Lara's New Model & Outfit In Shadow of The Tomb Raider

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That's bait. Read the first page and tell me it's not filth. Folks are getting banned after the mod warning.

I'm sure you can say she looks pretty or she looks great. Just avoid childish comments like THICC and gifs that show sexual intent. Its weird, personally, unless the intent of Lara's model was to sexualize her. I'm sure comments like this would be okay in a Soul Caliber thread.
Some guys got banned just for saying she is hot, or that dude with dicaprio gif biting his fist.. get banned for that? Wtf? Lara was always designed to be sexy in some or all aspects of her look. Expressing it in same way the developer does should not be cause of ban.
 

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Her outfits in the 2nd reboot have never been iconic. So I'm of just like, "eh, looks like New Lara."

I do like that it's blue though.
 

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Liking the design evolution. Makes sense there would be some extra muscle.

And damn, a lot of red bars in this topic.
 

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Trigger happy mods shooting bans left and right for saying Lara is sexy or posting gifs about the matter? That's a new low. I wonder what actual administrators can say about it?

Lara is SUPPOSED to be sexy. Not in a slutty way, but in a very feminine way. She looks great in all three post rebot games. She represents strong, independent and beatifull woman.
 

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Trigger happy mods shooting bans left and right for saying Lara is sexy or posting gifs about the matter? That's a new low. I wonder what actual administrators can say about it?

Lara is SUPPOSED to be sexy. Not in a slutty way, but in a very feminine way. She looks great in all three post rebot games. She represents strong, independent and beatifull woman.
Posting gifs like the "extra thicc" one open pandora's box to people going into any threads with games about characters that look....good and spamming it.
 
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All that climbing paid off:


Physique In Comparison to Rise:


Muscle mass:

Note this is from their gear guide for cosplayers and isn't exactly reflective of the graphics that'll be seen in the final game. Just the model posed with standard lighting. Also should clear up some misconceptions as some believed that her face had been redesigned again due to the CGI trailer.

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Am I the only one who thinks her new model doesn't look that impressive visually? Like compared to Rise, it seems like the model is a lot less detailed.

Also that's a very weird pose.
 

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I like the definition in her arms and shoulders but they still look like the slider is set at 90 instead of 100, if that makes sense.

I really liked the number of outfits in these games and the details in many of them, so I'm expecting there will be lots to play with.
 

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Am I the only one who thinks her new model doesn't look that impressive visually? Like compared to Rise, it seems like the model is a lot less detailed.

Also that's a very weird pose.
Remember it's a render with simple lighting placed in a PDF and uploaded to twitter. Not really representative of in-game visuals or model quality. Even in the official screenshots you can see details not present here.
 

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Remember it's a render with simple lighting placed in a PDF and uploaded to twitter. Not really representative of in-game visuals or model quality. Even in the official screenshots you can see details not present here.
Then I have to question the marketing team's move. Imo they should've at least released an actual render of the model (with a much better pose) before doing this since, correct me if I'm wrong, this is the first time we are actually seeing Lara's face/full model from Shadow.
 

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I dont have a problem with the new model, but that outfit... i don't like it one bit
 

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Something seems off to me. Idk what it is. I l liked the previous one better. It felt more like her than this one.
 
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Then I have to question the marketing team's move. Imo they should've at least released an actual render of the model (with a much better pose) before doing this since, correct me if I'm wrong, this is the first time we are actually seeing Lara's face/full model from Shadow.
I agree. I said earlier in the thread that the marketing has been a bit messy, the first screenshots released were jpgs on twitter reuploaded from Amazon. There was some miscommunication as well since the Tribeca twitter account stated that they'd have live gameplay while he twitch channel said otherwise. And now our first good look at the in game model with the main design is from a cosplay guide. Just odd all around.
 
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The lack of any type of leather in the straps and gear distances it a bit from Indiana Jones. Drastically more modern or tactical than a nostalgic design.
 

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Trigger happy mods shooting bans left and right for saying Lara is sexy or posting gifs about the matter? That's a new low. I wonder what actual administrators can say about it?

Lara is SUPPOSED to be sexy. Not in a slutty way, but in a very feminine way. She looks great in all three post rebot games. She represents strong, independent and beatifull woman.
She wasn't designed as a sexy character the same way as say a Doa or Soul Calibur character. Its just that some people seems to be 24/7 horny and cant keep themselves to stop acting immature with their "extra ticc" memes.

I actually appreciate that these threads about a female character don't end up a constant spam of hot and ticc memes for once in a gaming forum.
 

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How about making a dedicated topic about general (not specific!) moderation issues then?
Because just a hidden PM without even getting a reply isn't helpful and not transparent at all.

People complain when and where they see issues and unjust actions.
Because the moderation in this topic is looking exactly like the Red Dead Redemption II reveal on the former place. And that topic was an all time low...
And that is how derail and off topic is created. You can't expect people to not comment on it.

Just like i feel the need to do so now, knowing and willingly infringing the forum rules and an Admin / Mod post.
But that is the lesser evil than remain silent...
 

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Way too much red on this thread so i wont ramble except to say-
They should have gone way farther with her muscle tone and mass for her arms and shoulders
And that it's obviously not fair to compare to the naughty gods cause cmon... Chloe still looks like she was rendered with voodoo and black magic.
 

