well, sorta, "de mais" can be misinterpreted as "demais" which means "too much", which would change the meaning of the phrase entirely haha
Not crazy, just young lmao, he says that with a straight face cause he's still a kid xP
that's not the read i get honestly. he seems like such a straight-laced kid! It feels out of nowhere coming from his personality, which is so adult in his understanding and view of the world. You'd expect a kid like that to want to use adult terms to be taken seriously.
I meant a kid in a sense that he still believes in dreams and that he can do anything without having the fears a regular seasoned adult would have, he's got no need to feel shame about saying gangstar cause that's a possible dream for him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sure, i agree that's part of his character, but it also feels like there's something there that goes beyond that. a sense of authority that isn't just optimism or confidence, but absolute belief in his goals.
Don't let that distract you from the fact that 100 percent of the liquid is still in his mouth and probably had a chance to be swished around his gums
my theory is that since the piss is technically part of the jellyfish he can now convert it back to a tooth without the piss falling out. but i do agree, he took at least a little bit of piss droplets for the team during the initial absorbtion. a true champ
all the rock cares about is that less people die. it doesn't consider what is right or good in any truly human sense. perhaps what it did for the florist's daughter was for her the ideal circumstance, but remember that it was scollipi's distant behavior through all this that led the florist to believe he had killed his daughter. he misses the beauty of life for the cold fact of it; exchanging one for another, one for two.
isn't nighteye's whole thing that he can't change fate at all? honestly he's more like Thoth if it were used by someone adept at interpreting it.
I think Nighteye realizes that his visions aren't set in stone though. You find so many deeper meanings in these stand shenanigans.
ah, well im not caught up to that point then.
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For the "most boring Jojo" Giorno offers some of the most in depth analysis.good post from Three Years Ago about giorno giovanna i found
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i've had difficulty articulating it, but this helped: if Josuke was meant to be a more human and ordinary protagonist, just a kid who wanted to live a normal fun life and keep his neighborhood safe, then giorno is meant to still be human but to be a person with extremely defined morals and ideals, and exceptional ambition to guide him.
Josuke is reactive: getting involved once the threat directly affects him. Giorno is proactive, actively scrutinizing every aspect of society and people, and getting pulled into conflict by his plan to address the root of the problem from the start.
And what defines this difference between them is their upbringing. Giorno learned early about the darkness in the world, and about the capacity of honorable gangsters to lift others out of it, regardless of what society says about criminals.
Josuke had a happy childhood and loving caregivers who instilled into him both a compassionate nature and a deep trust in society and the rule of law.
They both ended up fighting for something good, and they both could just as easily have fallen into a negative lifestyle: giorno becoming infected with the darkness that beat him down, and josuke's trust turning to complacency, his compassion to apathy.
Josuke has to do a lot of growing up over the course of the story, but Giorno's already had to grow up before his story begins. His arc is the uplifting of others, not his discovery of his own self.
Fucked up childhoods shape the whole way you're gonna act in the future, Giorno's way of shaking because he's repressing tears is a terrible coping mechanism, for instance, and you can write a damn paper on that if you wanted to
it's such a contrast seeing him like that in the flashback after you've been introduced to him as this smooth-talking guy with an easy smile.
Also not everybody understands Japanese language structure. When you explained it to me it added a completely extra layer to Giorno, that you and me both know got lost in the dub.
That's what bothers me everytime someone says the guy had no character growth... after going through that kind of stuff, growing out of your shell and learning to trust others again is a pretty damn hard task, in the manga you can see the guy shaking, doubting himself, some borderline anxiety attacks in fights like white album and such and he grew out of all that... the confidence he shows in the later episodes is genuine, while his confidence in the first battles was more of an act or him showing up a stronger front than he had...
Yeah his ideals were set from the beginning, he just had to work out how to get there, if he was a complete character from the get go he would be the gary stu people make him out to be lol
yeah, there's a difference between a character being "static" and being "complete". a "complete" character would not regard the events of the story they're in as particularly defining in the grand scheme of their life.
It's the use of formal language, not the grammar per se, you can indentify a lot of nuances in the japanese script from that, like how narancia has a "mission mode" of speaking when bucci is the leader(yeah he uses formal speech too!) and in Giorno's case it is like a thermometer of how much he feels like part of the group...
i think a big part of it comes across in the performance even if the translation doesn't get it. interested to see how the official part 5 anime and english bd translations handle it. thanks for elaborating, I'll keep an ear out for it as im currently slowly rewatching gw.
There are major differences between speaking formally and speaking correctly, Giorno's formal is the one you use while talking to people you're not familiar with, it's not as respectful as "humble" language where you lower yourself in order to highten the person you're talking with(although it gets close to that sometimes), but even his formal is very unusual in shonen manga, it's used in characters you wanna make sound rich or princely it's not a normal kid's speech(hence why Abbachio finds him dangerous, kid is being too nice and can sound a bit snobbish). It's the kind of speech where you end all your phrases in "desu", verbs in the polite form "ikimasu", when he's getting anxious or talking to himself he uses informal "desu"->"da", "ikimasu"->"iku", and never adds the ultra informal language the other kids do.
haha of course I'm not expecting you to do all my work for me, this is why I'm interested in learning the language for myself!
Araki still calls Jolyne the thoughest Jojo, i hope it gets announced soon :(
mistaXgiorno is my personal headcanon, so it definitely fits for him to have wanted to make a good first impression to him specifically, lol.
Yeah, they're adorable and i'm glad Araki didn't kill them xD
You don't just stuff half your hand down the pants of a guy you don't care about.
At least Mista took him out for lunch before that o- o
