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Limited Run Games "overjoyed" to partner with THQ Nordic
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Listen I get that you guys aren't the biggest and that Red Faction is a huge get but it feels pretty shitty to be supporting this company. You are now gonna have your name associated to their brand. Its not a great look.
You have to admit those are pretty non-standard circumstances.
Considering recent threads have been about THQ seeing higher than expected earnings, selling mad games on the Epic game store, and developing like 80 games, this doesn't seem to be particularly effective.
Yet if I posted a story just as such here, I would be chastised for NOT standing my ground by at least multiple users regardless. People don't look at the whole picture and just love jumping to rash conclusions because well, they want to be pissed off. LRG wasn't going to come out and post FUCK THQ on their Twitter, it was just a generic 'thanks for the money' social media thing. I think i'd be annoyed by basically any publisher partnering with THQ at this point, aside something as tiny as LRG, because I get it, you're just trying to make it. It's not good, but it's life sometimes.
Cool, that shouldn't be difficult, since their lineup isn't that appealing and there's a plethora of better content available from publishers who don't hold AMA sessions on platforms hosted by Nazis and pedophiles. And, quite frankly, I'm a little tired of the risible idea that these people have no other choice but to work with fascists to save their companies and/or jobs. That's a crock of shit peddled by fascist apologists. They can find work elsewhere and go to bed knowing they didn't help normalize the rise of fascism.
I'm sure if you explained your specific situation, you'd get much more sympathetic responses.
Also, the wording was pretty unfortunate for a "thanks for your contract" tweet, but YMMV.
Business is business. You really think they care even if it's morally wrong to partner with THQ?! That's the sad truth of this world.
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It wasn't good wording, but they also don't exactly have a public relations team either, you know? I personally don't see the issue if someone decides to not buy LRG titles due to this, but to try and smear the whole company over it just feels extreme in this instance. Their entire 'company' probably post here and are perfectly nice, not evil people.
It generally seems like it very much is not effective. If anything, it just Streisand-effects them and gets their name and product line out there for free.
But there are people who say things like this:
And, I mean, how do you respond to that? I could simply point out that that's literally how business everywhere on the planet works. But it'd go in one ear and out the other.
Really? That's your reaction to the company that cozies up to pedos? Okay.
Disappointed in y'all. Was definitely looking to grab Transistor and Freedom Planet as physicals but not anymore.
Hopefully you guys can reconsider in the future. Til then, you've lost a customer.
Sure, but shouldn't we let them know we expected better from them? Help them keep being nice?
It's just that I wished they wouldn't be so tone deaf.
Other companies are on the Pro LGBT train so why are game companies so backwards?
LimitedRunGames , sorry to say this but considering THQN has not yet properly addressed (read: barely acknowleding it even happened) the AMA stuff, this whole "we don't endorse them" line means nothing. It's the easiest line to draw in the sand.
You acknowledge their actions, and work with them regardless.
You acknowledge their actions, and work with them regardless.
If the intent was to express disappointment and not create a witch hunt and demand for blood, sure. People here have the right idea, hit them in their wallet, I just think this particular instance should be navigated a bit better than a blanket 'they're all evil' considering their size as a company.
There's no way that's happening! Why would Nintendo suddenly drop Mother 3 in the West?
Because being on the pro LGBT train doesn't really mean anything, and I'm sure if you asked every employee of LRG, they'd probably enthusastically be very supportive of LGBT rights and representation.
Google, Microsoft, and Amazon are pro LGBT, and they're still paying criminally low taxes using every loophole available. But hey, at least they like the gays!
Or how about this picture:
I'm sure every one of those folks is a decent human being that loves their kids, considers their words, and pets stray dogs. Nestle also tries to rape indigenous lands of water sources, fucked over new mothers in developing nations, etc. But hey, at least they love the gays!
I used to bring this point up in threads, and I just got shouted down at best, and accused of being a member of these idiotic 8chan-style groups at worst, so I just stopped making the point, but hey, fuck it- if you use a car, any form of electronic device including video game consoles and phones, or have ever bought produce sourced from South America (in the US, you likely have), you're supporting evil. It's part of living in a society. Accusing LRG of supporting pedophilia because they're publishing a twenty year old game for a much larger publisher and probably going to experience a great deal of growth and success as a result just feels like a reason to dunk on a small business doing what they can to be successful at something they're passionate about.
Also I'm not sure what you mean when you say "Other companies are on the Pro LGBT train so why are game companies so backwards?"
