JoJo holds up extremely well. If you didn't know GW came out 20 years ago you wouldn't be able to tell that the anime is based on a 18 year old manga arcThis episode was a mini-masterpiece. Crazy to think that the manga came out almost 20 years ago and yet this extremely faithful adaptation is one of the best modern anime.
Also, since I'm out of Italy I had to watch it with the Crunchyroll subs: are they always so rushed? I understand the translators only have a couple of days to work, but I had a hard time understanding some of the dialogue and I can see I'm not the only one.
Boat condom is some Jojo ass bullshit and I love it, it's just not one of my favorite fights when you compare it to White Album, Greatful Dead and Little Feet. Not to mention comparing it to BIG, Bruno vs King Crimson and Metallica vs King Crimson. This seasons been a helluva roller coaster where even strong fights like boat condom even feel a little weak compared to some really strong competition.Boat condom is basically peak jojo logic though, it's great. Also it gives us the dance scene, which is a top 5 moment in part 5 itself.
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Considering how David Pro struggle with production lately I actually wont surprised if the episode delivered between HOUR before airing time tbhThis episode was a mini-masterpiece. Crazy to think that the manga came out almost 20 years ago and yet this extremely faithful adaptation is one of the best modern anime.
Also, since I'm out of Italy I had to watch it with the Crunchyroll subs: are they always so rushed? I understand the translators only have a couple of days to work, but I had a hard time understanding some of the dialogue and I can see I'm not the only one.
From their perspective, someone from the spot the boss doesn't want them to be, threw knives at them trying to kill them.So Narancia just murdered someone that wasn't even being a threat to them? lol
Thats why it never showing up again doesn't bother me at all xDI honestly think it's less forgot and more he intentionally doesn't bring it up because it would make fights with any sort of contact hard to write because Giorno could just throw a frog at his opponent or their attack or create a living shield and fights would be too easy
This is a very good take, frogs never hurt anyoneIt's probably because only frogs are pure enough to cause the reflect. Doppio saves a frog as well.
some parts feel more modern than half of the shonen coming out these daysJoJo holds up extremely well. If you didn't know GW came out 20 years ago you wouldn't be able to tell that the anime is based on a 18 year old manga arc
If the boys had arrived just 5 minutes later lolSo Narancia just murdered someone that wasn't even being a threat to them? lol
I do think Bruno and Co didn't want to take the risk but it was pretty recklessThats why it never showing up again doesn't bother me at all xD
This is a very good take, frogs never hurt anyone
some parts feel more modern than half of the shonen coming out these days
Looking at you Stone ocean and the fact that i haven't met a female manga protagonist as good as Jolyne though i have high hopes for Emma
If the boys had arrived just 5 minutes later lol
We can't tell Risotto would have let them go without a fight either, even if they turned traitors, the gang still killed all of his friends(in rather ruthless ways i should say).I do think Bruno and Co didn't want to take the risk but it was pretty reckless
How would you rank the La Squadra Members in terms of best to worst?
What do you think of Golden Wind so far?GioGio 27
Excellent episode. This is one of the best fights in all of JoJo with two of the best Stands going full force. lt's also probably the gnarliest and bloodiest, and the fact that we got past the Part 3 era censorship is really a blessing. Metallica is a truly horrifying stand - you die slowly, painfully and in the most gruesome way imaginable - from shock, blood loss or just lack of oxygen. The frames of the metal underneath Doppio's skin with the flesh tightly packed around it like a vacuum sealed slab of meat are more disgusting then the actual flesh being pierced.
They do a great job showing Epitath's premonition ability, and the difference between Doppio/The Boss, and how quickly Doppio can lose himself to rage. Also of note is the return of using a Stand like armor, or in this case, Doppio even manages to use King Crimson like an extra set of arms. I do not remember this in the manga at all but they make great use of it.
There is great directorial flair all over this episode, especially during the premonitions. AD Hironori Tanaka and Kai Shibata were firing on all cylinders. This might be the best the extreme closeups have looked yet, and certainly the best the show has looked in months.
We had one episode that looked not as good as the rest and people had a meltdown, so they have a good reason to keep the quality up xDgood. quality hasnt suffered like you think it would running 3cour straight
Like seriously..it was like one episode. Compared to DIU where a lot of episodes looked iffyWe had one episode that looked not as good as the rest and people had a meltdown, so they have a good reason to keep the quality up xD
It didn't even look that bad >_> One punch man fans would be begging for that level of quality now :vLike seriously..it was like one episode. Compared to DIU where a lot of episodes looked iffy
You crazy? That week had so many "QuALIty" memes i was cringing as hard as when the KC JUST WORKS memes got to the anime fandomi must've missed these meltdowns. by meltdowns i assume you mean pointing out the fact that the animation sucked. calling it a meltdown is grossly exaggerated but there is no denying that the fight with the shark stand had subpar animation.
