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Latest democrat Q poll... interesting results
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Huh, based on what I saw, I thought Sanders did pretty well in the last debate, surprised to him polling so low.
I know it's super early but is there any sense for which of these candidates might accept being Veeps on a ticket with one of the front runners?
In MC's poling, they're noting that Biden's voters' second choice is Sanders and vice versa. Warren's voters' second choice is Harris and vice versa (and Pete''s voters' second choice is also one of the women..)
You can see this in how the QP numbers are moving.
-Yang -Biden+Sanders= 0
-Harris-Pete+Warren=0
You can see this in how the QP numbers are moving.
-Yang -Biden+Sanders= 0
-Harris-Pete+Warren=0
I was expecting Harris would've been a reasonable choice for Biden prior to her attacks on him in the first debate. Now? Not so sure.
I'm wondering if Bernie is enough of a leader to drop out if/when it becomes clear that Elizabeth Warren is ahead of him.
If you would have told me 6 months ago that Warren would be doing this good a few debates in I would have never believed you.
Good for her, seems like she's eating into Sanders? Do they have one of those 2nd choice polls? I'm wondering if Sanders + Warren is the top of their support or can they actually steal votes from Biden.
I havent been following polling, so sorry if this is basic stuff
Lol I see it was posted while I was typing. Thank you!
Send like Sanders had the most possible upside?
Good for her, seems like she's eating into Sanders? Do they have one of those 2nd choice polls? I'm wondering if Sanders + Warren is the top of their support or can they actually steal votes from Biden.
I havent been following polling, so sorry if this is basic stuff
Lol I see it was posted while I was typing. Thank you!
Send like Sanders had the most possible upside?
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Once the field narrows Warren can take him. Bernie will have to drop out and endorse her though.
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Most of Bernie voters go to Biden
right now it's wants driven. When the race is really on during voting and it becomes a need driven race. Biden numbers will go up to unassailable lead
Will they do that if Bernie himself tells them not to support Biden?
This is what happens in politics when the media and then the general electorate buys into the idea of "electability" and "optics" over good policy initiatives and the technical know-how on implementing them. The result is: 1. at best, nothing changes (status quo retained even when your side wins) 2. politicians remain empty suits who are buyable by the highest bidder 3. actual policy is written by lobbying groups rather than competent representatives. This should be a battle of ideas. When people feel desperate for any reason (good or bad), they look to leaders pushing for drastic action (good or bad). This is a time for taking GOOD drastic action. Don't let the only drastic action alternative be bad drastic action (i.e., Trump).
I think it's easy to underestimate just how much of an emotional connection Biden's representation of the Obama years has.
You can get away with a lot if you're the living embodiment of "hey, remember when you were happy?"
My main concern re: Biden at the moment is that Biden either loses to Trump or becomes a Carter-esque safe president, followed in one term by a Trump-But-With-A-Brain Reagan type.
You can get away with a lot if you're the living embodiment of "hey, remember when you were happy?"
My main concern re: Biden at the moment is that Biden either loses to Trump or becomes a Carter-esque safe president, followed in one term by a Trump-But-With-A-Brain Reagan type.
The weirdness w/ the numbers seems like it might be an issue of an undersample of the demographic here.
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You just made the perfect case for him towards independents ...
A lot of people also don't get that there are huge chunks of this country for whom and old white guy who is "just a Republican with Zero racism" is super appealing.
lmao
Wayne Messam outta nowhere
A lot of people would be more than okay with this...
Wayne Messam outta nowhere
A lot of people would be more than okay with this...
Warren / Bernie is a pretty great ticket. Competency, passion, vision, and relateability to the average person.
None of these cowards are taking my spot. They lack not only the BBIQ, but the Gamer IQ, and I doubt they can even cook a good BBQ.
If you want polls, do I have polls for you
Which I mentioned. His numbers came right back up a few days later to a massive lead, and it hasn't dipped since.
Not a difficult prediction to make. Trump just needs to throw out those creep pics/vids of Biden with little kids. Folks will latch on and it'll become emails 2.0
People want Trump out desperately. Biden is the best avenue to achieving victory in swing states.
He's highly flawed, he's cringey, he's probably a bit too old, and he isn't as progressive as we'd all like. But when priority 1 is to defeat Trump, we have to win back those states that just barely handed Trump victory. Biden is probably the surest bet to do so.
Warren is far and away my personal favorite but I can see her having a much tougher time with those states.
He's highly flawed, he's cringey, he's probably a bit too old, and he isn't as progressive as we'd all like. But when priority 1 is to defeat Trump, we have to win back those states that just barely handed Trump victory. Biden is probably the surest bet to do so.
Warren is far and away my personal favorite but I can see her having a much tougher time with those states.
They are scared that Trump will win again, and think the safest choice to pit against him is a recognizable, middle-of-the-road / status quo old white guy who kind of acts like a used car saleman.