It's so cute omg, it looks like kids show from the 60-70s made with paper and puppets.
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Link's Awakening (Switch) E3 demo frame-rate is "choppy"
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It's so cute omg, it looks like kids show from the 60-70s made with paper and puppets.
Might as well close the forum if people can't discuss about stuff we're seeing without somehow other users getting their panties in a twist. Holy shit people, it's not like users are throwing rocks at Nintendo here.
Absolutely. I just felt that the assumption "It's Nintendo, it won't launch like this" needs a bit of context and qualification.
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Maybe not worth discussing, but it is important for those covering the game to point it out and document it.
I wanna say I saw some other people note this, but... Trade Show builds (demos, etc.) are often from older builds of the game, rather than reflective of where the main game is. They often branch off, and then work and prep a demo based off of current code that was from the branch at the time. This, unfortunately can result of various issues that are present in the demo builds, but have since long been fixed in the main branch. But yeah, demo builds and the like can be months behind where the current branch is.
But yeah, that's atypical par for the course for any trade show showings of games. I'll admit I was surprised Nintendo was okay showing the new dungeon system on stream and continued to show it despite the borked lighting going on there, but I suppose you can't always account for bugs to crop up on live demonstrations.
(And don't worry, this isn't to handwave concern. They are legit concerns. Just wanted to maybe give some people a little more comfort about these issues they were noticing.)
But yeah, that's atypical par for the course for any trade show showings of games. I'll admit I was surprised Nintendo was okay showing the new dungeon system on stream and continued to show it despite the borked lighting going on there, but I suppose you can't always account for bugs to crop up on live demonstrations.
(And don't worry, this isn't to handwave concern. They are legit concerns. Just wanted to maybe give some people a little more comfort about these issues they were noticing.)
The Irony is post like that are usually more frequent and annoying then actual bad posts lol.
Yeah, I'm a bit worried. I'm sure it'll be optimized quite well by release...but I'm still worried. I'm super excited for this game and want it to be perfect.
Optimization is often one of the last things a developer does. You need to know your overall render budget to understand where you can cut, hide or fix performance hogs. I wouldn't wig out about this, this is why it's a demo and not a thing in a box yet
seems a little malicious to report on this as it's literally a prerelease build of a game that's a bit further out
It seems like the game targets 60 FPS indoors, and 30 FPS on the overworld.
It appears to be using double-buffered V-Sync though, which means that if it drops frames it will drop from 60 to 30 in dungeons, or 30 to 20 on the overworld.
I was scanning through the demo, and here's an example where you can see that some rooms run at 60 but others run at 30:
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yes, thats one case. splatoon, odyssey and many others are smooth and close to perfect at launch.
BotW was cross gen and they ended with a game that runs mostly smoothly.
Bruh the last Zelda game was anything but smooth at launch. Could not hold 30fps on Switch.
This game is actually not out yet OP. Comes out September so your information will more than likely be incorrect by the time of release.
Okay I didn't watch the full demo yesterday but I thought I noticed this too. When she was cutting grass at one point it went real choppy.
BotW had to get post launch patches to get better performance. They ported it to Switch without optimizing it, and even then it had better performance than the Wii U version, which was optimized on the Wii U.
We're also talking about a top down Zelda compared to sprawling open world with hundreds of things on screen.
Whilst I do agree with the general sentiment regarding not moaning about frame rate on a demo... the game is out in 3 months, and Nintendo take around 2 months to get the game gold, onto carts, packaged and distributed globally out of Japan... so yea, I don't think the concern is as unwarranted as some are making out. That said, optimising a finished game for 4 weeks by an experienced development team doesn't sound too crazy either. We will have to see - I expect it to be flawless upon release though.
Probably almost all of them. Every time we get "jeez this looks awful", and then at release "what the heck it looks good now ?!"
Back on topic, Ash from GameXplain reported on that too, and his followers yelled at him, like what the fuck. Dude is reporting what he saw, but they were "who care, it's going to be good anyway !", poor Ash.
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I hate the fact they target 30fps on the overworld. It should be locked 60 everywhere. This is not a game like BotW.
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Are you serious with this take?
Wait a minute, does it drop from 30-20fps as well? Thank you for sharing this info.
Read the OP or my subsequent comments.
I think so. Pre-release feedback is important. I'm sure Nintendo is well aware of the framerate issues, but the more it's pointed out, the greater chance they'll focus on performance optimization prior to launch.
I'm quite happy this thread was made and I hope more forums and outlets point it out.
Thanks for this information.
My hopes are now for 60FPS on release! Sure it will be if that's what they are targeting.
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Around 05:25 you can see it drop to ~20 FPS briefly.
I expect that it will be locked to 30 on the overworld by the time of release, and 60 indoors.
Nah, this is crap. Document it, really?
"Twas June 11, 2019 when I saw it. The most disturbing of drops".
I mean, c'mon. It's a game in the middle of being made and people want it known to all that it is a bit choppy.
I kinda look at Nintendo EPD differently than I do MonolithSoft. Plus, I don't think Link's Awakening is being rushed to meet the market, or else it wouldn't be a September release when they seem to have a big empty space in their December schedule.
It's not just drops - indoor in that part of the clip runs at 60fps (with drops) outdoors looks like 30fps (also not completely stable, not sure if it's running unlocked).
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Yep, just saw the video. Good thing is the drop was rather brief. Hope it's ironed out before launch.
I think you're taking "document" too literally. People just mean it should be pointed out in previews and hands-on impressions.
This is the game I'm most excited for this year! Can't say I'm at all worried about this at the moment, plenty of time for it to be sorted.
Like Breath of the Wild, especially on Woo U? :p
But yeah it should be possible with those graphics in Links Awakening. It looks way less demanding.
