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Kilrogg

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm all for criticizing Peter Coffin; I used to be a patron, but finally stopped supporting him today after a) this latest Twitter debacle - there is no justifying GamerGate, come on -, b) I grew tired of his terrible writing skills. He just cannot get a point across clearly and concisely. His videos are either tiring or boring as a result.

With regards to the fake girlfriend story specifically, he made one video about the subject some time ago (he mentions the Gawker article). I honestly can't remember it very well, and I can't position myself for or against him on that front, but it might be worth checking that video out to at least hear his side of the story. Beyond that, I really don't care much at this point. You have to trudge through so much incomprehensible drivel to get to his one or two interesting points - mainly, the notion of social capital - that I can't bother anymore.

In other news, Knowing Better is at it again with Christopher Columbus. The tl;dr is that he made a video about CC 2 years ago, in an attempt to bring a nuanced/moderate/neutral view of the guy - yeah, I know, as if CC was a nuanced character lol. Recently, BadEmpanada made a long response to that video, pointing out all the facts KB got wrong, and correcting the historical inaccuracies to show just how much of a piece of shit CC was even judging by the standards of his time - even his peers thought he was too enthusiastic about slave trade lol. KB initially acknowledged the video and linked to it, though he ended up saying he basically didn't want to have anything to do with BadEmpanada from now on.

It should have been left at that. Yet, fast forward to the last couple days, where, for some reason, KB made another video about Columbus where, in my opinion, he very awkwardly tries to address the problems in his initial video. It comes off more as an attempt to justify himself and an inability to just admit he was wrong. BadEmpanada promptly responded with a video where he basically says as much.

Anyway, it's disappointing. KB isn't my favorite YouTuber or anything, but I genuinely like him, and I think he's alright. However, this drama just makes him look like he's still trapped in the liberal/centrist mind prison when it comes to Columbus for whatever reason.
 

caliph95

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Oct 25, 2017
23,534
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I'm all for criticizing Peter Coffin; I used to be a patron, but finally stopped supporting him today after a) this latest Twitter debacle - there is no justifying GamerGate, come on -, b) I grew tired of his terrible writing skills. He just cannot get a point across clearly and concisely. His videos are either tiring or boring as a result.

With regards to the fake girlfriend story specifically, he made one video about the subject some time ago (he mentions the Gawker article). I honestly can't remember it very well, and I can't position myself for or against him on that front, but it might be worth checking that video out to at least hear his side of the story. Beyond that, I really don't care much at this point. You have to trudge through so much incomprehensible drivel to get to his one or two interesting points - mainly, the notion of social capital - that I can't bother anymore.

In other news, Knowing Better is at it again with Christopher Columbus. The tl;dr is that he made a video about CC 2 years ago, in an attempt to bring a nuanced/moderate/neutral view of the guy - yeah, I know, as if CC was a nuanced character lol. Recently, BadEmpanada made a long response to that video, pointing out all the facts KB got wrong, and correcting the historical inaccuracies to show just how much of a piece of shit CC was even judging by the standards of his time - even his peers thought he was too enthusiastic about slave trade lol. KB initially acknowledged the video and linked to it, though he ended up saying he basically didn't want to have anything to do with BadEmpanada from now on.

It should have been left at that. Yet, fast forward to the last couple days, where, for some reason, KB made another video about Columbus where, in my opinion, he very awkwardly tries to address the problems in his initial video. It comes off more as an attempt to justify himself and an inability to just admit he was wrong. BadEmpanada promptly responded with a video where he basically says as much.

Anyway, it's disappointing. KB isn't my favorite YouTuber or anything, but I genuinely like him, and I think he's alright. However, this drama just makes him look like he's still trapped in the liberal/centrist mind prison when it comes to Columbus for whatever reason.
I didn't know the Columbus thing went even further
 

Televator

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Oct 25, 2017
6,167
I was never a patron for Peter but this latest series of tweets definitely makes me wanna unsub him on YT. I did like some of his ideas pf social capital and attention currency.

