That's simply not true and you know it. If you are going to equate college athletics a job, then so are high school athletics.How are they "extra-curricular" when they award scholarships for them? They are in the most literal sense curricular.
The only reason they are "not jobs" is because they don't get paid for it. Which is circular reasoning, as you're using them being "not jobs" as an excuse to not pay them.
Because they go to school and attend classes? There are lots, and lots of paying jobs for students at universities, provided by the university themselves. Do you call paid interns, "not students"?
Again, being paid and being a student are not at all mutually exclusive.
Many people don't. College isn't for everyone.Yeah, they could always just choose to not attend college, great choice.
What I think is different and what I don't respect about the process is that 80% of these students couldn't make it into these schools on academic merit
How in the world would you personally know this? This sounds a lot like low key racism.
Calm down for a second and leave the R word out of it. Has nothing to do with race. He's basically saying the academic standard of these big ten schools, who are know for prestige and toughness to get in, have student athletes in all divisions getting full rides in. You including race means you really just mean football and basketball. Lots of other college sports out there with kids getting full rides, who otherwise wouldn't have gotten into that school on their grades alone.How in the world would you personally know this? This sounds a lot like low key racism.
No it really hasn't. I'll agree that the marketplace and society has put a college degree worth way more than it is, but there are plenty of good paying jobs that don't require a 4 year degree.Your views are backwards. College has increasingly become a requirement for employment these days.
i don't have a lot of problems with your arguments or anything but you are starting to make some major leaps here in assumingHow in the world would you personally know this? This sounds a lot like low key racism.
It's not racism. It's not diet racism. The average SAT score to get into The University of Florida is over 1400. There is no way Aaron Hernandez pulled that out.
i don't have a lot of problems with your arguments or anything but you are starting to make some major leaps here in assuming
Tim Tebow scored an 890. Is he getting into UF without being a star QB?
You've still got a long way to go before you reach 80% of players
Sam Ehlinger is currently enrolled in the McCombs School of Business, one of the most selective and difficult to get into business schools in the nation. See, I can cherry pick athletes, too.
Now cherry pick me a student that got in with an 890 without being a star athlete.
So what you are saying is college is corrupt and unfair, but you wanna start paying kids to play those sports. Because there will be all types of fairness and lack of corruption there.You're asking me to prove lax admission standards for unqualified students who aren't star athletes, like that's a hard thing to do? LO-FREAKING-L. Nespotism is rampant in college admissions. For example, the "Texas A&M former students network" where 3rd generation or greater aggies are given leaner admission standards, the entire Aunt Becky thing, how Rick Perry is literally illiterate but got into college based on his oil connections, etc.
You're asking me to prove lax admission standards for unqualified students who aren't star athletes, like that's a hard thing to do? LO-FREAKING-L. Nespotism is rampant in college admissions. For example, the "Texas A&M former students network" where 3rd generation or greater aggies are given leaner admission standards, the entire Aunt Becky thing, how Rick Perry is literally illiterate but got into college based on his oil connections, etc.
So what you are saying is college is corrupt and unfair, but you wanna start paying kids to play those sports. Because there will be all types of fairness and lack of corruption there.
Exactly. People who make the University money. These clowns just pay straight up to get in via "donations". Athletes pay by being financially exploited. Either way if you don't have the grades to get in you're paying a lot more than just tuition.
That I will agree with. I fully don't think students should get paid. They wouldn't be students at that point. However, they should be able to do what they want with their own namesake.
Again, so we pay high school students too for their "work"?I believe paying people for their work, and not leaning back on lies like "they get a free education" is more fair than the current standard, yes, obviously. I pretty much spelled it out.
How am I objectively wrong? College athletics are not a job. Period. It's not the same thing as a student picking up a job in the school library. Not even close.I was just about to thank Krejlooc for the post you're dismissing. You are objectively wrong here.
How am I objectively wrong? College athletics are not a job. Period. It's not the same thing as a student picking up a job in the school library. Not even close.
You are still trying to dodge your claim that "80% of student athletes don't meet the academic standard." Where exactly did you come up with that figure from?
Because it's not legally classified as a job? You gonna make kids pay taxes on playing a sport at school?
How am I objectively wrong? College athletics are not a job. Period. It's not the same thing as a student picking up a job in the school library. Not even close.
Call them whatever, but pay them.If you're paying the athletes why even bother calling them students? At that point they're employees that happen to be college aged.
Because it's not legally classified as a job? You gonna make kids pay taxes on playing a sport at school?
I think you mean curricular.There's that circular logic again. Curse these ignore list limits.
Alright, again let's pay high school athletes too. How does that sound?So they can't be paid, because it's not a job, and it's not a job, because they aren't paid
What you wrote isn't a word.
Alright, again let's pay high school athletes too. How does that sound?
And you'd be wrong.
I'm wrong that I'd be fine with paying highschool students?
You are correct, and I'll say my bad. My issue is I misread what was written.You're wrong on this one..
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cir·cu·lar
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adjective
- 1.
having the form of a circle.
"the building features a circular atrium"
synonyms:
round, disk-shaped, disk-like; More
- 2.
LOGIC
(of an argument) already containing an assumption of what is to be proved, and therefore fallacious.
Okay, it would be ethically wrong.