Liam Neeson Good Morning America Interview
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When does his alt-right podcast start? Will it be on patreon?
My bad.
I am of course, horrified to hear it. I always thought Neeson was a great guy, and all the stories I'd heard of him seemed to say that. Nobody ever seemed to have any issue with him. I understand the rage borne of helplessness, but there is no excuse for race hating as a result, there is nothing that can ever excuse that. If it had been say, someone from the other side of the "ussuns" vs "themmuns" divide /r/NorthernIreland is so fond of mentioning and he wanted to kill someone from that side, anyone from that side as a result, would there be as big a reaction? Same skin colour, but also the same arbitrary divisions we decide to accept. I'll bet if he said it was a Traveller and he wanted to kill a Traveller in his place, any Traveller, people in no way would have as strong a reaction as they would to someone from the sides mentioned earlier. Some people would be totally on his side with that, which says an awful lot about us all.
I don't want in any way to lessen what he's admitted to wanting to do, not at all, and I've kinda been afraid to say anything about it given what I've seen in the first thread we've had. I just understand the anger and his need to direct it at the nearest stand in, as awful as that is. That anger and instant drive for revenge is a very human reaction, as awful as it is. There is no excuse for wanting to kill anyone of the same race or people, there is no excuse for the racism. I just understand the anger, is all. And I think Barnes has made some interesting and salient points with regards to what people have been conditioned to see in others because of media and the obvious inherent bias.
I've probably really angered someone now, and I won't say any more.
Jussie Smollet threads: "This is suspicious. No one would go around in the freezing dark and just attack a black dude. Things like that just don't happen. I'm not saying he's lying, but he's lying."
Liam Neeson threads: "He is so brave and has shown so much growth.Uppity Blacks Era needs to stop judging him, anyone would do the same thing in his position and we forgive him."
Liam Neeson threads: "He is so brave and has shown so much growth.
Another day, another scumbag white guy getting interviews and calls for forgiveness.
I don't know why some people just can't admit that the reason they're forgiving is because they also have thoughts about killing random black people.
I don't know why some people just can't admit that the reason they're forgiving is because they also have thoughts about killing random black people.
LOL right. They can't make it any more obvious
Thought I’d just say this, but no, walking around with a weapon looking to murder people was not normal during the Troubles for NI people, that was the paramilitaries that did that, and they were, you know, murderers? The vast majority of people in Northern Ireland would not do that, trauma or not, so please stop using that as an excuse?
Also, clearly racist. It makes no sense to ask if the person was black, at all. It makes no sense to go randomly patrolling to kill someone either. He doesn’t have a defence for this. It’s disgusting.
Also, clearly racist. It makes no sense to ask if the person was black, at all. It makes no sense to go randomly patrolling to kill someone either. He doesn’t have a defence for this. It’s disgusting.
You disagree? Please elaborate on how Liam stans on this particular topic of a desire to murder an innocent black person and ignoring the person that was the victim so that he can be a murdering thug (of which we had a lot of in GB at the time)? During the time of anti Caribbean sentiment for the invitation that the gov't put out for the colonies to help fix the bombed to shit country...... aren't talking directly out of their asses.
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Do you think "black bastard" represents a racial motivation?
Do you think, almost 40 years later, he would have recalled saying "white bastard" if it would have been a white guy?
But do you understand what it is like to be on the other end of those feelings? The problem seems people can understand wanting to lynched but not the feelings of those that still have to endure being lynched for 400+ years. In fact to many it seems alien to be upset that someone exposed their desire to kill someone just because they happened to look like you. Like where is that understanding?
Fuck Liam, and fuck anyone that defends his account of this shit, or is quietly pretending that he didn't say it. All of you.
Oh my god this is incredible
I will say though, "power walking" away racism is probably the whitest thing I've ever heard.
And I've seen some pretty white shit in my life.
If a white friend or acquaintance told this kind of story to me, I would do everything in my power to avoid them going forward. That was some fucking psychotic shit he laid out there even excluding the racial profiling.
^^^^
That one's a bit hard to swallow in this shit sandwich. Should have power walked his ass right off a cliff.
Fuck. I know that I should know better, but I'm so disappointed with white people. And people here. You don't get to miss this bullet. How the fuck you all stay living with evil and being evil adjacent?