Now that people remind me of the fake girlfriend thing and rereading that mess... it dawns on me that he might have some kind of chip on his shoulder about “feminism“ that colors his recent twitter takes
 
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Atrophis

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Oct 25, 2017
762
Notts, UK
I'm all for criticizing Peter Coffin; I used to be a patron, but finally stopped supporting him today after a) this latest Twitter debacle - there is no justifying GamerGate, come on -, b) I grew tired of his terrible writing skills. He just cannot get a point across clearly and concisely. His videos are either tiring or boring as a result.
He waffles on and on and you reach the end of the video and don’t have a clue what he was even trying to say. Truth is he’s saying nothing.

Also, BadEmpanada defo deserves more love in this thread.
 

Toxi

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
10,584
I sure am glad "intersectional" has been co-opted to describe fucking GamerGate.
 

Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,407
UK
Peter Coffin was VERY bigoted and edgy in the past, not just that fake girlfriend debacle but also his own podcast a few years ago where he hates independent women and made jokes about autistic kids. He tried to nuke all his old failed comedian stuff and videos and rebranded himself as a leftie Youtuber™ but his true nature of attention seeking (ironic when he goes on and on about attention currency) shows up time to time in how he interacts with others IRL. Also evident in how he enjoys himself some buzzword salad on Twitter and being self-indulgent ("very important docs", overly long videos). He's a grifter.
 

thepotatoman

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Oct 25, 2017
5,708
Denver
Carlos Maza from those Vox videos about Fox News is going independent and starting a patreon, and even the simple announcement/introduction video is pretty entertaining. He describes it as "Contrapoints with no confidence" and "PhilosophyTube with no upper body strength", and it really does kinda seem like it's in that same genre of whatever you'd call it.

 
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yagal

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Oct 25, 2017
1,723
Good I like his videos, hope he brings something new

The top YT recommendation for his video is his guy claiming that he was forced out at Vox harassing people ... I was like WTF? Oh wait there's a Trump-Pence thing in the background of that video
 

yagal

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Oct 25, 2017
1,723
Unrelated: Sorry if I ask here, I don't know what is the proper channel and something is telling me that I will have my answer here...

Why are Skill Up videoes banned on this board? Is he a bad guy? Do I need to unsub?
 
Oct 26, 2017
3,731
I kind of love watching people go on Rubin and realize what an intellectual black hole he is. The no-thought zone I swear to fucking god.
Sam Seder made a good point about how Rubin is sitting across from his supposed idol and is literally struggling to say anything. No wonder King took a phone call during the taping.
 

Messofanego

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Oct 25, 2017
8,407
UK
New ContraPoints video has been up for 8 hours and doesn't appear to have been posted to Era yet. Is her content no longer allowed?

Anyways, I haven't seen it yet but for anyone who's interested:

Ever since the whole Buck Angel scandal, people have been rightly side-eyeing her content. No separate thread for this video should tell you quite a lot.
 

CatDoggo

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Oct 25, 2017
740
I'm personally pretty much done with Condrapoints after how she handled the Buck Angel thing. It soured me pretty hard on Breadtube in general after so many of them decided to circle the wagon and demonize anyone critical toward her decision to include Buck. It's kinda telling that this happened only a month or two after one of the only POC breadtubers I knew of at the time said they were no longer going to consider themselves as part of breadtube because it's too much of a clique that's way too built up around only a few figures and isn't friendly toward the less recognized faces within it.
 

Typhonsentra

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Oct 27, 2017
1,080
And the new Contra has less than 200K views atm ... very low numbers :(
I'm currently at work, will watch later
It is a pretty self-indulgent video but has a few interesting points. She acknowledges towards the end most viewers won't see her coming out as a lesbian as being noteworthy but I mean, yeah.

But hey, if it helps her work through some things then good on her.

Also Renegade Cut needs more love. Hardest working man on Left Tube for the past year.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,954
Rubber City
Watched Contra. It's very personal and I recognized myself in it some. It covers how her life fell apart around the time of Opulence, while she doesn't say it out loud I read it an an explanation of that point in time and doesn't excuse her actions. I'd say give it a chance but I get why you wouldn't.