same
except for a decent chunk of the season lol, ever since the one guy said "that was some serious bullshit you pulled there" ive expected someone to callback that statement at every time
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same
except for a decent chunk of the season lol, ever since the one guy said "that was some serious bullshit you pulled there" ive expected someone to callback that statement at every time
"Diavolo... you were defeated for a reason. A simple one. You just piss off me".
If this means Jotaro shows up and dies to no avail I'm gonna rage.
Holy shit! Jojo is fucking deep!
Lmao me in general.
JoJo is a lot more deep then pepole give credit, i have seen pepole that say Authors like Hirokoshi and Araki aren't good writers and i simply can't agree with that
this is exactly what i think the difference between the two powers is. The World has no actual reliable counter at close range besides... The World.
But while King Crimson has quirks that can be used to plan against it, those quirks make it more versatile in more situations, and in the hands of someone like Diavalo who is the expert at controlling how, when, and where he fights, it truly is nearly unbeatable.
What I'm saying is, people aren't "set out" to do anything, the mind is still working, they're still thinking about it, but then those memories of them making that decision get erased so they just don't remember what happened during the time skip
King Crimson vs Killer Queen Bites the Dust would cause a time paradox probably.
regarding King Crimson vs The World, i'm in the camp that thinks whoever uses their power first wins. if KC sees the future first, he can wreck The World even with time stop being used (he'd still be able to move away and delete whatever the other dude did when time stop ends). if TW stops time before KC sees the future, then KC is boned since he doesn't actually know what's coming up and TW just wrecks him.
this is if it is Jotaro with Star Platinum's The World. with DIO, Diavolo would need to crush his head to defeat him on the first hit because of DIO being a vampire. as we saw in Part 3, even with vampire abilities, DIO can get destroyed by a good blow to the head.
regarding King Crimson vs The World, i'm in the camp that thinks whoever uses their power first wins. if KC sees the future first, he can wreck The World even with time stop being used (he'd still be able to move away and delete whatever the other dude did when time stop ends). if TW stops time before KC sees the future, then KC is boned since he doesn't actually know what's coming up and TW just wrecks him.
this is if it is Jotaro with Star Platinum's The World. with DIO, Diavolo would need to crush his head to defeat him on the first hit because of DIO being a vampire. as we saw in Part 3, even with vampire abilities, DIO can get destroyed by a good blow to the head.
Has anyone had any issues with crunchyroll lately? I can't watch anything because I get an unknown video error despite deleting and reinstalling the app and reactivating my ps3.
I did not have any issues last week. Netflix works just fine, too.
I did not have any issues last week. Netflix works just fine, too.
I dont think King Crimson can see an attack during time stop after the because it seems instantaneous after time resumes even during the time preview.
D: yeah, that part is confusing even though we have some examples, like narancia eating the chocolate and forgetting he did x-x
I consider it as an auto-pilot because it gives the sensation the person wasn't thinking about their actions, but i guess amnesia is the better way to explain it, cause if you had started the action before the erased time you won't notice, but if you started it during that time you'll go "wait,wtf am i doing?", like fugo not noticing the time skip but remembering to thank giorno for the water(cause he asked before skip), while Giorno didn't remember givig him the bottle on the first place(he gave the bottle during the skip) x-x
I legit sometimes just watched it for hype moments/fight scenes especially because sometimes I don't understand what the fuck is going on! But part 5 *chefs kiss
Mista shooting himself is this part's version of Okuyasu being too stupid to use Za Hando
Edit: fuck no that would be Fugo. I forgot about Fugo already.
Unlucky but unkillable. It is an interesting combination.
One goes Backwards in time. The other goes forward in time.
So either the timeline divides into two timelines, one where Diavolo doesn't explode and continues as normal, and another where the world rewinds
Or
There's only one timeline, so KC just can't jump 10 seconds into the future because the future doesn't exist past the explosion
but what does it mean for the results to remain when the result is a time loop that was never initiated. does that loop just become The Future?
The past can't be the future. If we assume that after the explosion, that timeline continues, then he'd skip his death and continue as normal in that timeline while the rewind happens in a new timeline. If not, the further he could skip would be the moment he dies and Kira rewinds, so he'd still die and then the rewind would happen.
And thinking about it, he could probably just skip the part where he explodes in that second loop, but he would've forgotten Kira's identity.
Since nothing can affect him in the erased time, I'm guessing Bites The Dust wouldn't trigger
Yeah but he'd still know... Does it trigger only at the moment of discovery of does it keep checking if someone that shouldn't know found out and triggers asap?
