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Le Monde journalist who reported the Quantic Dream scandal says he got blacklisted by Sony [read OP]
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except you're doing business with them and bankrolling them and publishing their products so you have to have a better response than that
but he has a grudge against QD/sony so maybe that perfect review was a part of his long plan on making friends with them and then stabbing them in the back.
how do they do it? i'm curious
yeah how hard is it to release a statement like that, even if it means nothing
I hope the journalist there is going to prepare his heart there. Fanboys wont give a crap about his intergrity. They will simply keep saying he is lying as they dont want their precious company soiled.
Woah what the fuck. This is the worst way to go about this.
Sony must've know beforehand that shit like this happened at QD right?
Sony must've know beforehand that shit like this happened at QD right?
Nah, it's a clear indication the journalist has a fanboy vendetta, and they're using their position of power and influence to exercise it. Disgusting and contemptible.
We all know how it would go. How many people (including myself, i admit) were willing to condemn Microsoft for poor treatment of their studios when Scalebound got cancelled based on the concrete irrefutable evidence of absolutely nothing?
Oh yeah? Knack and Blinx would like a word with you, Miss/Mr/Person/Sir!
No worries , just saying that this is a french issue right now. Everything is focused on france right now , because right now the issue is in france.
Guys. He has a pic of an Atari portable, that must mean he's a fanboy against Sony because reasons.
Jesus, I'm kinda glad I didn't see that thread. Things must have been hard to witness considering some of the behavior I have seen in this very thread.
People, I know you might enjoy the products these corporations produce, I know Sony has provided me with plenty of good entertainment products over the years. But please don't think they are your personal friends, or that you have to defend them by discrediting other professionals when situations like these come to light. Please have some self respect.
Sony needs to come out ASAP and confront this. They could simply say, no he has not been blacklisted and quietly remove the blacklist. I believe he has indeed been blacklisted, but as long as Sony hasn't put anything in writing they can deny it and continue to provide them with review copies, etc. all is well. That would be the smart thing for Sony to do. They can't be that dumb.
sadly this is the times we live in, things get labeled fake based on nothing other than some people's feelings and that it contradicts their preconceived notions
there certainly would have been less of a shit show than what is going on in this thread, most people would have been like "ok sure" and move on, and not attack a bona fide journalist's integrity based on a twitter avatar
the only thing a person with a knack avatar would be (rightfully) accused of is having good taste tbh
What does it actually accomplish though. If the accusations are true more people will come forward. They are literally pouring gasoline over the fire.
They can blacklist and bully small-time journalists all they want but what happens when they're investigated by a national reporter backed up by news conglomerates worth billions of dollars? How are they going to blacklist/bully that? e.g. someone working for CNN doesn't give a fuck if Sony blacklists them.
They can blacklist and bully small-time journalists all they want but what happens when they're investigated by a national reporter backed up by news conglomerates worth billions of dollars? How are they going to blacklist/bully that? e.g. someone working for CNN doesn't give a fuck if Sony blacklists them.
Well said. I'm in publishing myself, and everyone knows Le Monde has an excellent reputation. It wouldn't have published the story unless it was sourced and legitimate. Le Monde aren't in the business of puff pieces in exchange for swag and clicks.
The journalist has nothing to gain but everything to lose if he doesn't do his job properly. There are two sides to every story but the prima facie case is stacked against Cage et al at this (early) point.
Fanboyism isn't rational, it's a base primal tribalism, and that's what we are seeing here.
That's because we're talking about a cult of personality in both cases- around Trump in the former, and around a company that has projected a certain brand and anthropomorphized image in the latter. That kind of tribalism leads to a sense of comfort and stability because of a feeling of belonging at a fundamental level that can be disrupted if it is undermined, which is why the easiest response in case of said undermining is to invalidate it entirely. Hence the year and a half of "FAKE NEWS", and now in this thread.
Ironically, this is also the response we see from members of cults and churches that are subject to exposes.
I am almost sure he says that about the Sony France statement he couldn't get, while a side-media Gameblog had an official response. To stay mute is common for such company when legal stuff are engaged. For now not any Ducky PC or Mediapart journalist wrote something about blacklisting as retaliation.
