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Let’s talk about the air dash in Guilty Gear Strive
- Thread starter Carpathia
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Forgot who it was that said it, but I recall reading someone saying that "simplifying" gameplay won't do shit to attract casuals because they'll dump the game in two weeks anyway. Those who stick around are the ones who are going to have to deal with this "simplified" gameplay if they want an active game.
Almost sure you're talking about either Sajam or Max. It has been a popular talking point in a while
And also correct
Double Helix had a GDC presentation in 2019 where they stated that there's never been any actual proof that simplifying mechanics gets people to buy the game.
With tweaks to the timing it could be fine. Seems like after the startup the rest is faster. It's like a curve instead of linear speed.
Also pretty disingenuous to show may in the first post when she has classically had one of shittiest air dashes in the game.
Also pretty disingenuous to show may in the first post when she has classically had one of shittiest air dashes in the game.
This doesn't change what I said, it's too much of an easy read to anti-air and I main Ky who only benefits from this
Couldn't this already be done in previous build with old air dash?
Even though you might be able to do some tricky things with the new air dash I don't like the idea of air dashes being nerfed in mobility.
Well, that's quite the change. Some top players at EVO Japan are getting into a closed beta a little while after the event, right? I'll wait to see what people has to say about the game after more lab time with it, though the panic this brings is funny and painful at the same time, lol *ouch.
You are still not getting into the Strive mindset, anti airs will be nerfed too, especially Ky's :v
You are still not getting into the Strive mindset, anti airs will be nerfed too, especially Ky's :v
yes.
And in xrd you could yrc back hops for instant overheads
Both Sajam and Maximlian have made several videos complaining that "simplifying" fighting games for casuals is bad and a waste but Maximilian has also actually played Strive several times and says it is a lot of fun sooooooooo...
Max said both things in the same video, he finds it fun but it's potential is cut back
The first time Maximilian played Strive at the demo event he talked a bit about his grievances and casualization(dont remember him ever saying anything about "potential") but then when he played it again with the developers he only mentioned the grievances a couple times and said it was "'lots of fun" and "really liked it" a dozen times.
So, he has played it and the more he plays the more he likes it.
Has anyone here played it yet? Anyone? Anyone at all?
We only allowed to voice opinions once we played?
I personally couldnt care less what Max thinks.
So basically, it seems to me that they're trying to remove visual ambiguity from when you can act by giving it a clear start up and speeding up the second half.
From and on paper look it seems like good design. But with the baggage of every other fighter it's obviously pretty different
From and on paper look it seems like good design. But with the baggage of every other fighter it's obviously pretty different
Don't take that as his final opinion. He also had fun playing FighterZ and now he doesn't enjoy it anymore.
Yeah ...so? He doesnt like Street Fighter 5 anymore as well, or Mortal Kombat 11 and he didnt really like Guilty Gear Xrd either.
No one has a "final opinion" on Strive yet. Strive wont be out for almost a year whereas something like Dragon Ball FighterZ has been out for 2 years.
Also IIRC a big reason he drops ANY game he otherwise enjoys is usually bad netcode and/or matchmaking. I know he's complained about DBFZ in this regard.
It's been a while since he even mentioned it though, so I may be mixing it up with something else...
Maybe these changes will be good, maybe not. Regardless these fair complaints are out in the open. Arc has a long time to figure this out right now.
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