No it's no actually, Ronaldo is falling way faster than Messi in terms of performance in the pitchThe fact that Ronnie doesn't have more Balon D'or than anyone else is one of the biggest disgrace in football history.
No it's no actually, Ronaldo is falling way faster than Messi in terms of performance in the pitchThe fact that Ronnie doesn't have more Balon D'or than anyone else is one of the biggest disgrace in football history.
He beat Messi 4-0 when it counted.
La Liga has higher quality football than the PL. PL marketing has worked wonders on the masses for the past decade.
what a shock and Miedema gets no love and should have won. the wrong lesbian woman won and they had 3 to choose from (Pinoe, Miedema, Kerr)
all english champions league final
all english europa league final
a few years back Spain dominated but right now it's all about the PL. In terms of quality and competitiveness
I'm okay with this, Messi has been the best player in the world since he became the Barca focal point. Every damn year without fail.
VVD second, Hazard third.
wtf. Messi scored 2 goals in the semifinals (he just can't do everybody's job)Should have been Big Virg. He shut down Messi when it mattered the most.
im not talking about spanisch players but La Liga or let's say the notion that pyisically weaker players would go down in the PL.
overpriced players are nothing new to that league that swims in money tbh
People really have a hard time accepting that Messi is the best.
The fatigue is strong.
5 Europa Leagues for La Liga this decade, 3 for Premier.
6 Champions Leagues for La Liga, 2 for Premier.
I'm not sure how one year perfoming changes it all. And no, the Premier doesn't have more quality nor competitiveness.
wtf. Messi scored 2 goals in the semifinals (he just can't do everybody's job)
No one is saying Messi isn't the best theres no doubt about that but in this calendar year has he been the most influential and important player to his club? Some are simply arguing Virgil Van Dijk has had a greater affect on his club with his performances in the whole of 2019 only.
No one is saying Messi isn't the best theres no doubt about that but in this calendar year has he been the most influential and important player to his club? Some are simply arguing Virgil Van Dijk has had a greater affect on his club with his performances in the whole of 2019 only.
the best players right now are 3 lesbians... kinda simpleWhat the hell does this even mean?
On topic, congrats to the greatest ever.
I don't think you can make that statement without unfairly minimizing the input from other Liverpool players. I'm not sure how some people ITT seem to be putting the Champions League squarely on VVD's shoulders.
Conversely, I am 90% confident that if you removed Messi from that Barcelona team, the impact is far more devastating on their results/chances than if you took out VVD.
But before VVD Liverpool were all out attack and suffered a lot.
I think that's down to Klopp and his staff more than anything, they above all is the main cog in the system, without him especially, a VVD caliber player missing would be team crippling. You only have to look at the 4-0 game, Liverpool lacked Firmino and Salah for that game, absolutely devastating losses on paper, basically no real chance of actually winning the tie and yet they did.I don't think you can make that statement without unfairly minimizing the input from other Liverpool players. I'm not sure how some people ITT seem to be putting the Champions League squarely on VVD's shoulders.
Conversely, I am 90% confident that if you removed Messi from that Barcelona team, the impact is far more devastating on their results/chances than if you took out VVD.
I think that's down to Klopp and his staff more than anything, they above all is the main cog in the system, without him especially, a VVD caliber player missing would be team crippling. You only have to look at the 4-0 game, Liverpool lacked Firmino and Salah for that game, absolutely devastating losses on paper, basically no real chance of actually winning the tie and yet they did.
Might as well start calling Attaquant d'Or if scoring goals is the only statistic they deem valid.
Hahaha how come AgĂĽero Is not top 10 but mahrez is? This award is a joke. Some seasons awards the best player in the world while on others just the franchise player of the champions league winner.
I don't mind Messi getting it, but comparing him and VVD in the last year seems like apple and oranges. If goalkeepers get their own award, then defenders should be recognised as well.
Still don't really know why Mahrez is on that list.
LOL saying La Liga has weak teams hasn't watched any football in like ever. La Liga is constantly dominating european Football in the last years and only now are slowly loosing pace.
Fuck Barcelona. I hope Catalonia separates from Spain so La Liga boots out that piece of shit team.
He was by far the best so makes sense. Will take 7th as well.
Judging by this thread, people don't watch much football.
Look at the top 10 players of this year. Almost HALF are from Liverpool. They have what 4-5 there ?No one is saying Messi isn't the best theres no doubt about that but in this calendar year has he been the most influential and important player to his club? Some are simply arguing Virgil Van Dijk has had a greater affect on his club with his performances in the whole of 2019 only.
Practically invisible in that 2nd leg against Liverpool huh
True just because last year it was an English final that doesn't mean they dominated
Look at the top 10 players of this year. Almost HALF are from Liverpool. They have what 4-5 there ?
Are you guys really that oblivious ? Look at Barca. Are you guys seriously, with a straight face, saying that VVD carried Liverpool more than Messi did Barca ?
This whole VVD beat Messi thing is either straight up trolling or clueless people. This isn't tennis. You play as a team. VVD didn't beat Messi, Liverpool beat Barca.
Cause Liverpool is just flat out better in almost every way.
I love ERA. But when it comes to sports. I'll try to ignore these threads in the future. Reads like twitter nonsense.
La Liga has been the best league over the last ten years but right now, It's the EPL.
La Liga has been the best league over the last ten years but right now, It's the EPL.
European champions and runners up
Europe League champions and runners up
Six of the top ten players (per this award)
Twelve of the top twenty-one players (two players were tied at 20th)
England favourites for the Euros
The league is more competitive than ever with an expanded top tier of potential winners up to seven teams.
Haha you are really getting carried away there.
Let's wait for this season to end before declaring such bold things as the list above. It could very well be just a freak previous season for all involved, as Liverpool is currently winning games without even knowing how and Man City seem to struggle quite a bit (and never having been a serious contender in Europe).
Didn't Leicester just win 9-0.Yeah no. With EPL every match is tight and entertaining even the last against the first on the table. La Liga is a boring cat and mouse league for years now.
Ridiculous pick. VvD was robbed hard.
Yeah no. With EPL every match is tight and entertaining even the last against the first on the table. La Liga is a boring cat and mouse league for years now.