fucked up and their poor handling of these topics have make sure than me (and a few dozen lol) refuse to support the company until they improve.
Can't, sorry. They're a company, their offenses were made as a company, therefore I will criticize the company. Their actions reflect on the company's image. It's not just John CEO being a dick. It's a case of a marketing representative being transphobic while speaking for the company and leads doing nothing about it. They can change my views on them if they care about it. So far, I don't think they do.
Precisely.
Read above.
They literally compared the LGBT people working there to Milo, not the company. That's fucked
Why do you hate the guy who drives my local coke truck I don't understand
Relax sis, I don't expect straight guys to follow Lady Gaga at this point because she is more of a queer icon now than anything. Just like Charli XCX
yeah no way CDPR would be able to afford her, and if they wanted to do extra lines/quests later on it'd be tough to get her back to do them.
It's kind of blowing my mind how many people are just assuming the in's on out's of disposable media are common knowledge. Last I knew Gaga was just a pop singer, why would I know she was in a movie, that I'd never be interested in, and have won an Oscar?
I don't even know who most of the alternatepop stars you all are referring to even are.
I don't even know who most of the alternatepop stars you all are referring to even are.
Their point is that hiring LGBT people does not mean you're an ally. Specially when we don't know the work conditions of said LGBT people.
Food for thought.
That wasn't the original argument though. The argument was that they wouldn't hire a gay icon. Them hiring LGBT people directly contradicts that
There are sides though. You don't have to make this an apolitical gig
It's cool you have your reasons and that's fair enough. This thread is a shitshow though and I don't want to participate in it. Adieu.
Some quick stats for 2018-2019
#1 single
#1 album that's multiplatinum and sold over 5 million copies WW
#Album spent 6 months in the US top10
#30 millions monthly listeners on spotify
#nearing 2 billion streams on spotify just for her last album
Gaga is clearly irrelevant in 2019.
Spill the tea.
Also calling yourself an ally and making a rainbow avatar during pride doesn't mean much either. A pet peeve of mine. Donate, do community service in a queer community or use your voting power to earn the ally title.
Just because Alvin Liu says she's not in the game, doesn't mean that she's not going to be in the game.
It wouldn't be the first time a developer has blatantly lied just to keep something a surprise.
It wouldn't be the first time a developer has blatantly lied just to keep something a surprise.
not saying there aren't ... just saying there's no need to escalate things
If the argument is that "CDPR has a company culture that is anti-LGBT", I think it's more than fair to say that marching in a pride parade is a decent rebuttal to that allegation. It doesn't prove that they're perfect allies to LGBT people nationwide, but it does prove that at a corporate level they're accepting of having their brand associated with an LGBT event.
If you insist that participation in a pride parade is evidence of them being anti-LGBT, you may be too far off to rationally discuss this.
No it doesn't? They are in the EU and have accepted EU money, they aren't legally allowed to not hire LGBT people nor are they allowed to ask it before the interview. What kind of arguement is that? There's a difference between hiring LGBT (which they can't discriminate against, you can't not hire someone for being LGBT, wtf????) and having a culture that supports LGBT.
Not going to pretend to understand the slang here, but I think it's reductive to claim that someone who recently starred in a very popular movie would only be followed by folks who follow queer icons. I've heard more people in my sphere mention her in the last year because of that movie than ever talked about her before (People who definitely didn't follow her music).
Lady Gaga remaining an icon within the LGBT+ community doesn't mean people outside of that community wouldn't also follow her.
There is a big difference between hiring non-public people for your team and casting an LGBT celebrity in your game, though. You will never know who is LGBT in their art or dev team, for instance. They're not poster people for the company, and CDPR can keep it that way if they so desire. They're not required to bring these people to the spotlight. Hiring a big LGBT celebrity is a public statement that is impossible to avoid.
And a company who is not an ally would not make such a statement.
Dude, it was a joke. You're putting way too much effort into a comment that was part truth part shade. Basically I was being sarcastic.
I mean, the response could be "well its different to hire one individual who you might not even know is LGBT to actually having a gay icon be one of the main artists of your game" but I honestly think that arguing whether or not CDPR would hire LGBT people to be a bit of a useless discussion.
The important thing here is that CDPR has done shady things in the past and it will be interesting if they are actually able to recover their image with CP2077 or if it will just end up being even more bigoted.
Sure? but accepting that your brand is associated to a good cause does not mean you are a part of that good cause. Like I said, I know of companies and political parties that go to pride now even if they are plenty of internal bigotry to spare. It gives you progressive points which are all the rage these days, especially if you are a big international company.
I never said that participating in pride is anti LGBT, come on. What I said is that going to it doesnt mean much in the long run. Its up to the company to show its support LGBT people with its actual treatment of workers and such.
To give you an actual example, my mom wants to go to pride and she wouldnt hire trans people.
So companies in the EU never discriminate? I somehow doubt that. There are easy ways to avoid asking, like looking someone up on social media, which is something I'd imagine an anti-lgbt company to do
That's fine then. I'm glad it was sarcastic. Hard to be sure on these topics unfortunately.
So because they didn't actively break the law for which they could lose alot by doing so and hired some LGBT, they aren't anti-LGBT? You don't even have any proof they knew they were LGBT before they hired them, heck, we don't even know if the people at that pride had CDPR's backing to go.
It makes it unlikely to me that they'd be so staunchly against hiring a gay icon
Washed up? Still making hits, making $1 million per show and getting good acting roles. People would kill to be that washed up.