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Let's Speculate on Tifa's Design in Final Fantasy VII Remake

Oct 26, 2017
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I’m sorry Op, I’m all for not making Tifa into a porn parody character but this art concept is terrible for her. I’m glad it’s not up to you. That’s like you deliberately wanting to people to get pissed so you can point to them and say “see???? So immature”. This is way too far.
If people get pissed because they give a character pants then yes that person is immature.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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As a woman, I can't help feel special seeing all these people talking about a breasts. Such enthusiasm! lol 🙄😆

Truly, my favorite (and most popular) accessory of mine :p
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I dont mind this one.
This is a weird opinion. It looks like they just made her look like an actual human.
I think that design is pretty human-like. I’m all for making her proportions more realistic and less fuck ridiculous but do not mess too much the the iconic outfit of an iconic game that’s getting remade. This is not a sequel, this ain’t no AC, this is a remake. Do some of you seriously want to give Tifa a jacket and pants for this remake? If Dissidia could pull it off so can this.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Honestly Tifa's portrayal in Dissidia is perfectly fine. If anything is added to her, something like a leather jacket would be pretty cool. I would only want a slight deviation from the original (like Cloud and Barret), not a complete redesign like in AC.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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As a woman, I can't help feel special seeing all these people talking about a breasts. Such enthusiasm! lol 🙄😆

Truly, my favorite (and most popular) accessory of mine :p
Blame SE for this iconic canon cutscene that ended all other cutcenes. I can hear *boing* from here.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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Honestly Tifa's portrayal in Dissidia is perfectly fine. If anything is added to her, something like a leather jacket would be pretty cool. I would only want a slight deviation from the original (like Cloud and Barret), not a complete redesign like in AC.
Well, the portrayal of a character is equally important.

Tifa's assets weren't overblown in Dissidia, but she was the only female character with jiggle physics and panty shots. The game even has a remark about using the camera to zoom in on the goods.

Even if they nail the Remake design, I also worry that they'll retcon her personality to be more submissive, even though she wasn't pressing herself against Cloud throughout the game like so many people misremember.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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There's a difference between "big" and "masturbatory".

One need look at one of the millions of fan-art for an example of the latter. It's unsurprising but still disappointing that so many FF fans are demanding the latter and calling any conceivable compromise "Censorship! Titty Lockhard 4 lyfe!"

It's going to get real ugly come June. Get ready.
Well I wasn't embarrassed to play FF7 in front of anyone. It's just a non issue for me. I wont mind if they're smaller in the remake. It's rarely something that bothers me.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I’m sorry Op, I’m all for not making Tifa into a porn parody character but this art concept is terrible for her. I’m glad it’s not up to you. That’s like you deliberately wanting to people to get pissed so you can point to them and say “see???? So immature”. This is way too far.
I understand not liking that character design, but I don't understand how it's "way too far" or "wanting people to get pissed."

I'd like you to spell out what's offensive about it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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New Jersey
Well, the portrayal of a character is equally important.

Tifa's assets weren't overblown in Dissidia, but she was the only female character with jiggle physics and panty shots. The game even has a remark about using the camera to zoom in on the goods.

Even if they nail the Remake design, I also worry that they'll retcon her personality to be more submissive, even though she wasn't pressing herself against Cloud throughout the game like so many people misremember.
More submissive? They'll probably highlight her feelings more as a more indepth game is want to do, but i doubt they will make her less capable. infact i think they will do the opposite, and change the slap fight to basically have her destroy
 
Oct 27, 2017
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My guess is that they'll keep her original costume and just add detail to it. I really doubt they'll go for the baloon breasts. Like, if I'm remembering properly only the FMV model had really exaggerated breasts. The battle and overworld models aren't that huge. The concept art and original artwork bring out her legs rather than her chest.

I'll never contest that she was made to have sex appeal but I always thought her legs were what they wanted to highlight. At least on the artwork side of things. Clearly she was always supposed to have large-ish breasts, but every subsequent incarnation of her model has been dramatically toned down from the one on the FMV.

