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Let's Speculate on Tifa's Design in Final Fantasy VII Remake
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I've seen this concern multiple times now.
What exactly does that mean?
Yeah, I think some consistent and realistic proportions would do wonders for Tifa.
Her outfit kinda works in Midgar, as a dystopian cyperpunk barmaid, but as soon as shes out in the field she needs a nice pair of shorts and a shirt that fits. Probably a jacket when they get to actual snow.
I think the remake is actually a great opportunity to give everyone some new outfits and several costume changes. Even just a knowing nod to the audience and saying like "What, did you think I was going to leave Midgar looking like this?"
Her outfit kinda works in Midgar, as a dystopian cyperpunk barmaid, but as soon as shes out in the field she needs a nice pair of shorts and a shirt that fits. Probably a jacket when they get to actual snow.
I think the remake is actually a great opportunity to give everyone some new outfits and several costume changes. Even just a knowing nod to the audience and saying like "What, did you think I was going to leave Midgar looking like this?"
It is always weird to me that I didn't really notice Tifa's breasts much as a kid. (My grandma walked in and noticed them right away though :P)
Point being, they've never been central to her look to me. Noticed her long hair, gloves, midriff, basic color scheme, etc. and just sort of didn't think about how big her breasts were. It weirds me about looking at them now and noticing them.
Point being, they've never been central to her look to me. Noticed her long hair, gloves, midriff, basic color scheme, etc. and just sort of didn't think about how big her breasts were. It weirds me about looking at them now and noticing them.
I wonder how the Ultima Weapon fights wil go down?
Cover her up more and make her breasts smaller.
As an avowed jiggle fan, I would have to say that the main issue with the jiggle in FMV's is how poor it looks. It looks fairly close to DOAX2 jiggling, which is the only in game jiggling I've not liked, due to how utterly bad it looks...whereas each boob not only got their own physics, but also gained sentience and tried to escape.
Maybe make it more akin to this (collection of jiggling from Gantz O. Not necessarily NSFW, but don't view it at work)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REn8jFLLYlM
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Well that goes without saying
Yeah I would expect way better physics these days
I really don't like the all black KH/AC look, so I'd much prefer they keep her more faithful to what she looked like back then. That doesn't mean they have to stick with her weird constantly changing boob sizes, they can proportion her differently, but I need something authentic to the OG attire. Same with everyone else, honestly.
I've replayed FFVII several times over the years including within the last two.
Still my favorite video game of all time.
So yeah.
To echo others, I'm a big fan of the AC design, but this is really more important. Considering the recent news that they're leaning towards the original designs, she's gonna be busty with a bunch of skin showing, and that's fine cuz it's true to what the original game was, but they can do way better than the way the FMV scenes in the original game treated her. Unnecessarily pervy camera angles in a story that takes itself mostly seriously is far worse than bad outfits.
Please anything but short hair. Her long hair is one of her few recognizable visuals.
People said the same thing about Bayonetta but look at the awesomeness and praise her Bayo 2 look gets.
I think shorter hair Tifa would be amazing.
I don't know about non-FF7 stuff but even young Tifa had long hair. Was she ever shown with anything short?
I think bayo had a lot more unique aspects that make her standout even if you modify some of them. Tifa is pretty plain all things considered
See, I think even that looks kinda silly. Like her boobs are made out some type of Jell-o.
I guess it's for fanservice-- but it just ends up looking really funny.
I don't think I could handle Tifa with short hair.
It'd be unfair to all the other Final Fantasy ladies to make something that perfect.
It's dated. There are many far better jRPGs, especially from that period. Calling it a classic just rubs me the wrong way.
As for Tifa's design... any design is going to have its detractors, regardless of what they do. Nostalgia's funny that way - it's attempting to recapture something that's impossible.
As long as they animate her in a way that's respectful and don't use the camera to leer in the way some other modern games do, I think I can be happy with the original design (realized in a way that makes her look like a real person and not what certain characters in the latest Kiseki game look like).
I didn't care for everyone being in black either. Especially since AC was weirdly desaturated. I swear the only splash of color in that whole movie was Reno's dumb hair.
I am thinking you will have to fight Emerald in the Sub with the Sub's weapons, or they will force the Weapon and your Sub to surface and you will have to fight from the top of the sub with firearms, rockets, and maybe mounted weaponry?
Honestly, it's gonna be weird. But there is just no way the old style will work here. I'm tempted to say they may skip or replace the non-story Weapons.
I want to play Final Fantasy VII, not Infamous Second Son.
Oh I am laughin' now. Nailed it lol.
Yes to muscle definition.
Edit: Can you imagine if sports bras existed in the world of FFVII's remake? I can see the torches and pitchforks now.
Edit: Can you imagine if sports bras existed in the world of FFVII's remake? I can see the torches and pitchforks now.
I don't know about non-FF7 stuff but even young Tifa had long hair. Was she ever shown with anything short?
A timeskip Tifa with shorter hair would be awesome. I just bet she would look amazing.
