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[LEAK] Massive Devil May Cry 5 Info (Potential heavy spoilers inside!)

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Honestly, the series would have been godtier had it been 2x longer. The subplot needed more time to be implemented, and more cases would have provided a better, slower avenue for that to realistically build.
I'd also say that the series didn't do enough to take advantage of some throwbacks and references that would make fans happy.

One of the radio dramas (which used the same JP cast as the anime) actually had Dante whip out Alastor again in a fight against a brainwashed/possessed Lady. That's the kind of stuff the anime REALLY needed to have in order to make for some hype moments.
 
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Honestly, the series would have been godtier had it been 2x longer. The subplot needed more time to be implemented, and more cases would have provided a better, slower avenue for that to realistically build.
Yep. Also could have used the anime to flesh out Lady and Trish by giving each a small story arc
 
Nov 20, 2017
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Yeah, you could definitely look at it like that too.
Man, DMC is simple at it's core but it does what it needs to very well.
DmC Vergil is a parody of a parody, Donte actually got okay near the end when he mellowed out.
Did you play the DLC? It does a pretty good job of pointing him forward in a direction we'll never see the end to
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I have to confess I do miss the more horror/gothic feeling of first DMC.
It definitely felt like horror game with badass protagonist at times (RE4 beta shines through).
Could Itsuno even try to recapture that?
Just look at artwork and listen to this OST.


Menu music in 3 as well fits the gothic theme.
 
Updated the highlights of the thread, list keeps on growing:

1) Massive leak posted by Son of Sparda in the OP.
2) ZhugeEX states that leak was looked over by the mods/admins, allowed to post but on the condition that SoS takes PERMANENT BAN if this is a hoax.
3) Random supposed insider claims it's also coming on Xbox and is willing to take permanent ban for it.
4) Dahbomb posts staggering personal statement spanning 3500 words.
5) Another admin Nibel graces the thread. SweetNicole as well.
6) Claimed second leaker comes in and states that the leak is false. (ShamelessZeroMain) Also claims that DMCV will have microtransactions like DMC4SE. Source is a discord buddy.
7) Son of Sparda calls him out, starting the leaker vs leaker warfare. ShamelessZeroMain bets $1 for every post in the thread, so going $2200 strong right now.
8) SweetNicole announces that ShamelessZeroMain is beholden to the same rules as SoS. If he's wrong then he also gets permabanned.
9) ShamelessZero gets shook, starts backpedaling. More backpedaling. And more. And then some. Admits to drinking and saying stupid shit.
10) Admins ask Shameless to deliver sources, he doesn't comply. ShamelessZeroMain gets banned for trolling and having an alt account. Takes to Twitter to complain that his esports manager got a hold of his Resetera account.
11) People so hype for DMCV they start streaming this thread on youtube as it develops!
12) Sunhilegends delivers godlike gif for DMCV!
13) Gaming news outlet start running the story, it has officially gone big and viral.
14) Geoff Keighley aka the Doritos Pope graces the thread with his presence!
15) Dantelinkx comes in and leaks through a proxy that DMCV will get unveiled at either PSX or TGA. Fanning the flames of the leaker wars!
16) Maximillian D00d (famous youtubers) chimes in on the DMCV hype!
17) Dahbomb makes actual analysis of the leaks.
18) IGN first major gaming website to report on the leak.
19) MBS claims that Vergil being Nero's father is as likely as Trish being Lady's mother....
20) Johnny Bosch makes a tweet about being 5 minutes late... has 5:05 on the clock possibly referring to SOS aka Sons of Sparda.
21) Son of Sparda makes a couple of more leaks: DMCV to be PS4 console exclusive and PC later on. Engine is UE4.
22) Trish VA starts tweeting about DMCV.Trish's Voice Actor tweets about wanting the cast of DMC4SE back for Christmas. Kyrie's voice actor tweets too but could be completely unrelated.
23) Son of Sparda releases information about a location test for an unknown game in Brighton, UK. References games like DMC, Bayonetta, GoW, Zelda, Okami etc. Could be DMCV but don't count on it.
Thanks for this was a great recap.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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70 pages for a fkin leak?

This reminds me of the that MvCI leak thread. Hope DMCV doesnt end up like that tho. Capcom pls.

Tho MHW and RE7 makes me feel like they are willing to splurge more $$$ on Non FG games.
 

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Why would this be a parody?

I mean it's pretty clear that the two canons are on politically opposed? DMC 1 is about a holy superhuman bloodline that ran the world in an enlightened manner (which is monarchism with a healthy dose of fascism), Dante engages in a lot of Wagnerian epic stuff without doing much to change the status quo, and Nero was raised by an order of religious fascists as well as being part of a holy bloodline which gives him specific entitlements.