I'm positive she'll have the AC costume either as an unlockable or a pre-order bonus.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I am actually more curious about Aeritshtsh's personality. Aerith was a borderline troll pulling on Cloud's strings and I hope they keep that.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Crossdressing Cloud or him getting a massage from several buff men wasn't very funny in 1997 and it certainly wouldn't be funny in 2019.
I agree that they'll need to rethink a lot of the Honeybee Inn (or just axe it), but I think there's plenty of wholesome fun to be had in Cloud crossdressing. It's fun seeing a character out of their comfort zone (in a relatively innocuous way), it's fun seeing Aerith have fun with the whole process, and the "joke" is more that 'hey, Cloud actually makes a kind of hot lady' not 'haha, a man in woman's clothing!'

Honestly in my replays I've been surprised and kind of into how supportive some of the surrounding characters are in that section to the idea of Cloud crossdressing. Everyone is surprisingly neutral/okay with it, which is obviously how it should be, but I didn't expect it from a 1997 JRPG.
 
Nov 11, 2017
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Personally I don't care what she looks like overall. I just like her color palette, design wise, so I hope whatever they go with, it's white top with miniscule if any black, with black bottoms, and red shoes. As long as it's that, I'm content. AC design with a white top and red shoes would be fine with me.

Most importantly- just give me Tifa. I miss her...
She is a forgetable character, in fact, most people only remember her due to her breasts..
What fucking nonsense is this? This is perhaps the most fucking sexist comment I've seen in this entire thread. She's far from "just boobs".
 
Jan 4, 2018
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I feel like this probably is only a first 3D ff problem. The designs in 8, 9, 10, 12 I don't feel had any huge bouncing breast in cutscenes or anything. They'll tone it down but will keep the clothing design.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm rather curious why exactly people think they will alter her design. You know that she's going to stay the same and just look sexier cause of the graphics. There's no way they are going to give her shorts or toned down breasts.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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New Jersey
im also wondering where this idea came from that tifa's boobs got toned down in later versions of her? She always had had a large bust in every incarnation from AC to Dissidia. The difference comes in the exaggerated proportions in that one CGI scene versus more realistic proportions. With that in mind, im not sure why they would change her design in that way.

I would not mind having her have muscle definition as well however...she punches giant monsters, i think its not out of the realm of possibility.

God, if they give her even an iota of extra muscle tone....

These hentai boob fetishists don't realize that giving her muscles would only triple her sexiness.
I think that they do actually
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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I want fit Tifa to carry Aerith at one point in the Remake after she sprained her ankle or something.

"Aerith....are you blushing?"

"........no."
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah I think the slaps will not phase Tifa at all and Tifa will simply slap Scarlet once and bring her out of balance and drop to the ground
There's a comic of this, which I feel illustrates this point pretty clearly

Anyways, I'm in camp that I feel Tifa's design should be modified to some degree. I always felt Tetsuya Nomura's design of Tifa was the result of being given a basic description, such as her being a tough girl who works at a bar, in which case... design wise, I can kinda see. But once we move out of this area, I always felt her continuing to wear the same outfit felt out place, especially once I became older. It's especially out of place when we get to some later cutscenes, including the infamous scene when the Weapons materialize and shoot out of the Lifestream.

I can't really comment about her breast size, since I'm not a woman and this is an area I can't really comfortable give a full opinion on, so I'll keep this brief. I feel a lot of issues probably could be resolved if designs were modified a bit, clothing wise and the like. Specifically once we move out of area where she should be theoretically be wearing more practical clothing. I do know women who have relatively big breasts, and I know the pains and struggles it is in this regards (since I know this can cause back pains, and the few friends I had over the years I met, have commented largely on this), but I do think there's a balance between having them big and practical looking, versus whatever Square did back in the day, especially with that later cutscene I mentioned earlier. So that's really all I can say.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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tifa doesnt need to have big muscles, ff7 is anime, no normal human would use the buster sword.
Of course, no amount of swole would justify being able to lift dragons above her head.