The fact that he doesn’t recognize that this was racist is shocking to me. I believe in forgiving people, especially when they admit to their wrongdoings with regret, but this second interview clarifies that he doesn’t see anything racist about targeting someone because of their race. Dude. That’s way over the line of being racist.
It's almost equally aggravating, to me, that a black woman interviewed him and let him weasel his way out. Even considered the reaction to his original commentary being "crucified"
The funniest part of this is how winded Kev got from less than a minute of "power walking." I guess he gave up on working out.
I think people are afraid of the response Liam Neeson is getting, and that's why they're defending him. If he gets a backlash over having bad thoughts about black people, what does it mean for my uncle/my parents/my sister/me?
We aren't programmed to think of ourselves as irredeemable, and when confronted about everyday racism it tends to lead to a really nasty cognitive dissonance. "Liam Neeson has to be right, otherwise I'm also in the wrong, which isn't possible!"
We aren't programmed to think of ourselves as irredeemable, and when confronted about everyday racism it tends to lead to a really nasty cognitive dissonance. "Liam Neeson has to be right, otherwise I'm also in the wrong, which isn't possible!"
Yep I came to this realization long ago, "if this is bad then it means the uncle that forwards those racist obama chain letters might be bad".
Imagine being part of a race that on multiple continents and for centuries has spent existence under the oppressive foot of another. Imagine being used as cattle to build the civilization of that other race all the while being beaten, raped, tortured and killed for the pleasure of that other race. Imagine at the "end" of it, being freed into a society that hasn't actually changed but still uses and abuses your people. For centuries, families have been divided, lives have been lost and your culture and history stripped away for the purposes of being less than a pack animal. Imagine for all that time after fighting for your right for equality as a human being and that very notion being so threatening that from the street to the political arena, that oppressive race used every ounce of its power to deter progress and destroy your people. Imagine how many of your people fought and died for opportunities and rights that you still aren't afforded or are only allowed on paper. Imagine watching the people who are supposed to protect the public lie and villianize your people (people who look like your mother or brother or father) to justify killing you because of a false narrative of your people being violent savages that has been perpetuated since before your country existed. Imagine realizing that after centuries of disenfranchisement and abuse someone form that oppressive race tells you that they sought to use innocent members of your people as scapegoats to assault for the sake of misplaced rage. Then imagine someone saying that they don't understand why someone from that very oppressive race wanting to hunt your people down to satisfy their own pathetic urge for vengeance is more understandable than your anger at your perpetual abuse. You say that a desire for vengeance is a human reaction. But you don't seem to think the anger at being treated like animals is reasonable in kind. Are we not allowed that reaction? Are we not allowed those emotions if Neeson is allowed his violent anger? Our rage a is rage borne of helplessness and trauma and abuse, no? To anyone in this topic who doesn't see that, you probably have a lot more to reflect on in regards to what you actually understand about white supremacy, anti-blackness and racism as a whole.
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Nothing a little power walk won't set right. Cure racism and burn some mean calories.
There was a thread a few months ago asking if Michael Scott from the office was racist. Really hilarious seeing people excuse Michael because of this exact reason.
in this thread as well as the previous thread, many many posters have discussed how they have felt a similar kind of anger and how everyone has or they aren't a real person and aren't truly living.
you're absolutely fucking right.
as a black male, i cannot ever get that angry. or at least, i cannot ever show it. my life depends on it.
close your eyes and imagine how fast the cops would get called on an angry black male walking around with any kind of blunt object vs the exact same actions with a white male.
you're right that it's not really living, but it's what keeps me alive.
the door's this way right? yeah.
face out.
you're absolutely fucking right.
as a black male, i cannot ever get that angry. or at least, i cannot ever show it. my life depends on it.
close your eyes and imagine how fast the cops would get called on an angry black male walking around with any kind of blunt object vs the exact same actions with a white male.
you're right that it's not really living, but it's what keeps me alive.
the door's this way right? yeah.
face out.
You're right, but fuck them too.
We are not the action for your personal crisis, Your reason to get up in the morning with hate in your head, nor nationalism, nor are we scapegoats for your unforced errors and fuck ups. (not directed at you btw).
I wonder if Liam even learned if this actually happened the way it spilled from a white woman's lips given that there were not any black people in racist ass Ireland at the time.
I mean.. considering the shit he freely admitted to in an interview for his movie I'm willing to bet there's a lot of shit he left out in terms of how race played a factor in his hatred.
