Damn, I guess this is making waves this time. Good for them.
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Leaving Neverland, HBO documentary on Michael Jackson's alleged child sexual assaults, review thread: Currently 94% on Rotten Tomatoes
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Ah come on...it's me! The guy you sorta know via a Bubble Bobble avatar!
i know you from your love of Detroit-style pizza and this:
there have been a lot of long-time posters on this site that have disappointed me recently over the Jackson thing. For a large number of people, for some reason, this is a blind spot for them :-\
i know you from your love of Detroit-style pizza and this:
My reputation precedes me.
I also enjoy sushi, Mystery Science Theater 3000, and Amnesiac is the best Radiohead album.
Seems like a way easier way to get money would be to produce a high-dollar documentary exonerating Jackson, from the way his die hard fans act.
...how much money do you think these people made? Does it outweigh the danger incurred from crazed fans in denial?
Who's getting easy money? The two guys who weren't paid for the doc that features them talking 85% of the time? Oprah? Cool argument.
For those denying the Neverland documentary I have something else to show.
1. Locked up filing cabinet full of nude boys in poses.
2. He sleeps with children, including at the parents house with their permission.
3. His room is fitted with sensors and noise makers that alerts him when people are approaching.
1. Locked up filing cabinet full of nude boys in poses.
2. He sleeps with children, including at the parents house with their permission.
3. His room is fitted with sensors and noise makers that alerts him when people are approaching.
Wade Robson and James Safechuck made $0 from the documentary, as explained in After Neverland, btw. None of their family, nor them themselves, were paid to appear in it. They don't receive any of the profits for the movie, either.
Ah, getting paid zero dollars to confirm what everyone already knew.
The perfect crime.
Well it should be noted Wade Robson set up a website accepting donations
donations go to a charity about sexual abuse
https://www.hawaiicommunityfoundation.org/robsonchildabusehealingandpreventionfund
spoiler spoiler: jackson fans have been trying to discredit already for days, hence the extreme amount of info the above link gives on (non) taxable identity, non-profit status, charitable tax deductions, etc.
https://www.hawaiicommunityfoundation.org/robsonchildabusehealingandpreventionfund
spoiler spoiler: jackson fans have been trying to discredit already for days, hence the extreme amount of info the above link gives on (non) taxable identity, non-profit status, charitable tax deductions, etc.
I apologise if this has been asked already, but is there anyway to watch the documentary for those like myself who don't have HBO?
HBO offers a free 7-day trial of HBO Go that would let you watch it online.
It's being broadcast on free to air TV in Australia over the next two nights. Not sure if it's an edited version or if the Oprah special is also being shown.
With Wade. I feel he's comparmentlising his feeling, So he gives the impression of being more calm (watch people are suing against him, to call him a liar)
I can't speak for others. But i binned him off during the early 90s.
Nah. In here too.
Just finished my watch. Part 1 was hard to listen to.
So I don't believe those moms were ignorant of what was happening. Like, to say they didn't even have an inkling is hard to believe. I think it's likely they were so obsessed with the money and MJ's fame they just cast it aside.
MJ's home was an amusement park for children. He had them sleep with him. Bells in the hallways to detect someone approaching. The neverland employee witnesses. And more people had to be complicit for this to keep happening. I've never done any research into this but the doc seems pretty damning.
Edit - also my man burned THE thriller jacket and glove. I would've sold them no question lol
So I don't believe those moms were ignorant of what was happening. Like, to say they didn't even have an inkling is hard to believe. I think it's likely they were so obsessed with the money and MJ's fame they just cast it aside.
MJ's home was an amusement park for children. He had them sleep with him. Bells in the hallways to detect someone approaching. The neverland employee witnesses. And more people had to be complicit for this to keep happening. I've never done any research into this but the doc seems pretty damning.
Edit - also my man burned THE thriller jacket and glove. I would've sold them no question lol
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Not to mention, "he watches regular porn, he couldn't have been a pedophile"
That's a bit of a frustrating issue that was used to discredit the allegations to some.
BUT ...... BUT.......... THEY'RE IN IT FOR THE MONEY!.
While ignoring the type of porn he watched.
On the bright side, took a long ass time but this is it.
Has amusement park for children in his home.
Sleeps with children on a nightly basis.
