People thirsty for the return of Uncle Dante and Daddy Vergil.
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[LEAK] Massive Devil May Cry 5 Info (Potential heavy spoilers inside!)
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Given that Geoff made an appearance, that seems to indicate a TGA announcement.
But if it's PS4/PC, wouldn't Sony want to reveal it at PSX?
But if it's PS4/PC, wouldn't Sony want to reveal it at PSX?
Was wondering myself. Voicing a new character? Perhaps our new "Lord of Darkness"?
CANT STOP WONT STOP
Even Reuben retweeted it. Would be crazy if Nolan North got casted as someone in DMCV.
Ditto. I think the worst parts of DMC are when it tries to be too serious (ie, Nero yelling "Kyrie" a lot). If DMC5's cutscenes are nothing but silliness and over the top action, I'm all for it. I think it would also be a very nice change of pace for the current gaming climate. We already have a ton of games with super serious storylines with dark themes set after some kind of apocalypse.
We don't know if Sparda is in yet. Leak says "very powerful" character which could be Sparda but who knows really. That part certainly caught my eye.
I don't think Sparda should be playable beyond just massive story set piece section where you play some flashback. But I would definitely like some characterization/voice work on him. I know a lot of fans would be against it since people like his mystique but if this is going to be end of the sons of Sparda... well then they probably have to do it.
I'd be pleasantly surprised if Capcom managed to land Nolan North. While Street Fighter does have the likes of Kyle Hebert, Laura Bailey, & Travis Willingham, I don't think Capcom's landed the likes of Nolan North or Troy Baker outside of Resident Evil in Troy's case.
I'm not knocking the guy, but I feel like JYB has two settings:
1.) Vash
2.) Ichigo
I hated Nero because he sounded like Ichigo.
Please don't make him Ichigo.
Love,
Nichi
I think there's definitely room for some seriousness if it's not being overstated. DMC3 had just enough of it by the time the third act started, because it established some stakes and Dante actually starts to care about his legacy by stopping Arkham from abusing Sparda's power.
I might get burn for this but I think DMC4 pushed to far the goofy and dumb writing. At some point, Dante almost became a parody of himself, there's a fine line between "80's action movie homage" which worked fantastically for RE4 and whatever they were trying with DMC4. I mean I kinda enjoyed it, but scenes like that Shakespeare-like representation and others took the joke too far. They should keep the humour but it will be nice if is a bit less absurd for the sake of being absurd and over the top.
I have to confess I do miss the more horror/gothic feeling of first DMC.
It definitely felt like horror game with badass protagonist at times (RE4 beta shines through).
Could Itsuno even try to recapture that?
Just look at artwork and listen to this OST.
It definitely felt like horror game with badass protagonist at times (RE4 beta shines through).
Could Itsuno even try to recapture that?
Just look at artwork and listen to this OST.
Why would this be a parody?
I mean it's pretty clear that the two canons are on politically opposed? DMC 1 is about a holy superhuman bloodline that ran the world in an enlightened manner (which is monarchism with a healthy dose of fascism), Dante engages in a lot of Wagnerian epic stuff without doing much to change the status quo, and Nero was raised by an order of religious fascists as well as being part of a holy bloodline which gives him specific entitlements.
In DmC, Dante is pretty clearly an anarchist, not afraid to fight cops or Virgil, who ideologically believes being a son of Sparda entitles him to rule over humanity as a kind (monarchism). Mundus is more clearly defined in his motives and goals and unifies capitalism with the demonic state - the definition of fascism, just with a fantasy twist.
I'm not keen on monarchism or fascism to put it bluntly, which is why I struggle with a lot of these tropes and the games that promote them. The same thing happened with Final Fantasy XV and Persona 5 - for all it's failings to treat women and queer people consistently and fairly, the ostensible message of Persona 5 is that the powerful should be held to account whereas the message of FFXV is "fuck it, the gods said this guy is king so I'm going to ride or die for him" which is completely abhorrent to me. I can't switch off this political side of myself when I play games, and I don't want to because I enjoy working out how they fit. It's more interesting this way.
