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Oct 27, 2017
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An individual identifying themselves as the company's manager, Guillaume de Fondaumière, erased all mentions of the charges against the Parisian video game studio.

There are Wikipedia page changes that go less unnoticed than others. This is the case with Quantic Dream, a world-renowned Parisian video game company, which was cleaned up this weekend of its "controversies" section, which mentioned the accusations of toxic, sexist corporate culture and brutal management. 3,400 kilobytes were removed by a user with the pseudonym "guillaumedefondaumiere", the name of one of the two leaders incriminated by the surveys published by Le Monde, Mediapart and Canard PC in January 2018.

In the justification page of the modifications, the individual at their origin evokes "allegations that were formally contested by the company and [a "controversies" section] having been added for the sole purpose of casting stigma on the company. On the evening of March 11, Guillaume de Fondaumière had not responded to the solicitations from Le Monde to confirm or deny that he was indeed the author of these modifications.

The Wikipedia page of the Parisian video game studio has since been reinstated in its previous version and passed to "semi-protected", a status limiting the possibility of modification to avoid malicious interventions.

The author of the deletions also removed the mentions of the controversy on the pages dedicated to Guillaume de Fondaumière and David Cage, the two leaders of the company, referring to "false allegations based on false accusations and legally false."

The next Quantic Dream blockbuster, Detroit: Become Human, is set to hit PlayStation 4 on May 28, 2018. Revelations about the company's management issues have sparked a number of worried positions from left-wing parties. notably by the voice of Alexis Corbière, spokesman of the Insoumis movement, and Jérôme Durain, senator (of the Socialist Party) of the Saône-et-Loire area, concerning the breaches of labor law in the video game industry.

The case of Quantic Dream is not isolated. Another Parisian studio, Eugen Systems, is also being watched. Some of its employees have just started their third week of strike, a first in the sector in France.
http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/articl...kipedia-de-quantic-dream_5269297_4408996.html
 

VirtuaRacer

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
542
If I sign up to Wikipedia as "jeromefenoglio" and delete the Controversies section on Le Monde will they also publish a piece making a note of the changes in their paper?

Hold my beer.
 

Deleted member 5535

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,656
How stupid someone is to change something in wikipedia in it's own name? That has to be another person. You can't be that stupid.
 

senj

Member
Nov 6, 2017
4,436
If I sign up to Wikipedia as "jeromefenoglio" and delete the Controversies section on Le Monde will they also publish a piece making a note of the changes in their paper?

Hold my beer.
Eh, it's hard to say. It could be someone trying to make him look dumb, it could just be him being dumb.

The user left justifications on each edit that all translate to variations on "removed false and misleading allegations that are denied by the people in question and are being challenged in court", which is the kind of thing people write when they get Mad And Online about their Wikipedia page.
 

Kamisori

Member
Oct 26, 2017
157
France
If I sign up to Wikipedia as "jeromefenoglio" and delete the Controversies section on Le Monde will they also publish a piece making a note of the changes in their paper?

Hold my beer.
They contacted Quantic Dream to know if it was them who edited the article, they had no answer at the time of the writing of the news.
 

darkside

Member
Oct 26, 2017
11,283
Eh, it's hard to say. It could be someone trying to make him look dumb, it could just be him being dumb.

The user left justifications on each edit that all translate to variations on "removed false and misleading allegations that are denied by the people in question and are being challenged in court", which is the kind of thing people write when they get Mad And Online about their Wikipedia page.

I mean if you have no credible way to prove the account actually belongs to him I'm not sure how writing this article is a good idea.
 

ASaiyan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,228
Guess Mr. de Fondaumière didn't want people to forget about these allegations, lol. Someone translate "Streisand effect" into French for him.
 

Y2Kev

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,863
I'm surprised they'd write this without getting confirmation if he actually was the account in question.
 

chadskin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,013
They contacted Quantic Dream to know if it was them who edited the article, they had no answer at the time of the writing of the news.
"on the evening of March 11" -- that's today, Sunday evening. It's a fairly flimsy accusation as it is, at least give 'em a business day to respond before going to print.