What metric are you using here? The few B-tier and indie publishers that have these disastrous PR stunts? How about all the major publishers and platform holders and developers turning their avatars into pride-themed rainbows and wearing pins at E3, the industry's biggest show? Game companies aren't backwards. Stop it with this.
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I think a lot of it comes from a point of economical privilege. They see "company" and think of skyscrapers and billionaire CEOs, when LRG is nowhere near that kinda size yet.
It's starting to come off as the kind of people that try to "own" smartphone users with the working conditions of the manufacturers in China.
Capitalists who think there is ethical consuption under this system are laughable.
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Super Rare Games I think. They did Snake Pass and QUBE 2 and those are great indie physical copies.
I think they are more popular in Europe?
Personally I think this response is fine and bluntly more than I expected. Odds are LRG signed a deal with THQ before the AMA and part of any deal like this is not to disparage business partners publicly. If they did then other companies wouldn't want to work with them. I get that half this board is expecting LRG to basically burn whatever contract they have in a fire but that could essentially kill them as a company.
Also if we want to use 2 degrees to decide who to boycott then aren't we essentially all guilty as consumers? I am fine with boycotting THQ for supporting 8Chan but boycotting LRG for working with THQ for supporting 8Chan feels like a bridge too far. By the same logic everyone here shouldn't own smartphones or computers.
Edit: As far as I am aware we have no idea if they signed their contract with THQ before or after that AMA. If it was actually a decent amount of time after the AMA then the apology rings hollow, if it was before then it's a different story.
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Is there an employee count in your mind where they should know not to do a deal with THQ Nordic in the aftermath of that company doing an AMA on a forum known for child pornography?
I know they're a small company. But at some point, the bill comes due with all of the problems they keep having for being a small company. No returns/cancellations. Spotty communication. Their site messing up when people are trying to buy a game during a very limited 60 second window (which wouldn't be so bad if they limited things to 1 game per person, but they can't do that because collectors have to have two versions of the same game). The ending of their holding system. Etc.
They post on this forum, they did (do?) on the old one, and that's great, and should be encouraged. But issues like this and the others shouldn't be continually hand-waived just because their small (and, let's be honest, it's because they're one of the only games in town, which means if they stop, the small limited physical game market stops).
People can and should voice their concern with them for doing this deal if it bothers them. They can choose to not buy that game, or future games, or be more selective. And others have the right to keep buying every game they like, or completing their collections, regardless of what the other group might think of them.
It's irresponsible for anyone to partner with THQ after their dog whistle to gamergate, really gross and troubling to lean so far as to describe themselves as "overjoyed" at the partnership.
Buuuut you still signed a deal after that shitshow.
Ignorance can't be used as an excuse.
Judging by some responses in this thread, you can see how things could end up like this.
A corporation did a PR ad on a site that hosts child pornography and y'all on that "yet you participate in society, aren't you a hypocrite" schtick
A corporation did a PR ad on a site that hosts child pornography and y'all on that "yet you participate in society, aren't you a hypocrite" schtick
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That's a simplistic way of reviewing corporate decisions.
Empty words. If you signed this deal with them AFTER the AMA, you absolutely ARE endorsing their actions.
This is PR speak for please ignore the bad thing we are doing. We stand to make a lot of money from this. Please enjoy the game (also by the repugnant company)
Considering the timing of this, and how slow I know the wheels can turn on these kinds of deals, I can give the benefit of the doubt that the deal was set in stone before the AMA took place, but I'm definitely not going to give LRG a pass if this turns out to be the first of many efforts to collab with THQN. I love the dedication to physical media LRG provides, and have spoken with at least one rep in person a few times about the joy of classic games, but THQN is always going to be a problem.
Why would they? Nintendo, Sony, Valve, Epic, GOG, and Microsoft publish THQN games. Why is only LRG being chastised?
I was just typing this reply before I refreshed and say yours. If this is enough to boycotted LRG, then the big 3 platform holders need to be boycotted for giving THQN games a platform way bigger than LRG is giving.
Why on earth would you come in here to insist you want to have your cake and eat it too?
Fuck off with this wishy washy bullshit
Not only that. Even if LRG refused a deal with THQN, what would change? Any other similar company would take it instead.
If there was any hope of THQN to make amends it would have happened if the big 3 threatened to cut them off.
Uh oh. With that many outlets certainly there's a 6 degrees of separation type dealio and we have to give up on video games?
Let's not forgot retail partners like Target, Best Buy, and Amazon. Are we boycotting them too?
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