And she's not plain at all. She's... iconic on some degree.
We have different tastes. I find the game painfully average. I was excited about it initially, but when I tried to replay it I just couldn't (and at the time, didn't really understand why - took some age to get at that). So I moved on.
Additionally, if I wanted a remake of the game, I'd still want the old graphics rather than the new ones. The new ones make it really apparent how ridiculous the designs are. Or maybe... it's more that they don't capture the comic style of the concept art.
Sports bra? Eff that.
If they ain't flopping, I ain't stopping.
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Ok.
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As for Tifa's model, I'm not expecting a drastic difference from her original design. Maybe as someone mentioned above, some muscle on her as she is a student of martial arts.
Well if they forced the sub to surface, you could just have a silly battle where you're standing on top of it fighting Emerald. As long as I get to ram it once underwater.
Nah these designs are iconic and have stuck around for a reason IMO. It's not like this is are first look at Cloud, Tifa , etc in high quality . We have the Compilation, Dissidia, Smash, etc. People know these characters and like them.
I don't keep up with 7 like I do the others were ppl satisfied with the kh outfit I like it
I prefer this one personally.
I've really seen little explanation as to why people like them though. Most I've talked to just say they do and can't really get much beyond that. Mario and Sonic are iconic... these are... I dunno. Persistent? I think they've lasted as long they have because they're bankable, and much more so than most of Square's more recent designs. People who play RPGs know them... people who don't probably have little or no idea who they are.
yeah they should go off this...
-don't try to change the outfit design to cover up the skin
-don't put more muscle
-don't decrease the breast size (compared to pic above, not the actual original FF7 FMV design)
-dilly dally shilly shally
Realistically I'm less concerned with Tifa's design than I am with the rest of the cast, especially Cait Sith.
(Also, Advent Children came out in 2005/2006 in NA. It's been longer from AC to now than it was from FFVII to AC. At this point, when I think of Tifa, I picture the black zipper vest.)
I mean they're bankable because people like them. As for why? I just think they look cool.
You obviously don't have to agree with me. Taste is subjective. But I think people are attached to these designs.
Wow.
FF7 had iconic characters, great art direction, one of the most famous villain of all time (for reasons), great scenes (Sephiroth in flames, Zack sacrifice, the last battle...), some strong themes that are still relevant today (environment, genes mod...), well-down drama... The game has a LOT of things going for it. I don't even have nostalgia for it since I played it three years ago for the first time.
Hopefully, it's exactly the same as the artwork. There's nothing at all wrong with her design. But there should of course be nothing in the movie like those two ridiculous CG scenes at all,.
Change the outfit. Keep the proportions.
Mainly because the idea that only women with small breasts or hips should be taken seriously is something that is promoted, intentionally or not, too much.
Mainly because the idea that only women with small breasts or hips should be taken seriously is something that is promoted, intentionally or not, too much.
The plot's melodramatic and poorly written, and while I agree some of the scenes have impact the rest of the game is slow and extremely grind heavy (materia leveling), particularly for dealing with the weapons and other side-quests. The themes are given only the shortest shrift and are just there as window dressing for the previously mentioned melodrama. There's no deep discussion about them - certainly nowhere near the level of something as focused as Papers, Please or LSD. Great art direction... I think I've already mentioned how I feel about that (it's passable for 3D at the time but there were definitely better looking games). I'd say Midgar was the tightest point of the game and after exiting that it became... scattered, to say the least.
Anyway - regarding Tifa's design, I agree that the black zipper-vest seems more reasonable, but I doubt that's going to happen - I think fans expect the females to be pretty much the same as their original incarnations (maybe with the ability to change their costumes... microtransactions for extra costumes? who knows).
Out of all of the Final Fantasy games i've replayed and expected to have soured
oddly, Final Fantasy 7 has soured the least
playing it just puts a magnifying glass on the difference between today's RPGs and what made me fall in love with the genre back then
oddly, Final Fantasy 7 has soured the least
playing it just puts a magnifying glass on the difference between today's RPGs and what made me fall in love with the genre back then
If you want to argue that it's not as good as it has been made out to be, that's fine. But to say it's straight up "not very good" is simply wrong. There's a reason it is beloved as it is and there is a reason why people still play it today.
They could ditch the miniskirt. The only reason it didn't look absolutely ridiculous was because the graphics were so simple. Short shorts would be fine.
I played it when I was 12, and played it again as recently as a year or two ago. Keeping its era in mind, I think I enjoyed it more as an adult.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Never noticed as a teenager and seeing this now.. I'm like wtf is going on, damn those are some melons with legs. So weird indeed.
Also a big no to covering her legs, that would be so unrealistic.
That's fine. But you said it as if people are going to be disappointed because they remember it as a good game, when it fact it isn't.
The two problems with that are that a) the remake is going to play very differently, so that isn't a factor and b) you're definitely in a smaller group of people with your opinion. So using that to speak for others is silly.
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