I remember you defending the animation, but I don't feel like that was coming from "meltdowns". I looked back through the thread back when the Crash & Talking Head fight started (Pages 161-165 for 50 posts per page) and I saw only seven posts talking about how the animation was bad (Posts #8063, #8067, #8093, #8132,#8142, #8221, #8249), with most of them not really being that hyperbolic or emotional. I don't think there were meltdowns, atleast not on Resetera anyway.Maybe I browse too much reddit but even on era i remember having to spend a decent time in this very thread saying the episode wasn't that bad. Some people just don't know how much work goes into animating character designs like Jojo's :/
Long term exposure to different social media makes you feel the negativity a bit overblown, just like the some of negativity to this part seemed to vanish once good boy doppio came in, people complaining are pretty vocal, when people that like it only show up when something amazing happens xDYeah I don't get the whole idea that there were meltdowns. People, myself included, talked about how the animation took a step-down, but it never got toxic or anything. If anyone we were trying to be hopeful that the animation quality held up and that this wasn't a harbinger of things to come.
I remember you defending the animation, but I don't feel like that was coming from "meltdowns". I looked back through the thread back when the Crash & Talking Head fight started (Pages 161-165 for 50 posts per page) and I saw only seven posts talking about how the animation was bad (Posts #8063, #8067, #8093, #8132,#8142, #8221, #8249), with most of them not really being that hyperbolic or emotional. I don't think there were meltdowns, atleast not on Resetera anyway.
To think this part would've ended if they weren't there. Fate was not the side of NeroSo Narancia just murdered someone that wasn't even being a threat to them? lol
Yeah social media has a habit of amplifying the most negative voices so I can definitely understand how you heard so much negativity about the part. That being said, I'm glad to see they've really stepped up the quality for this episode, and I'm looking forward to seeing where how the upcoming confrontation turns out.Long term exposure to different social media makes you feel the negativity a bit overblown, just like the some of negativity to this part seemed to vanish once good boy doppio came in, people complaining are pretty vocal, when people that like it only show up when something amazing happens xD
Kind of you for checking though xD made me feel kinda better, actually
They literally got a guy that hasn't been director of animation for years to do this episode, i've heard,Hironori Tanaka da god.Yeah social media has a habit of amplifying the most negative voices so I can definitely understand how you heard so much negativity about the part. That being said, I'm glad to see they've really stepped up the quality for this episode, and I'm looking forward to seeing where how the upcoming confrontation turns out.
boss using the kids just like he did ever since bruno joined the gang :(Throwing the knives at the Gangstars and having them kill Risotto was an extremely genius move, y'all. The more I think about it I get a bittersweet feeling that left me completely satisfied. Hearing Narancia be like "Yeah I got him!" was like damn y'all don't even realize the "according to keikaku" planning that went into that move that y'all were pawns in.
They could honestly ease up on using prepositional phrases. Other than that, they're fine
RISOTTO!
Dude was straight up Magneto, shame he couldn't join Bruno's gang in the end. FUCK.
That's life,not always the deserved victor will winConsidering the reason he wanted to kill the boss was to take over his drug empire I don't think the GioGang would have taken kindly to him. Still, I did want him to win.
Ah but remember, if they had showed up 5 minutes later Doppio wouldn't have noticed Aerosmith and tipped Risotto off that he was a stand user, and the boss' original plan to kill Risotto himself would have worked.
Haha, that's what i love about jojo. Despite the things that obviously come out of nowhere and couldn't be expected, and the rules that change slightly over time, any individual event is soundly constructed enough that once you have all the information you can pretty much accurately predict what might have happened if some small variable were different.
Oh shootAh but remember, if they had showed up 5 minutes later Doppio wouldn't have noticed Aerosmith and tipped Risotto off that he was a stand user, and the boss' original plan to kill Risotto himself would have worked.
Nero was dead either way lol
The crimson king :(
So I want to ask about something really early in part 5 that I got thinking again. What was that scene with Polpo where Girno sees him eating off his finger and then it turns out he wasn't? Like that doesn't have anything to do with Black Sabbath so it makes no sense.
Thanks for filling that in, thats an interesting reference!On the contrary, it has everything to do with Black Sabbath. Tony Iommi, lead guitarist and one of the original founding members of Black Sabbath lost the tips of two of his fingers in an industrial accident at his job at a sheet metal factory. This made him detune his guitar down to ease the tension on his fingers, which influenced the sound of Black Sabbath and heavy metal as a whole.
And speaking of rewatching Golden Wind, I've only just realized Trish's pose in the first opening is the same one Spice Girl first manifests in.
Learned that in an xforts video. I think he has stated somewhere that Part 5 is his favoriteOn the contrary, it has everything to do with Black Sabbath. Tony Iommi, lead guitarist and one of the original founding members of Black Sabbath lost the tips of two of his fingers in an industrial accident at his job at a sheet metal factory. This made him detune his guitar down to ease the tension on his fingers, which influenced the sound of Black Sabbath and heavy metal as a whole.
Some of the most well known JoJo Analyists find Part 5 to be their favourite - Meti,XForts,Oceaniz,Learned that in an xforts video. I think he has stated somewhere that Part 5 is his favorite
Kaleb is a HUGE fanboy of that part too(and he did a pretty dope analysis of doppio this week but im not sure i should post it despite being spoiler free lolSome of the most well known JoJo Analyists find Part 5 to be their favourite - Meti,XForts,Oceaniz,
Kaleb as well i think.