Honestly no idea. Probably the first one but we don't know enough about Bites The Dust
It seems to revolve heavily around the moment someone makes the discovery, they die the moment they discover Kira's identity, but again, we don't have enough info.
it triggers when a specific person reveals his identity directly, even if its just through someone putting the pieces together based on their behavior. it could also be made to trigger for a different parameter as long as it's information. if he learned of it in erased time, the method in which he learned it no longer took place: as far as the universe is concerned he learned it from nothing.
I knew i shouldn't have mashed in programming logic in the mix lol
If it's the moment, diavolo could get an easy win, but we all know they'd be dancing around trying to no be found out and the fight would be lame af cause acting would mean revealing themselves o- o
If it's the moment, diavolo could get an easy win, but we all know they'd be dancing around trying to no be found out and the fight would be lame af cause acting would mean revealing themselves o- o
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You kidding? Thats a perfect way of disposing of trish
Diavolo wouldn't give a single fuck at all about Kira and Kira wouldn't give a shit about uncovering Diavolo's identity, if anything Kira would ask him for tips about erasing his identity and go about his life.
He can use Epitaph to see an undesirable future then he can activate King Crimson before The World activates to see what happens in the future stopped time as time becomes nonlinear.
She would completely disintegrate leaving no traces besides a hand, not even the boss can get a kill that clean
Diavolo can't perceive anything in stopped time, also this is implying that KC is faster than The World, which I seriously doubt.
You want to do what with my daughters hand again? I'll do it myself. This also hinges on Kira finding Trish's hand attractive.
How can someone born from that sinfully handsome man have ugly hands? Also kira has a thing for pink haired chicks
yeah i really think he's just at a fairly high level for a power close range stand, not on platinum or world's level
You sure about that?
From start to finish King Crimson grants full awareness of what happens within the range of activation of erased time. Time stop would happen in an instant in real time but as long as time stops during erased time Diavolo gains total awareness of every action. 'Erased time' time moves in a non linear way where Diavolo would see all actions at once in a single superimposed instance that lasts several seconds of his time. It's not that KC is faster... it's that in erased time the concept of speed no longer applies. It's a causality based ability and he alone will be able to change the outcome of the period of erased time.
Even if he couldn't see what happens during the stopped time he could still see what happens after it. Meanwhile from begining to end of KC's ability Dio's actions will be locked in. He literally can't deviate from his actions, time stop or not. Diavlolo would be able to avoid Dio regardless.
"Prosciutto, where do you get your suits from?" "Kira, where do you get these ties made?"
Pretty sure, yes.
Don't know where you got that it sees things non-linear, King crimson sees all actions in time skip as if time had never been skipped, so it's like it watches a liveaction powerpoint and then it can choose where to jump back in. The thing is that time stop mitigates that since Dio's actions during time stop are outside of time, thus outside what Diavolo would be able to perceive. Only Jotaro was able to see what happened during time stop because he had the same ability. Diavolo's fundamentally different ability only sees time as it flows normally but allows him to jump forward in between points. Dio shouting for time to stop still wouldn't allow Diavolo to see what he does in stopped time, his perception would only be of dio teleporting somewhere else but can't see how he got there.
Speed is irrelevant during skipped time because Diavolo can only inflict harm once time has resumed to normal and KC would definitely not be able to outspeed The World, and even if he somehow did outspeed it, Dio is still conventionally immortal and thus Diavolo's attack, unless he went for decapitation which we have never seen him try to do, wouldn't be enough to incapacitate Dio for long, so he'd die in the next second.
Against Jotaro Diavolo has a better chance since if Jotaro gets sneak attacked the best he could do is try to take Diavolo down with him.
Diavolo doesn't need to see what happens inside time stop. Just seeing that he will die in the next 10 seconds is enough for him to activate time erasure which not only erases the act of him dying but also gives him a free hit on his enemy. After time is erased he just moves at a different direction than the epitaph prediction and waits for dio to stop time and punch the empty space where diavolo was originally supposed to be. After that he will just postion himself behind him and wait for time erasure to end
Your claim that the world is stronger/faster is totally baseless since both stands rank A in speed/power. Even if it was slower diavolo can still sneak up behind his enemy in erased time and time his attack so that he will kill his enemy pretty much the instant erasure ends. This is what he did with both bruno and polnareff. He started his attack right before erasure ends so that his attack lands at pretty much the milisecond erasure ends
Yeah his regeneration would most likely give dio the win but just stand wise kc is stronger
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