FUCK THE TRACKS, THE HYPE TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES CHO CHO MOTHERFUCKER
I said some similar shit
quoting because I felt that this was an unloved gem that got missed by all
https://www.resetera.com/threads/le...avy-spoilers-inside.8198/page-35#post-1485702
The anime was far from perfect but I like how how Dante seems lonely in it and there is more to his character
Biggest flaw of the anime was being set after DMC1. Dante is basically a god, no enemy is a threat.
The church guys were clearly the villains though even Nero was a reference to that.
Anyways i think your interpretation is intriguing o.O
Who, Dante?
He's not human, he's not a demon, so he can't really claim a side and fit in. Everyone he knows has a high chance of dying unless he steps up to stop it from happening, and that shit tends to carry a price. He wants to not deal with this shit, he's grossly overpowered to fight anything that isn't himself or his brother, and said brother already died by his hand on a bit of a technicality. He's a walking pain ball that has to crack a crass joke at everything just to keep his spirits up, like blowing into your own ship's sails in order to journey across an ocean that's longer, deeper and vastly more dangerous than what anyone else will have to endure.
So, if he's inappropriate, it's his coping mechanism for dealing with shit that nobody else can even fathom.
I see people arguing about story between DMC and DmC and I need to point out that one is super campy gothic action x11 and the other is super hipster meta conspiracy action x11. I think the former is the more fun and relevant to most peoples' needs of the two.
I think what holds 4 back is the pacing is a shitshow, whereas the moments of crazy hypercompetence Leon displays in RE4 are perfectly timed to accentuate the mood of a scene. Crazy action works well when the plot's steaming ahead full tilt, not remixing the first half of the game.
I know this is ever so slightly off topic but was the anime any good?
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The opening theme to the anime should be the series' official theme song, imo
I enjoyed it.
oh, well fuck that, I'm nobody's therapist
I think they both have their place, and if they were to somehow cohesively combine, we'd end up with something quite special
Taking the time to focus on more of what a regular day is like for Dante and provide more context for the world itself the way that the anime did is something that I do believe that a more story-focused DMC could benefit from. The mellow ED for the series was one of the things I liked best about it, too.
It's setup as a monster of the week series until the last two episodes, nothing relevant happens at all except how Trish and Lady first met.
Dante and Vergil are actually very similar when they drop their masks.
Dante tries to mask his insecurities by being cruazhy but gets serious when really pushed.
Vergil tries to mask his playful side who likes to just have fun by being "serious business" but it also cracks when he gets lost in a moment.
They just chose a different method of dealing with their mom beng murdered in front of them.
Nothing outstanding but I enjoyed it. Its basically just Dante doing his daily work as a demon hunter with the episodes being different cases
Yeah, some serious stuff is fine, and well, I fully expect it to contain that. Hopefully they'll be able to execute on it in a good way. The serious parts of the DMC4 story were honestly pretty bad.
I think it's deeper than that. I think it's their methods for dealing with the pain of loss, yes, but I also believe that it's the classic Red Oni / Blue Oni dichotomy. One relies on warmth, whether through hot rage or gentle tender-heartedness, whereas the other relies on cold distance and clinical pragmatism. When pushed, Dante's seriousness causes his scattered heat to focus, whereas Vergil's focus splinters into something far more destructive (and that's saying a lot). They're opposite sides of the coin, but they understand each other on a fundamental level.
That last aspect is something I feel DmC royally fucked up, whereas DMC3 got very, very right.
And for a good reason. Few people cared about Nero and Kyrie's sappy love plot. Whatever was left about the Order creating artificial demons, opening hell gates for kicks and getting possession of Sparda, had all the gravity sucked out as soon as Dante took over.
Honestly, the series would have been godtier had it been 2x longer. The subplot needed more time to be implemented, and more cases would have provided a better, slower avenue for that to realistically build.
Yeah, you could definitely look at it like that too.
Man, DMC is simple at it's core but it does what it needs to very well.
DmC Vergil is a parody of a parody, Donte actually got okay near the end when he mellowed out.
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