Has extra levels of security leading to the rooms in which he sleeps with children.
People ITT: Yeah, he's weird but he makes great music and the witnesses aren't credible. I'm siding with Mike.
Sleeps with children on a nightly basis.
Has extra levels of security leading to the rooms in which he sleeps with children.
People ITT: Yeah, he's weird but he makes great music and the witnesses aren't credible. I'm siding with Mike.
It's because he didn't have a childhood, and was paranoid because of the Paparazzi.
???
The brigade of PROVE IT folks who have since retreated into their respective crevices
Leaves voicemails halfway around the world just for a child.
Has secret hand gestures to show affection when out in public.
Methodically separates the children from their families, while also his staff enables such behavior.
Admits on TV that he sleeps with kids and that everyone should do it.
Deniers wouldn't let their kids sleep with a grown man but apparently his behavior is only "weird."
You forgot:Leaves voicemails halfway around the world just for a child.
Has secret hand gestures to show affection when out in public.
Methodically separates the children from their families, while also his staff enables such behavior.
Admits on TV that he sleeps with kids and that everyone should do it.
Deniers wouldn't let their kids sleep with a grown man but apparently his behavior is only "weird."
"Do you think MJ abused children?"
poof
Yeah. Most people who don't have childhoods sleep with kids in their 40's. I forgot that there's mountains of data to back that up.
But his childhood. He NEEDED to sleep with kids because he didn't get to sleep with kids as a child. /sLeaves voicemails halfway around the world just for a child.
Has secret hand gestures to show affection when out in public.
Methodically separates the children from their families, while also his staff enables such behavior.
Admits on TV that he sleeps with kids and that everyone should do it.
Deniers wouldn't let their kids sleep with a grown man but apparently his behavior is only "weird."
"A jury found him not guilty"
Most people didn't have a Peter Pan complex. 😏
Watched the documentary a second time.
My heart really breaks for Jimmy.
Not that I don't care for Wade and his story, I do. But Jimmy is either an Oscar caliber actor, or he's still carrying a lot of the trauma from his time with Michael. It's clear as day.
This documentary is really a window into how the abused can come to harbor affection for their abusers. These boys loved Michael, even before they met him, and he preyed on that. He nurtured it.
My heart really breaks for Jimmy.
Not that I don't care for Wade and his story, I do. But Jimmy is either an Oscar caliber actor, or he's still carrying a lot of the trauma from his time with Michael. It's clear as day.
This documentary is really a window into how the abused can come to harbor affection for their abusers. These boys loved Michael, even before they met him, and he preyed on that. He nurtured it.
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The way James was describing his relationship with Michael was disturbing and hard to watch when he got into the details.
It's a whole other layer of cruel on top of the sexual abuse. He not only treated these children like lovers, he was an abusive lover on top of that. He threw them away, then brought them back when he needed them, in such callous ways, preying on their love for him. A whole other dimension of fucked up.
I've seen this come up a lot, and while it very well may be true, It's important to recognize that not everybody expresses their emotions in the same way. Wade could very well be hurting as much as Jimmy.
I commend you on sitting through it a second time. I don't think I can do it all over again.
And yeah it's a really fucked up thing to love/like someone who you realized later on betrayed your trust in the worst way possible.
Don't get me wrong; I absolutely believe that Wade's experience with MJ was every bit as real and traumatic as Safechuck's.
It's just hard to watch someone who still so visibly shaken by it.
Oh yeah, no doubt.
For me, I often identified more with Wade in how ghostly/stone faced he was talking about his experiences. But they both shared very similar and relatable stories.
Step one: Come up with a story that will be heavily scrutinized and that you know will trigger a large group of people to attack you.
Step two: Forget to ask for any money when making the documentary.
Step three: ????
Step four: Pure profit, baby.
Easy as pie.
I dont usually do this, but your post history is so fucking predictable
What amazes me are the MJ fans who actually seem afraid of watching the documentary. They refuse to even have their image of the man challenged.
The mental gymnastics that have been accepted by society are mind boggling. We've known this stuff forever, but people are so quick to dismiss things simply because it was MJ.
The mental gymnastics that have been accepted by society are mind boggling. We've known this stuff forever, but people are so quick to dismiss things simply because it was MJ.
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