They are two indpendent ad-less media and a potential blacklist could be annoying for Canard PC because they are specialized in videogames and hardware with a paper edition, while Le Monde is a big rich old beast and Mediapart a pure web-player investigation-focused magazine (they are not testing videogame).
I am 110% confident with both Mediapart and Canard PC revelations as they are well-known medias to produce legalproof papers and never lost in a court, while a bit skeptical about what he said in his tweet, or what it really imply in concrete, if it was just a sub-chief personaly angry about him or whatever.
For now I am just trying to understand where are the state of all legal actions between every parties engaged in the story because in the end its only what counts, and its really messy for now. And the statement of Sony was something really cold for QD like "deal with your own sh** and dont cross the line".
They are two indpendent ad-less media and a potential blacklist could be annoying for Canard PC because they are specialized in videogames and hardware with a paper edition, while Le Monde is a big rich old beast and Mediapart a pure web-player investigation-focused magazine (they are not testing videogame).
I am 110% confident with both Mediapart and Canard PC revelations as they are well-known medias to produce legalproof papers and never lost in a court, while a bit skeptical about what he said in his tweet, or what it really imply in concrete, if it was just a sub-chief personaly angry about him or whatever.
For now I am just trying to understand where are the state of all legal actions between every parties engaged in the story because in the end its only what counts, and its really messy for now. And the statement of Sony was something really cold for QD like "deal with your own sh** and dont cross the line".
This seems like a pretty natural move for Sony. Sony once made music CDs that secretly installed monitoring software on PCs, to prevent music copying.
They make good consoles and games but the higher ups there seems not necessarily very nice guys.
They make good consoles and games but the higher ups there seems not necessarily very nice guys.
That must be it, it cant be that he is doing his job as a journalist and exposing the situation at Quantic Dream
Quantic Dream doesn't have any Sony employees. Even if you were right, which you aren't. Why would a reputable journalist working for one of the world's most reputable publications use his position to exercise, for some unknown motive, a personal vendetta against Sony, via one of their suppliers? Come on.
Absolutely. The Matrix Syndrome, really, if you're comfortable, why bother facing an uncomfortable truth?
Yes, but sadly, the year and a half of screaming "FAKE NEWS" by a certain faction of people has brought us to this point. The damage done by Trump is more insidious, because even if we dismiss his ramblings at face value, inwardly, in a lot of people, a seed of doubt regarding the veracity of most sources has now been planted, even if they are well meaning, well informed people otherwise.
I think you're on to something, clearly he hates Sony. He even has a Mario avatar, so he's basically outed himself as a fanboy.
Yeah I don't even...
Console wars have gone too far.
User has been banned (1w): attempts to derail discussion by discrediting source. History of console warrior posts which might indicate an agenda.
People have ask for proof on twitter and he can't provide any, which means Fake News....Sad
All this thread has taught me is that console warriors will defend absolutely anything that comes between them and their golden console. Sickening.
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People have ask for proof on twitter and he can't provide nothing, which means Fake News....Sad
Bloody hell you were serious
I would ordinarily say "is this satire", but I know enough of you from seeing your other posts over the last few weeks to know that it's not, and...People have ask for proof on twitter and he can't provide nothing, which means Fake News....Sad
You used "fake news" unironically.
How on earth would he prove being blacklisted? Why would he fabricate any of this? He's not some fanboy-blogger for crying out loudPeople have ask for proof on twitter and he can't provide any, which means Fake News....Sad
What in seven hells is going on in this thread? Conspiracy theories about how they journalists are out to get them, really?
No review outlet or journalist gets a message or phone call saying they are blacklisted they have to work it out over a period of time.
From what I have been reading this is one of the largest publications in France so this might end up going places.
No review outlet or journalist gets a message or phone call saying they are blacklisted they have to work it out over a period of time.
From what I have been reading this is one of the largest publications in France so this might end up going places.
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Well, I just want to say. I did my part.People have ask for proof on twitter and he can't provide any, which means Fake News....Sad
Report.
Defending David Cage is not the hill I would die on personally.
People have ask for proof on twitter and he can't provide any, which means Fake News....Sad
You think Sony sent him an email that said: "You are blacklisted" ?
Thats not how things work.
His twitter history is perfectly fine I don't know what you're on about.