In DmC, Dante is pretty clearly an anarchist, not afraid to fight cops or Virgil, who ideologically believes being a son of Sparda entitles him to rule over humanity as a kind (monarchism). Mundus is more clearly defined in his motives and goals and unifies capitalism with the demonic state - the definition of fascism, just with a fantasy twist.

I'm not keen on monarchism or fascism to put it bluntly, which is why I struggle with a lot of these tropes and the games that promote them. The same thing happened with Final Fantasy XV and Persona 5 - for all it's failings to treat women and queer people consistently and fairly, the ostensible message of Persona 5 is that the powerful should be held to account whereas the message of FFXV is "fuck it, the gods said this guy is king so I'm going to ride or die for him" which is completely abhorrent to me. I can't switch off this political side of myself when I play games, and I don't want to because I enjoy working out how they fit. It's more interesting this way.
DMC1 isn't about "holy superman bloodline that rules the world". In the mainlines DMC :

- Dante, Vergil and Nero are half humans, half demons, not angels, there's nothing "holy" about their nature. Only Nero was involved in religious matters and he was a rocky member.
- Sparda was a demon and didn't rule the world, Mundus was the demon' ruler and he ruled only on the demon realm. Sparda was a knight.
- Sparda fought the ruler, Mundus, for the sake of the human realm Mundus threatened. Where's the fascism and monarchism in Dante bloodline ?

More importantly can you give me clear exemples of the mainlines DMC promoting monarchism and fascism ?

Are you sure you care about this franchise ? For someone who is so critical and picky when it comes to games he plays, especially for political views, you make a lot of factual mistakes.
 
Nov 15, 2017
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Are you sure you care about this franchise ? For someone who is so critical and picky when it comes to games he plays, especially for political views, you make a lot of factual mistakes.
Interpretation is a thing, doe

Doesn't mean you have to go all "no true Scotsman" on him just because you disagree with his POV

just_saying.flac
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Man, I remember when I came up with my own idea for a DMC5 with Nero retaining the lead role and being more focused on hidden demons in the city. The idea was to be kind of CW/YA novel-come movie in hoping to see it in the big screen. Not that I was the targeted audience, but because shit like that wouldn't have bothered me as much as everyone else. I welcomed hipster gothic demon slaying becoming a big thing next to something like Twilight.

My "reveal trailerb I had visualized in my noggin was Nero walking the streets, hood up in the rain with his arm hidden. His arm starts to radiate, he lifts his sleeve and it's glowing. Many people panic or gasp or run... except for a handful. Nero does his arm yank at one of them and pulls a demon out of the human host. Slices it. Says some shit. And the others transform and attack.

I liked the idea of a few segments like that with some normal worldliness in between the bread and butter DMC gameplay.

Btw, that infamous vampire game kind of took that idea lol.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Capcom, you must release Alex trailer now.
Underrated post.
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In other news, I just remembered this tweet that Jordan Amaro (he works for Nintendo now, but he was working for Capcom before (RE7)) posted last month saying Capcom will have a great year in 2018:
Of course, MHW alone arguably already make 2018 big for them. Then, there's also the "relaunch" of SFV with the arcade edition. But I don't know, I feel like he wouldn't say something like that if there wasn't another big game from Capcom getting released or at the very least announced in 2018. Could be nothing tho.
 
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Oct 31, 2017
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Thats why the old Dante can have "DARK SOUL WITH LIIII~IIGHTT" and "THIS PARTY'S GETTIN CRAZAAYYY" as actual lines of dialogue, and people can still eat it up.

This is also probably why Nero was a bit unpopular when he came out. He's TOO serious. Meanwhile in the same game, Dante is basically a 260lb Looney Toons character
Yeah, hum... The "dark soul with light" scene, I couldn't eat that up. It was very embarrassing, like, I couldn't believe what I just heard :D

I have nothing against cheese and one liners, like what you can find in RE4 but... DMC went too far on that one.

With that said, I did like Dante in both DMC3 and DmC the most, both followed by Nero... I was so mad at the "reverse" second part of DMC4 back then : I wanted more Nero :(
 
Nov 16, 2017
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This one brings so many memories back, the chills.