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Also, remember the type of community you’re posting in. Unless the women in these games look like the pornstars they watch every day, they are going to be viewed as ‘ugly’.

This is the natural structure that a vast majority of women have. It’s a damn shame people are so desensitized to porn that they can’t appreciate a natural look anymore. Some folks need to leave their basement and get out and meet people to see what the ‘actual’ world looks like. Beauty comes in all forms.
That's a lot of assumptions you're making there.
Have you thought that maybe some people find some other people ugly or pretty, while some people think differently? And that they also like non-"porn stars" looks (as if there were many in the first place...)?
Seriously...
 

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On the one hand I'm happy they gave her more muscles and that the colours call back to the original outfit. On the other hand as noted by other posters the image they chose doesn't do the model any favor due to posture and lightning. Plus, I wish they made her taller like in the original games.
 
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On the one hand I'm happy they gave her more muscles and that the colours call back to the original outfit. On the other hand as noted by other posters the image they chose doesn't do the model any favor due to posture and lightning. Plus, I wish they made her taller like in the original games.
How tall was Lara in the older games?
 

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They don't shy away from unlockable outfits in the reboot games:
Really wish they would have a bit more fun with outfits. Pretty much all outfits in RotTR feel so grounded and dull, even the armor ones are just snooze worthy. Pretty much looks like the entire color palette for all the outfits where taken from a camo color palette or something
 

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How tall was Lara in the older games?
As you can read in this page Lara has been made progressively shorter since the games were taken away from the original developers, Core design. I find it really sad because imo it's just another facet of "you'll want to protect her" mentality by which the character has been redesigned.
Originally she was 1.80 m. Now she is 1.68 :( Even sadder is that Rise has other female characters taller than her.
 

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You know you are onto something when you keep redesigning your character, sometimes even within release of the same game.
 

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As you can read in this page Lara has been made progressively shorter since the games were taken away from the original developers, Core design. I find it really sad because imo it's just another facet of "you'll want to protect her" mentality by which the character has be redesigned.
Originally she was 1.80 m. Now she is 1.68 :( Even sadder is that Rise has other female characters taller than her.
Yeah, some scenes in Rise were pretty jarring due to the size difference...
 
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As you can read in this page Lara has been made progressively shorter since the games were taken away from the original developers, Core design. I find it really sad because imo it's just another facet of "you'll want to protect her" mentality by which the character has be redesigned.
Originally she was 1.80 m. Now she is 1.68 :( Even sadder is that Rise has other female characters taller than her.
Is that confirmed to be a "you'll want to protect her" design decision or just a result of them going for a more natural and average physique in the first?
 

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I don't know if its the pose but that looks off somehow its like a mix of the gloves and weird looking shirt.
 

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I'm glad we're getting more muscle definition but maybe it's the pose or something but her proportions seem a bit off. Also not a fan of the colors on that outfit, but hopefully we'll get plenty more as always.
As you can read in this page Lara has been made progressively shorter since the games were taken away from the original developers, Core design. I find it really sad because imo it's just another facet of "you'll want to protect her" mentality by which the character has been redesigned.
Originally she was 1.80 m. Now she is 1.68 :( Even sadder is that Rise has other female characters taller than her.
I'd never realized that, that's very disappointing. I'd also completely forgotten about the 'you'll want to protect her' thing from the dev on the first game, super gross.


How about making a dedicated topic about general (not specific!) moderation issues then?
Because just a hidden PM without even getting a reply isn't helpful and not transparent at all.

People complain when and where they see issues and unjust actions.
Because the moderation in this topic is looking exactly like the Red Dead Redemption II reveal on the former place. And that topic was an all time low...
And that is how derail and off topic is created. You can't expect people to not comment on it.

Just like i feel the need to do so now, knowing and willingly infringing the forum rules and an Admin / Mod post.
But that is the lesser evil than remain silent...
This is also, asking to contact mods behind the scene just makes it feel like a coverup.

Not that I think it is, but it's just not a good look.
 

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Went in here to see a cool new look for Lara only to see this thread shit the bed almost immediately. Pretty disappointing.
 

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moderating a gaming forum basically makes you a fascist
Requiring complaints/criticism to be done one on one with a moderator via private message versus in a public forum basically makes the complaint criticism go away/ineffectual.
It's a bad policy and one meant to ensure nobody can disagree what the mods want publicly en masse.

The bannings that took place in this thread make this look like a puritanical baptist forum. LOL
 

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I like the new look, but the lighting in that picture is really bad.
 

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Also, apparently moderation saying stop being weird creepo's over video game characters is cause to believe there's some sort of conspiracy going on. God dammit.
 

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Is that confirmed to be a "you'll want to protect her" design decision or just a result of them going for a more natural and average physique in the first?
No, it's just my take (notice I use "imo" in my post). By still, it's a design choice that undermines the character. I mean, how fans would react if, in order to "humanize" Wonder Woman, or Samus Aran, they were made shorter? At the very least I find that to be patronizing.
Besides, there's nothing unnatural about being 1.8 tall, even for women.
 

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Considering this thread seems incapable of continuing on without devolving into objectification and complaining about people being told not to objectify, there's no reason to keep it open.
 
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