Yeah, the hate & sadness in his voice when he said that gave me hardcore goosebumps.
Not sure this movie will be a template for joker. Mostly because, he kinda already has series, and well comic joker is already really really fucked up. So don't really see what they will take from this. Might be a one off Elseworld thing.it's interesting that some of DC's most successful non-comic stuff tend not to be things taken or adapted from actual comics and just invented/created with the comics as a looseish outline. Like, with the success of this movie is THIS will be the new Joker template in comics, probably. Just like how Harley was invented on the animated series and was so popular she became comics canon. Like, after this are they gonna adapt any comic stories or with Joker?
Wait, i thought video games are the reason. I dont know what to think now.
Trump would be proud of some of the comments here. Good job .
Blame a movie on an attack that didnt happen yet.
And when it happens which it will because ..well....america... you will be here and say:
Seeeeee what did i tell you.
Fuck this
Considering a mass shooting at a Batman movie screening where the culprit claimed he was "the joker" has already happened once before....
Maybe educate yourself:
Considering a mass shooting at a Batman movie screening where the culprit claimed he was "the joker" has already happened once before....
Maybe educate yourself:
Do we think he did this because he was specifically inspired by the Joker's ideology? It seems more likely to me that he called himself the Joker because he decided to target a Batman showing.Considering a mass shooting at a Batman movie screening where the culprit claimed he was "the joker" has already happened once before....
Maybe educate yourself:
I can't believe people making the video game comparisons are serious. The video game panic in the 90s was over campy and schlocky video games that were overtly violent in some instances, but generally detached from reality and never attached to a serious ideology. This movie is very close to real life ideologies that are quite problematic in our society and can be easily seen as glorifying them. Then again, I guess it seems perfect for people who can't understand that nuance.
again. No one is answering this who is concerned about it . Do you suggest we censor / regulate content as to not trigger nutjobs ?
Todd Phillips is not a bad filmmaker. I wish I hadn't seen the text description.. sucks. Oh well, it's on me for even risking coming into the thread.The leaked script and story makes this movie seem really bad imo. The marketing department is doing a fantastic job for a movie made by an awful director tho
You mean the star of the Venice Film fest? Perhaps differing opinions mate.The leaked script and story makes this movie seem really bad imo. The marketing department is doing a fantastic job for a movie made by an awful director tho
again. No one is answering this who is concerned about it . Do you suggest we censor / regulate content as to not trigger nutjobs ?
I can't believe people making the video game comparisons are serious. The video game panic in the 90s was over campy and schlocky video games that were overtly violent in some instances, but generally detached from reality and never attached to a serious ideology. This movie is very close to real life ideologies that are quite problematic in our society and can be easily seen as glorifying them. Then again, I guess it seems perfect for people who can't understand that nuance.
Are you suggesting we censor / regulate content as to not trigger the Nutjobs ?
They should both be called Joker |OT| jokers trick, as that is how our Lord and Savior joka baby would want it.The OT for this movie is going to be absolutely insufferable. We should probably have a separate thread dedicated to the fearmongering.
He didn't want his motives known in quite the same internet-savvy way that other recent shooters did. I think your analysis of the NZ assailant's PewDiePie comment is spot on.I vaguely remember the NZ killer shouted out PewDiePie or whatever his name is during his livestream.
People who are going to commit a mass shooting will latch onto anything that's popular at the time to push their message further.
The only one in recent memory who didn't was the Las Vegas shooter. Maybe that was down to his age?
Couldn't have said better myself. It's pretty sad to see the majority here just handwave this. Of course, we won't know if this movie theme is going to be portrayed well enough until release, but to just deny any kind of concern in this context is just naive.I can't believe people making the video game comparisons are serious. The video game panic in the 90s was over campy and schlocky video games that were overtly violent in some instances, but generally detached from reality and never attached to a serious ideology. This movie is very close to real life ideologies that are quite problematic in our society and can be easily seen as glorifying them. Then again, I guess it seems perfect for people who can't understand that nuance.
Couldn't have said better myself. It's pretty sad to seem the majority here just handwave this. Of course, we won't know if this movie theme is going to be portrayed well enough until release, but to just deny any kind of criticism in this context is just naive.
Do you suggest we censor / regulate content as to not trigger nutjobs ?
Nobody said anything about self censor. But honestly it's pretty out of touch if a movie glorifies and make us feel sympathetic to a mass murderer. What I mean I hope this movie accomplishes on setting the tone and message of disturbing and evil so people who are already on the edge can't use this movie as a acceptance of what they are thinking of doing.Because the notion is writers producers and Hollywood execs should self censor , self regulate and shouldn't tell any story because God forbid it might be taken up as a cause by a nut like V for Vendetta, fight club, taxi driver,
Not the movie's problem that they sell guns like candy in Circusland, specially to crazy people. Blame the system, not the art.I'll be pleasantly surprised if there isn't a mass shooting at a theater, school, or similar that is partially inspired by this. Some young, male loser in Joker makeup shooting up a screening of Frozen 2 wouldn't shock me at all at this point. And no, I'm not advocating censorship.
Fwiw, these festival audiences/critice loved the likes of Green Book too, so I wouldn't say that's a great barometer that this is gonna be automatically great too.
We'll just have to wait and see in a few weeks.
How many mass shootings have occurred in the US that weren't at a cinema or idolizing some fictional character?Alright, he didn't claim he was "the joker". But it doesn't change the fact that the movie (if it does end up glorifying the joker in the way I think they might) might inspire people to commit mass murder, just like how we don't want people talking about the people who commit mass murder for fear that there'll be copycat crimes.
Yikes a rooni on that one, bro.
Not only is it literally BS, but the dude was stockpiling guns and ammo months before the Dark Knight even came out. He knew he was going to do this shit long before he had any full picture of Ledger's Joker.
I can't believe people making the video game comparisons are serious. The video game panic in the 90s was over campy and schlocky video games that were overtly violent in some instances, but generally detached from reality and never attached to a serious ideology. This movie is very close to real life ideologies that are quite problematic in our society and can be easily seen as glorifying them. Then again, I guess it seems perfect for people who can't understand that nuance.