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Link's Awakening (Switch) E3 demo frame-rate is "choppy"
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As it should, but maybe closer to release day. Its not like these guys dont know what they're doing.
This is bordering on the lazy dev argument. "If we dont point it out, they wont bother fixing it"
Yes, great comparison, two very similar games technologically. Games release with issues, again, news at 11. Let's talk about them when they're out, not when they're being shown at a trade show.
Again, it's also a far more demanding game with hundreds of things on screen. BotW could sacrifice everything like XCX did to maintain very stable framerate for a vast open world, but that also means cutting a ton of visuals.
Yes, one of the past criticisms of games journalism (and I'm far from a 'games journalism doomsayer') is that their preview coverage was too glowing and pr-like for games that ended up being terrible. They need to report things as they see them, for us, the consumers. Your favorite game will survive unscathed if the finished product turns out well.
It's also a great resource for game historians, to be able to document the journey a game took from development to finished product. Unfortunately, we don't have enough of this info on earlier games that were previewed to the press (at CES, etc).
I'm not sure what you see as the drawbacks to reporting this information, I'd be interested to hear your perspective! But I'm willing to drop it as I didn't think it would upset you so!
This game releases in 3 months. There are like 2 months of dev time left. Do you expect them to have another showing of this game before that?
Correct which is why I expect Zelda LA to run perfectly at 60 and not BotW.
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Are you kidding me?
Writers and users should point these things out in hands-on/previews, because that's what you do when you write about a video game. Do you want previews to contain nothing but fluff? It has nothing to do with "lazy devs", Jesus Christ.
You're going to have to blame the art direction, lighting, etc., they took for LA and why it's running at 30fps on the overworld and 60fps indoors. Kirby Star Allies ran at 30fps for the same reasons.
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Pointing out the current state of a game as it's beinf showcased being equates to "fear mongering". Is this real?
Jesus Christ the inability of some people to deal with a remotely critical thing being said about a game or company they like is really fucking pathetic.
Jesus Christ the inability of some people to deal with a remotely critical thing being said about a game or company they like is really fucking pathetic.
Game development no longer stops to account for pressing discs or burning silicon. If Nintendo thinks its necessary, they'll go right up to launch and beyond, just like most teams do these days. We're in the era of Day 1 patches, constant updates, games as a service, etc. Even movies are working on VFX up until right before release, sometimes hours (!), since it's just a digital upload.
Yes, I'm clearly the person who was in the wrong here and the intentions here were 100% pure. Literally every game on the E3 show floor has issues. Those issues are worthy of discussion? Games aren't magic.
Definitely exaggerating, but it's still a pointless thread saying unfinished game is unfinished. Weird is all
Constructive criticism is fine. There is nothing wrong with that, but just look at Witcher 3 switch threads. Yeah they are mostly good criticism, right?
It was said in this very thread and you even quoted and agreed with it lmao. Yep, it really is dumb.
That's gonna be a no buy from me if they dont fix it. I have faith they will despite numerous recent Pokemon games having bad framerate issues and Mario Kart 8 on Wii U having an incredibly annoying frame pacing bug that never got fixed until it released on Switch.
Not all "unfinished" games are in the same state. This is informational. Pointing out the frame rate is currently not optimal is not "pointless", at least not any more pointless than like 90% of the shit that leads to era threads. Maybe it gets fixed by release, maybe it doesn't. But the need for so many people to play unpaid PR and try to silence the mere existence of what is ultimately a harmless thread is pathetic.
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Come on. Do you really not know that this demo is outdated? It's probably several months old at this point. This is how demos are done. IT's not a current build. There are way more than 2 months of dev time left from the gameplay you're seeing.
You said it.
How old is this build btw?
I think everyone is aware that this game isn't finished, and hopefully will get cleaned up in time for launch. That doesn't make discussion of it pointless, or any less valid than discussion of any other pre-release game. This is the kind of stuff you want to be made aware of coming out of a preview event. Handwaving it away as "well, of course they'll fix it!" is weird; it comes off as unnecessary damage control.
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That's not my quote and I agree with them. I called your "lazy dev" post dumb.
Sorry, got the quotes mixed up, you just agreed with it. The lazy dev post was literally based on that quote you agreed with.
If we dont point it out, they wont fix it!!!! Please. This isnt Studio Wildcard.
Why are people acting like this is unreasonable to report. Basically pre-release coverage like this is the entire reason for E3. Also it may convince people to hold off on a pre-order and see what the final version ultimately looks like. This isn't a personal attack against Nintendo and it's devs like some of yall are acting like it is.
You don't think they want feedback on the games they're demoing?
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I agree. Days Gone was really choppy before launch, feedback was acknowledged and worked on.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with making a thread about a game performing slowly 3 months out from release in an E3 demo. Not sure why you're trying to twist this into something it's not.
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That's alright.
This is entirely possible. And it doesn't equate to lazy devs.
From an on old build at E3 specifically regarding performance before they do the final performance pass before release?
Isnt performance one of the last things they work on at a studio?
I can understand if the thing is a mess but a bit choppy during a 2 minute part of a 20 minute video isnt much to go on.
Knowing Nintendo, they'll have this running at 8K/120 FPS by next Tuesday...
(don't worry, people...)
That's the good thing about E3. Gaming journos get hands-on time with these games, they can provide feedback to the devs, and the devs will fix it.
Even if it run flawless i don't think we would get a demo on eShop.
It'll be interesting to see the difference between the demo and the release build.
This is literally what E3/preview builds in general are for, unless you are Denis Dyack.
No it isnt. Why do you think most of it is CG nowadays? Its to stop people complaining about framedrops in pre release builds.
Ideally, yes, but there's a reason not every game releases with a rock solid frame rate. Some things get prioritized over others. I'd like to think it's high on Nintendo's list to get this ironed out in time for release, but I wouldn't guarantee that's the case.
I'm probably less sensitive about performance than most and I'm getting the game regardless, but I'm glad to have this information available, whether it gets fixed or not.
