1. BigWinnie1

    BigWinnie1
    Member

    Thats a lie, she was in Pennsylvania alot.
     
  2. KtotheRoc

    KtotheRoc
    Member

    This is a shit show. And Republicans don't give a fuck. They'll vote Kavanaugh in and laugh as he does the things they want.
     
  3. Wonderment

    Wonderment
    Moderator

    Grassley doesn't know who's asking to speak, nor has a grasp of numbers. Geez.
     
  4. GK86

    GK86
    Member OP

    Grassley: You fucking Dems want to follow rules. What a shame!
     
  5. Trojita

    Trojita
    Member

    Philadelphia isn't the whole state. What they stated was untrue though.
     
  6. Mcfrank

    Mcfrank
    Member

    Sorry I assumed everyone would get that I was being sarcastic to make fun of the other guy.
     
  7. ced

    ced
    Member

    Can we not talk about Clinton, you all sound like the GOP.
     
  8. GameShrink

    GameShrink
    Member

    Is Grassley saying that the restricted documents could be harmful to Trump? As in, he might have tried to ascertain just how forcefully Kavanaugh would protect him from impeachment?

    They're "sensitive" and "harmful" to the executive branch.
     
  9. KtotheRoc

    KtotheRoc
    Member

    The fuck is wrong with Iowa that they keep electing Grassley?
     
  10. ced

    ced
    Member

    There is a reason Trump and his cronies want this guy.
     
  11. Ramjag

    Ramjag
    Member

    Oh boy. At dinner with the in-laws and good conversation suddenly turns into how McCain may not have been an actual hero and how Hilary may be involved in a pedophile ring. I wish we just move the hell on from Hilary.
     
  12. GameShrink

    GameShrink
    Member

    Obviously, but do they have actual documentation that supports our widely held suspicions?
     
  13. DonShula

    DonShula
    Member

    Hence the “hold your nose” part. They knew what they had to do. Now we have two young right-learners on the bench because swing states didn’t get told they were pretty often enough.
     
  14. Wonderment

    Wonderment
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    I know we're all here at this moment in part because of the 2016 election, but let's end the back and forth on Clinton and focus on this hearing. Thank you.
     
  15. He's 100% getting confirmed. No need to watch this.
     
  16. dots

    dots
    Member

    Pretty sure they are torture docs from the Bush years.
     
  17. - Cornyn says Dems are making a mob rule out of the hearing session
    - Much later Grassley complains about being accused of holding a mob rule hearing, seemingly forgetting the accusation was from his own side directed towards dems

    Christ
     
  18. JB2448

    JB2448
    Member

    Elections have consequences. Here's one of the longest lasting ones.
     
  19. blinky

    blinky
    Member

    Yep, this is all theater. From the moment Kavanaugh was nominated, there was never any serious doubt that he would be confirmed.
     
  20. ahoyhoy

    ahoyhoy
    Member

    "McCain is dead! Why do you still want to pretend the rules matter?"
     
  21. Malleymal

    Malleymal
    Member

    How long are the Democrats going to stall? Can they do this until November? F the way politics work.
     
  22. rambis

    rambis
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    Dems just kinda begging the GOP to stop it. Kinda painful to watch.
     
  23. BlackLagoon

    BlackLagoon
    Member

    No, it's just the general "executive privilege" defense, that the president needs to be able to keep certain things secret from the public record because revealing them would damage national security, foreign relations, etc.
     
  24. SG-17

    SG-17
    Community Resettler Member

    If the Dems get enough control to impeach and remove Trump they also need to impeach and remove every appointment he had made, including his SCOTUS justices.


    The Legislative branch needs to take back some power here.
     
  25. Plinko

    Plinko
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    In case anybody forgets how big of a liar Grassley is.
     
  26. DrROBschiz

    DrROBschiz
    Member

    Well FUCK
     
  27. Kraid

    Kraid
    Member

    They... can't force this to stop in any way? Pointing out how fucked up this entire process has been is what they can do, and hope that two Republicans find their sense of shame (lol).
     
