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Last of US 2 frame per frame animation analysis by Motive senior tech animator (Read OP)
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It was the Studio Head of Eidos Montreal (TOMB RAIDER) that said that in a tweet, and people are joking about it.
The biggest thing that struck me as potentially scripted was when Ellie get shot from behind and the bullet grazes her arm, and she reaches up and grabs the wound. Not unbelievable that it could happen, but makes me wonder in what circumstances that would happen in game.
I look forward to watching this when I have time.
I look forward to watching this when I have time.
Search in your feelings because it's real time gameplay and this sequence can be playable in the way you want
Do you remember if that "Blur" game you're talking about had an actual playable demo?
Nothing is fake like some presumed. Great details and some inconsistencies like teleporting animations and stuff that confirm this wasn't staged for the sake of the show but rather real gameplay played.
I'm assuming a lot of the 'fake' posts are being done in mockery of that salty Eidos dev that said it was all fake.
I think 'fake' tends to mean that the game is handing off to canned, non-interactive moments in the game. As in, sections that imply player control aren't actually influenced by player control.
Watched the first one, but he seems impressed and calls it mind blowing and it seems it is a mix between motion capture, fysics and coverage. And if anyone can do it then it is Naughty Dog.
So much f'ing salt that they can pull this of. And then already the replies without even watching the vid. I hope the mod is on standby for this thread.
So much f'ing salt that they can pull this of. And then already the replies without even watching the vid. I hope the mod is on standby for this thread.
As we found out there is now a dodge button .
So in vid you can see that he was saying is possible for them to build a system around which is most likely the case.
So in vid you can see that he was saying is possible for them to build a system around which is most likely the case.
I believe most of us have been through enough game demonstrations to know that they always show the game in the best possible light. Of course the course of a 20 hour journey there will be the odd rough patch or jank but I dont doubt what was shown is 100% in the game.
That's how you know it was a stellar demo. When people question if it real and call it fake or whatever. Lol. ND devs must be loving it
People asking for summary have misconceptions to the point of the video. The dev is talking shop and discussing techniques he can identify nearly every second of the video. It's incredibly impressive.
Awesome, thanks for the heads up OP. Will check it out later.
I haven't seen the video yet but I very much doubt that based on his previous tweet.
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Also, this video makes me appreciate how much effort and attention goes into making good animations. I knew it's hard work, but I didn't appreciate the depth of it until I watched this.
ah, that's true. good point. I'd say choreographed is a much better adjective.
Not saying that text is justified considering the engine should be mature enough to show what the game will look like by release, but do you remember this?It was the Studio Head of Eidos Montreal (TOMB RAIDER) that said that in a tweet, and people are joking about it.
obvious this was smoke and mirrors now considering tlou2 doesn't even match this, but back then everybody believed.
I mean they were doing stuff in uncharted 3 where Drake would be up against a bar and would grab a bottle and use when he did a melee attack near a table. Granted it transitions into a very obvious script when he triggered that, but of course they were only going to improve that transition much much more over time to the point that we don't even see the transition anymore.
I assumed, but the way people are talking about the animations seemed to imply something weird and different about this. It should be pretty obvious to people that the majority of that demo was scripted, like 99% of E3 demos.
Not saying that text is justified considering the engine should be mature enough to show what the game will look like by release, but do you remember this?
obvious this was smoke and mirrors now but back then everybody believed.
Only difference is this was not gameplay and the Last of Us 2 was.
And at that point they even said it's 60fps :/Not saying that text is justified considering the engine should be mature enough to show what the game will look like by release, but do you remember this?
obvious this was smoke and mirrors now considering tlou2 doesn't even match this, but back then everybody believed.
christ this shit again. That was them announcing the game and not gameplay. That was their target for cutscenes. TLOU2 demo was gameplay. Big difference.Not saying that text is justified considering the engine should be mature enough to show what the game will look like by release, but do you remember this?
obvious this was smoke and mirrors now but back then everybody believed.
Why do so many people equate scripted with fake?
There were plenty of scripted sections in TLoU where the game took over the camera and animations so I don't know why people seem to think that because similar things happen in the gameplay video for the sequel that it's apparently fake?!
There were plenty of scripted sections in TLoU where the game took over the camera and animations so I don't know why people seem to think that because similar things happen in the gameplay video for the sequel that it's apparently fake?!
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This is an analysis thread. Please refrain from drive-by posting, even as a joke, as it has the potential to derail. Let's keep this thread on-topic. Thank you.
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The video is not arguing it is not real-time gameplay. It is arguing it is often (but not always) staged/scripted.
They've been using this blend for a long time. The challenge has been making it more seamless. I think at any point the person in control of that demo could aimed and fired earlier or got from under the vehicle.
It's not even arguing, it's just observing when systemic animations are being used and when longer non-interrupted animations are used, which we see fairly often in the sequence.
Assuming what ND said about mechanical improvements/additions are true, this is straight up moment to moment gameplay.
More like E3 in general.
I wonder how difficult it must have been to pre-determine all those different interactions that might happen (shelves breaking down, hiding under cars, etc.) to be able to script all those things.
That was my unprofessional take as well. There's too much detail, too much subtle nuance. It looks performed. The pistol grip drags along and doesn't clip the ground for instance, but this is a game that will have pistol-class weapons with varying dimensions. It looks too specifically tailored.
Here. About 1:10.
Doesn't sound like he's arguing against it. Just when it's an animation playing out rather than part of the system.