But a little bit of muscle definition would be an improvement, imo. Not Zarya levels, but Korra would be nice. She still has to move and punch a lot, so she should be a LITTLE fit instead of baby arms.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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There's a comic of this, which I feel illustrates this point pretty clearly



Anyways, I'm in camp that I feel Tifa's design should be modified to some degree. I always felt Tetsuya Nomura's design of Tifa was the result of being given a basic description, such as her being a tough girl who works at a bar, in which case... design wise, I can kinda see. But once we move out of this area, I always felt her continuing to wear the same outfit felt out place, especially once I became older. It's especially out of place when we get to some later cutscenes, including the infamous scene when the Weapons materialize and shoot out of the Lifestream.

I can't really comment about her breast size, since I'm not a woman and this is an area I can't really comfortable give a full opinion on, so I'll keep this brief. I feel a lot of issues probably could be resolved if designs were modified a bit, clothing wise and the like. Specifically once we move out of area where she should be theoretically be wearing more practical clothing. I do know women who have relatively big breasts, and I know the pains and struggles it is in this regards (since I know this can cause back pains, and the few friends I had over the years I met, have commented largely on this), but I do think there's a balance between having them big and practical looking, versus whatever Square did back in the day, especially with that later cutscene I mentioned earlier. So that's really all I can say.
The lack of clothes-switching is really a result of budgetary reasons. Same reason Squall goes to bed in his uniform.

Half the characters literally would not be alive crossing the Great Glacier wearing what they do. That's why I hope Remake introduces us to a whole bunch of new outfits (both in-game and DLC).
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I kind of wonder if they'll make her look like Jennifer Connelly or not. Or was that all just alleged stuff about her being Tifa's inspiration?
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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I kind of wonder if they'll make her look like Jennifer Connelly or not. Or was that all just alleged stuff about her being Tifa's inspiration?
Her features always had a Western vibe for me, especially considering where she grew up in during the flashbacks.

They went with an Asian face in AC, I assume to match the mo-cap actress. As for which way they go for Remake, whose to say.

The one character that definitely should look Asian is Yuffie (Kisaragi). Everyone else is open to interpretation I guess.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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First time I heard of this. Do you recall any other details?
This was literally speculated with no actual basis.

I used to think Misato from Evangelion was a big inspiration, especially since

Tifa might also have a scar across her chest due to a traumatic event that also killed her dad

If the Ultimania book is to be believed, Nomura stated that she was created to be a competing love interest for Cloud (Aerith was designed first), thus he based her on his "ideal girlfriend".
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This was literally speculated with no actual basis.

I used to think Misato from Evangelion was a big inspiration, especially since

Tifa might also have a scar across her chest due to a traumatic event that also killed her dad

If the Ultimania book is to be believed, Nomura stated that she was created to be a competing love interest for Cloud (Aerith was designed first), thus he based her on his "ideal girlfriend".
i dont recall it being phrased like that. rather tifa came into the picture after it was decided that Aerith would die and there needed to be a character to keep things going. But of course there are plenty of interviews and translations around so i could be wrong
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I always kinda imagined Tifa to have a slightly southern accent to her. Nothing heavy like, say, X-Men's Rogue, but just enough to be noticable. Given that, having her explicitly look Western would be ideal to me.

That being said, Vincent being anything other than Italian with a noticably Italian accent would be painful lol.
Maybe that's a tiny bit too buff, but something close to this would be lovely.

She's the martial artist of the group. I really hope they make her look like it.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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Advent Children Tifa is pretty much perfect Tifa. Just give her the white tank top and bingo.

I'd even take a design based on the Dissidia art.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I always kinda imagined Tifa to have a slightly southern accent to her. Nothing heavy like, say, X-Men's Rogue, but just enough to be noticable. Given that, having her explicitly look Western would be ideal to me.

That being said, Vincent being anything other than Italian with a noticably Italian accent would be painful lol.

Maybe that's a tiny bit too buff, but something close to this would be lovely.

She's the martial artist of the group. I really hope they make her look like it.
they will probably use the voice actors from advent children/dirge of cerberus with no accent
 
Apr 26, 2018
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I kind of wonder if they'll make her look like Jennifer Connelly or not. Or was that all just alleged stuff about her being Tifa's inspiration?
All I know is that they should go all the way and make Cid just look like The Fugitive-era Harrison Ford, since that's definitely his vibe.