  28. lmcfigs

    lmcfigs
    Member

    What could they be trying to hide? What in Kavanaugh's record could be a problem?
     
  29. DrROBschiz

    DrROBschiz
    Member

    Its incredible how much damage they have been able to do in such a short time

    just awful

    Cant bring myself to watch this last blow they deal before being ousted
     
  30. Charpunk

    Charpunk
    Member

    It’s so great that all of this “outrage” means nothing because nothing is going to be done to stop this confirmation. Good job Dems.
     
  31. lol... what do you want them to do?
     
  32. daveo42

    daveo42
    Member

    Yup. Here's hoping enough people get fucked over Kavanaugh that they decide that maybe not voting is actually hazardous to their personal health as well as the health of our democracy.
     
  33. Wonderment

    Wonderment
    Moderator

    Right. There should be nothing to hide, and no problem answering any question.

    These hearings should be ceremonial in some aspect that the judiciary committee should be reiterating their role, and the role and importance of justices. You should just be able to read a standard statement that can be used for every single nomination, as an opening statement.

    Grassley is doing a terrible job of this so far, and now he's bringing up Robert Bork, and op-eds from newspapers. This is bizarre.
     
  34. RolandGunner

    RolandGunner
    Member

    What do you want them to do? This is how Congressional majorities work.
     
  35. Dark Knight

    Dark Knight
    Member

    I don't understand what you want them to do. Stage a coup?
     
  36. lmcfigs

    lmcfigs
    Member

    Good thing we fast tracked all the federal judicial nominees too. God forbid the dems ever get any leverage.
     
  37. Wonderment

    Wonderment
    Moderator

    Ok is he re-reading something he already read?
     
  38. daveo42

    daveo42
    Member

    My guess is his hard lean on repealing Roe v Wade. There are a few GOP senators that would vote against it if Kavanaugh said flat out he wants to repeal abortion rights. His "correct" statements seemed to have swayed those needed to confirm him, even though everyone knows Kavanaugh would repeal it in a heart beat.
     
  39. lmcfigs

    lmcfigs
    Member

    Yeah that makes sense. It's very troubling to me that republicans are acting like this is normal.
     
  40. JavyOO7

    JavyOO7
    Member

    Nothing they can do except to excite their base this year
     
  41. lmcfigs

    lmcfigs
    Member

    Diane Feinstein is a really engaging speaker. I have never noticed that before.
     
  42. GaimeGuy

    GaimeGuy
    Member

    What do you want them to do, shoot kavanaugh? Poison a few republicans that the GOP no longer has a majority? Because realistically those are the only paths to stopping this sham, legal or otherwise.

    This both sides crap rises out of posts like yours, and it's BS
     
  43. PhaZe 5

    PhaZe 5
    Member

    The courts are getting packed anyway
     
  44. Prophaniti

    Prophaniti
    Member

    Loool so dumb. I needed a laugh given how depressing this all is.
     
  45. GK86

    GK86
    Member OP

    Senator Feinstein calling out his bullshit.
     
  46. Wonderment

    Wonderment
    Moderator

    This is unreal. Feinstein dispensing with an opening statement to go directly to Roe V. Wade, where she admits she prosecuted women to prison for having abortions, and seeing the resulting horrendous statistics. Then goes on to establish that based on Kavanaugh's writings, he is willing to set aside precedent. Whew.
     
  47. Kraid

    Kraid
    Member

    He was a part of the Bush administration when they decided on their torture policy. He lied about this under oath when he was confirmed for the Circuit Court in 2006. He's a partisan hack who is 100% going to do whatever he can to gut Roe. Oh, and he was suddenly able to pay off thousands and thousands of dollars for debt mysteriously before being nominated.

    This is making me fucking sick.
     
  48. What is the matter with you? Yeesh. Transparent as fuck trying to pin the blame for this atrocity on anyone but the monsters ramrodding this piece of shit through.
     
  49. So there’s no chance on some Republicans voting with the Dems?
     
  50. Maxim726x

    Maxim726x
    Member

    Slim to none.

    There's a much greater chance that vulnerable Democrats will vote to confirm him. Repubs are a lock, every one of them.