This pretty much killed the highest trim Tesla for a lot of people who just commute regular distances.
Not only that, but being Porsche the materials won't wear like cheap plastic or be cheap plastic lol. The first time I saw a Tesla Model S, I was baffled at how everything was straight up "cheap" for the price you pay
I mean you do realize comparing the highest trims it's $80k more expensive lol I would certainly hope the materials or SOMETHING about it would be better because the specs and performance sure aren't.
I mean you do realize comparing the highest trims it's $80k more expensive lol I would certainly hope the materials or SOMETHING about it would be better because the specs and performance sure aren't.
Like most expensive things, you're paying for the name. But in this case, the Taycan is much more attractive compared to any Tesla.
I hope Liam Neeson is there to introduce the car with an appropriate pun.
"You could say I am quite taken with this motor vehicle."
If you've ever owned a Porsche, you will understand why it's 80k more
It certainly is one good looking car that's for sure. I found a better comparison chart, it's almost double the price if you compare the various trims so:
So really I don't even know if they're competing in same market... Taycan is gonna sell like crazy to Porsche enthusiasts I'm sure... but the poster that said the high end Tesla market was killed, not so sure about that.
I mean you do realize comparing the highest trims it's $80k more expensive lol I would certainly hope the materials or SOMETHING about it would be better because the specs and performance sure aren't.
A Nissan GT-R trashed Porsches is the past at half the price, this is not the point. Porsche buyers know why it's more expensive, this car can do a lap on the Ring without compromise , the Tesla can't.Yeah those specs don't help Porsche in any way. You'd be crazy to spend way more to get way less.
A Nissan GT-R trashed Porsches is the past at half the price, this is not the point. Porsche buyers know why it's more expensive, this car can do a lap on the Ring without compromise , the Tesla can't.
Plus, at least Tesla tells it's customers that, ludicrous mode damages the car in the long run. This thing is build to take the abuse indefinitely. That is a huge thing imo - but of course hard to do marketing with.
It has been their messaging since the start, to get the Porsche DNA ino a BEV and have a car that can take the abuse until the battery runs out of energy. They showed it with their Ring lap. And they pointed out in the past that the car is not being the fastest at a straight line but be a proper sports car (handling, non stop performance) they even teased sub 3,5sec times - it's actually a suprise they went sub 3sec.Maybe...this is their first outing in the electric realm so we don't know if it's built to last.
I mean you do realize comparing the highest trims it's $80k more expensive lol I would certainly hope the materials or SOMETHING about it would be better because the specs and performance sure aren't.
So, I have a question about electric cars. Do all brands use the same charging connector?
No shit. The Porsche brand was never gonna be cheap. They have VW for that. VW will officially unveil the ID.3 next week at the Frankfurt Motor Show. The car will be priced below €30k with more expensive versions with bigger batteries and better performance.Very nice looking but at the price point it will be a very niche car; nothing to really move the market.
lmao
From what I know, Tesla failed the ring a few years ago as it only made it 1/3 of the way until it hit limp mode. Ever since, they stopped cause it brought too much negative attention.It has been their messaging since the start, to get the Porsche DNA ino a BEV and have a car that can take the abuse until the battery runs out of energy. They showed it with their Ring lap. And they pointed out in the past that the car is not being the fastest at a straight line but be a proper sports car (handling, non stop performance) they even teased sub 3,5sec times - it's actually a suprise they went sub 3sec.
There is a reason Tesla never tried to run the Ring officially.
I really find it amusing that a lot of people, including that marques guy and people on Twitter act like a luxury item being more expensive then a non (less) luxury one is a crazy concept. Lol.
So, I have a question about electric cars. Do all brands use the same charging connector?
You were expecting a cheap(er) car from Porsche?It starts at $150k?
I thought their entire goal was to come up with something that was comparable to the S and go right after it?
They came in at almost double...
It starts at $150k?
I thought their entire goal was to come up with something that was comparable to the S and go right after it?
They came in at almost double...
I think they said cheaper models are coming after this one.
Is the move to a total touchscreen (minus the wheel) something car manufacturers want (maybe based on the perception of luxury) / where the market is going, or do drivers generally like it? Like are knobs and dials considered less luxury?
Maybe it's more of an EV thing.
It's sadly not an EV thing.Is the move to a total touchscreen (minus the wheel) something car manufacturers want (maybe based on the perception of luxury) / where the market is going, or do drivers generally like it? Like are knobs and dials considered less luxury?
Maybe it's more of an EV thing.
Not really an EV thing. The entire VW Group are switching to touchscreens and capacitive buttons with their new higher segement cars, think A6 and up etc.. Only the lower segment cars are using buttons for the climate control.Is the move to a total touchscreen (minus the wheel) something car manufacturers want (maybe based on the perception of luxury) / where the market is going, or do drivers generally like it? Like are knobs and dials considered less luxury?
Maybe it's more of an EV thing.
Yeah, this is an industry trend that is getting complaints. Needing to access a touchscreen to do everything is not very popular. It's fine for a lot of things, but having a knob or button to quickly adjust climate controls is much preferred. For actions that are used while in motion, it could also be a safety concern. You don't want to be scrolling a touchscreen while driving.Not really an EV thing. The entire VW Group are switching to touchscreens and capacitive buttons with their new higher segement cars, think A6 and up etc.. Only the lower segment cars are using buttons for the climate control.
New Mercedes and BMW cars has kept the buttons, for example in the new 1 and 3 series.
Are WLTP and EPA stats comparable?It certainly is one good looking car that's for sure. I found a better comparison chart, it's almost double the price if you compare the various trims so:
So really I don't even know if they're competing in same market... Taycan is gonna sell like crazy to Porsche enthusiasts I'm sure... but the poster that said the high end Tesla market was killed, not so sure about that.