Isn't it telling that.. what he was able to recall, almost four decades later wasn't.. how tall was he? Did he have facial hair? Was he big or small?
He instead specifically recalled the term "black bastard".
Aren't we being pretty hard on a guy for admitting in his ORIGINAL interview that his feelings were primal and yet full of shame and regret as years have gone by? And how revenge leads to more revenge and it gave him an opportunity to really examine how he deals with his emotions? I'm not paraphrasing, its all there.
I'd be more receptive to you guys if this was a second or third interview and he was trying to double back. But that doesn't seem to be the case here.
I'd be more receptive to you guys if this was a second or third interview and he was trying to double back. But that doesn't seem to be the case here.
He doesn't address any of the racial component. All he says is "I'm not a racist". Nothing about using "black bastard" to describe his target.
"I'm not thing" is not a conversation or recognition.
He won’t admit that he was being racist, and has doubled down. He hasn’t show that he truly understands the depths of his actions
If you think there is no racial component to his reaction you need to read his words again.
Have all of the "Why do you Americans always talk about race? We don't even see race" Europeans left the forum, or are they just laying low?
How are we being hard on him? How exactly is he suffering from our anger? And what exactly has he done to be a better person beyond deciding not to kill innocent people? He's treated his anger but has he actually treated his racism? He says he isn't racist but that isn't really convincing when he himself admitted that his baseline form of empathy was to not slaughter a black person. It should be good enough for him that he got his story out but he's not entitled to being treated like an ally.
Shit like this is how you end up with racially motivated attacks like Balbir Singh Sodhi. Or fucking Dylann Roof. Or hell, even Jessie Smollett from last week. It's a racially motivated crime that, could have had a lot worse of an outcome than it did. Misguided anger coupled with prejudiced thinking is a dangerous combination. No matter how angry you are, to desire random act of murder is fucking psychotic and unjustifiable. It's tribalism. They hurt one of mine, so I'm going to hurt one of theirs. It isn't "I'm going to kill a man" (while not much better) it's "I'm going to kill a black man". It's specific, it's targeted, and it's a total fucked up line of thinking
And to the people who play it off as "it was passion/anger/hate" that could happen to anyone, that handwaves it way too easy. It almost feels like people are understanding of wanting to beat down a totally unrelated person. It'd be even more understanding that if he said he wanted to kill her rapist, but nope. Just any black guy. Random act of murder isn't a fucking passion killing, it's slaughter. Especially if it's targeted to a degree and fortunately in this case it didn't end up there. But not every story has an ending like this, some people want to go out and find an excuse to kill whatever the justification is in their head and find it
This shit happens, and there's so much wrong with it. Starting from the racial aspect, to the "holy fuck dude that's not the way to handle unbridled anger" aspect.
And to the people who play it off as "it was passion/anger/hate" that could happen to anyone, that handwaves it way too easy. It almost feels like people are understanding of wanting to beat down a totally unrelated person. It'd be even more understanding that if he said he wanted to kill her rapist, but nope. Just any black guy. Random act of murder isn't a fucking passion killing, it's slaughter. Especially if it's targeted to a degree and fortunately in this case it didn't end up there. But not every story has an ending like this, some people want to go out and find an excuse to kill whatever the justification is in their head and find it
This shit happens, and there's so much wrong with it. Starting from the racial aspect, to the "holy fuck dude that's not the way to handle unbridled anger" aspect.
I grew up in the age of IRA bombing the shit out of market places that my mother and aunts would frequent (rarely at the same time cos shit could go sideways) just so we could eat.
I understand the mentality of someone looking to just end someone else. Anyone else. It's always been cowardly and absolutely repugnant.
I'm just recognizing the fact that since Trump is in office, we have people spew hate and bigotry on the national stage and it has become some what acceptable.
And here we have a 66 year old IRSH male, admitting shame to a thought he had when his friend got hurt, and who also has worked himself into the ground since his wife died. I mean we have people on this forum that don't talk to family members anymore because they hold certain views. This elderly guy is admitting shame in his original interview. And when I say elderly, is that they usually die holding their view points without changing.
Except you're dismissing the fact that he's not addressing any racial component in his actions, aside from throwing out an empty "I'm not racist".
He needs to, at a minimum, address his "black bastard" comment instead of getting softballs thrown to him from Good Morning America.
What's funny is that people probably think he's some super hero from his revenge films. I'd kneecap that lanky racist fuck before he got to make threats.