I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did edit the Wikipedia article, though.
 

ShyMel

Moderator
Oct 31, 2017
3,483
I hope it was someone else just using his name as an alias. Otherwise, he is not one for thinking things through then.
 

Joni

Member
Oct 27, 2017
19,508
Quantic Dream's games are 'not real videogames' is now Wikipedia-worthy language and not random user forum critique.
 

VirtuaRacer

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
542
"on the evening of March 11" -- that's today, Sunday evening. It's a fairly flimsy accusation as it is, at least give 'em a business day to respond before going to print.

I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did edit the Wikipedia article, though.

I would not be surprised either but, as you correctly say, without evidence this is not something a respected paper should rush to print with. It just looks like they have an axe to grind against Quantic Dream at this point.
 

Slaythe

The Wise Ones
Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,850
These kinds of pathetic cover-ups make me sure that I won't spend a penny on Quantic Dream games.

Yeah of course let's ruin the work of hundreds of people because of what two people might or might not have done.

As usual stop taking everything that's reported for facts, and also learn to dissociate heads of companies and the hard working devs.

I know several people who work there, they don't deserve this.
 

ghostcrew

The Shrouded Ghost
Administrator
Oct 27, 2017
30,362
Don't buy games by devs with scumbag leads. I loved Heavy Rain but there's no way in hell I'm touching anything from this studio again. It sucks but so does homophobia, racism and sexism in the workplace. Fuck Quantic Dream.
 

famikon

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,604
ベラルーシ
If I sign up to Wikipedia as "jeromefenoglio" and delete the Controversies section on Le Monde will they also publish a piece making a note of the changes in their paper?

Hold my beer.
so I google it, just for curiosity :)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde#Controversies_and_politics
According to the Mitrokhin Archive investigators, Le Monde (KGB codename VESTNIK, "messenger") was the KGB's key outlet for spreading anti-American and pro-Soviet disinformation to the French media.

also, anyone remember this https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spécial:MobileDiff/138098195 ? :) It seems usual thing in french wiki.
 
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senj

Member
Nov 6, 2017
4,436
How stupid someone is to change something in wikipedia in it's own name? That has to be another person. You can't be that stupid.
IDK if this is real or not but people get caught doing this all the time. Maybe they think the name isn't visible, maybe they don't realize it's against the rules, but authors and politicians and stuff get caught editing under a user account obviously tied to their name on the regular.

Never underestimate human stupidity.
 

L Thammy

Spacenoid
Member
Oct 25, 2017
50,025
How stupid someone is to change something in wikipedia in it's own name? That has to be another person. You can't be that stupid.

Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained with stupidity.

But, yeah, I guess we don't know. I've certainly known people to do this though.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,767
IDK if this is real or not but people get caught doing this all the time. Maybe they think the name isn't visible, maybe they don't realize it's against the rules, but authors and politicians and stuff get caught editing under a user account obviously tied to their name on the regular.

Never underestimate human stupidity.

True, but I also doubt he did it during a pending court case. Especially when the heat is already on him due to the pending court case as well as the financial loophole they seemed to take advantage of.

Not to mention media spotlight was not on them right now, as in no new articles or the like, so I doubt he would want to bring that back, especially before the game launches.
 

senj

Member
Nov 6, 2017
4,436
True, but I also doubt he did it during a pending court case. Especially when the heat is already on him due to the pending court case as well as the financial loophole they seemed to take advantage of.

Not to mention media spotlight was not on them right now, as in no new articles or the like, so I doubt he would want to bring that back, especially before the game launches.
It's not like it's illegal, or will in any way hurt him in court. It just makes him look like an ass and will get him IP banned from editing.

IDK, I'm not saying this is real, but "this must be a conspiracy because otherwise it's a dumb move" is a bad take. Usually it's exactly when someone is embroiled in a scandal that they start to get upset that their "detractors" are controlling the narrative of their Wikipedia entry, and feel like they have a right to intervene.
 

Expy

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,862
They seem desperate for attention since their last article didn't cause anything to happen to QD (courts found no issues thus far and have dismissed several cases or rule in favor of QD).