Imo DMC 1 has the best atmospheric soundtrack in the series.
DMC 1 had it's share of cheese too but it felt more grounded in gothic horror than 3 and 4. The series roots are in survival horror so I'd appreciate Capcom bringing back those vibes.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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If people want the apolitical Ninja Scroll Dante who eats pizza all day and calls a demonic clone of his dead mother "babe" all day back... I don't really feel great about the sexual politics of DMC Classic (because they kind of objectively suck), but I don't feel threatened by Peter Pan Syndrome Dante and his animeness, I'm happy for people to enjoy that game.
I'll take the cringey sexual innuendo that lasts 30 seconds over the juvenile, edgelord psuedo-intellectual tripe we had to deal with throughout the entirety DmC any day.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Spencer gonna be booking his next trip to Japan to prevent this game going exclusive. I'm sure DMC4 SE sales were also used to fund this game, so now XB1 gamers were funding a PS4 exclusive?? The backlash is going to be insane.

As for Nolan as a voice actor in the game, that would be amazing! And the more DMCV takes from DMC1 in terms of atmosphere the better.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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72 pages, damn. Lol at the wars. I think DmC was a solid game and I think it would be more loved if it wasn't called Devil May Cry in the first place. But it was and it had to be compared to the original series and then it unfortunately falls flat.

I know this is ever so slightly off topic but was the anime any good?
It's ok, if you are a DMC fan, you'll probably like it.


This one brings so many memories back, the chills.

Imo DMC 1 has the best atmospheric soundtrack in the series.
God tier track right there. I love DMC.
 

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>I was only 9 years old
>I loved Dante so much, I had all the merchandise and games
>I pray to Dante every night before bed, thanking him for the life I’ve been given
>"Devil May Cry 5 is love" I say; “Devil May Cry 5 is life”
>My dad hears me and calls me a bad name
>I know he was just jealous of my devotion for Dante >
I called him a D rank wanabee
>He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep
>I’m crying now, and my face hurts
>I lay in bed and it’s really cold
>Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me
>It’s Dante!

>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear “This party is about to get crazy.”
>He grabs me with his powerful Devil trigger hands and puts me down onto my hands and knees
>I’m ready
>I open my pizza box for Dante
>He takes the last pizza slice
>It smells so much but I do it for Dante
>I can feel my nose sniffing as my eyes start to water
>He begins to eat
>I want to please uncle Dante
>He quips in a mighty pose as he fills his mouth with the pizza
>My dad walks in
>Dante looks him straight in the eyes and says “Adios Kid!.”
>Dante leaves through my window
>Devil May Cry 5 is love. Devil May Cry 5 is life.

>SSS​
 

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I'm not keen on monarchism or fascism to put it bluntly, which is why I struggle with a lot of these tropes and the games that promote them. The same thing happened with Final Fantasy XV and Persona 5 - for all it's failings to treat women and queer people consistently and fairly, the ostensible message of Persona 5 is that the powerful should be held to account whereas the message of FFXV is "fuck it, the gods said this guy is king so I'm going to ride or die for him" which is completely abhorrent to me. I can't switch off this political side of myself when I play games, and I don't want to because I enjoy working out how they fit. It's more interesting this way.
I'm going to assume that 100% of your narrative for FFXV's treatment of women to be from the opening 3 minutes when you meet Cindy.

Luna's unconditional love for Noctis in FFXV is probably justified as a result of her own unwavering, literally unhealthy sense of purpose.

I would get into your comments on DMC but they are so hilariously off the wall that i honestly don't know why i'm scratching my head at anything else you said lol
 
Nov 16, 2017
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If people want the apolitical Ninja Scroll Dante who eats pizza all day and calls a demonic clone of his dead mother "babe" all day back... I don't really feel great about the sexual politics of DMC Classic (because they kind of objectively suck), but I don't feel threatened by Peter Pan Syndrome Dante and his animeness, I'm happy for people to enjoy that game.
DMC as a series has really always been about pure cheese. It never really feels like it's supposed to be pushing a narrative of any kind. Even the whole religious cult thing in DMC 4 is just kind of there instead of as a social commentary.
So I don't think there's anything to achieve here by discussing the social politics of DMC. It's pretty shallow and I love it. It's just good junk food.
 

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If people want the apolitical Ninja Scroll Dante who eats pizza all day and calls a demonic clone of his dead mother "babe" all day back... I don't really feel great about the sexual politics of DMC Classic (because they kind of objectively suck), but I don't feel threatened by Peter Pan Syndrome Dante and his animeness, I'm happy for people to enjoy that game.
DMC as a series has really always been about pure cheese.

So I don't think there's anything to achieve here by discussing the social politics of DMC. It's pretty shallow and I love it. It's just good junk food.
I like you
 
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