So?
If he was on network TV he'd have been cancelled and wouldn't be back on the air in 3 weeks.
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Logan Paul returns to Youtube
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So?
If he was on network TV he'd have been cancelled and wouldn't be back on the air in 3 weeks.
Now, I understand the notion to put up a video to bring public awareness but if this is just another example of "hey, look at me, look at what I'm doing now. I also donated 1 million dollars" then I still don't have much respect for the guy. If he's sincere then good on him, most deserve a second chance.
well, his target audience (preteens, teens) are especially prone to experiencing suicidal ideation, so in the end this video could do some good even if his true intentions are selfish, so there's that.
as someone else pointed out though, some of those camera shots betray his douchiness.
as someone else pointed out though, some of those camera shots betray his douchiness.
I mean, I don't see too many nuanced opinions among the vitriol - that's why I brought it up. It's not about thinking so little of people, it's about human nature to categorize good and evil. You can't honestly not see that we are very much in an era where we are quick to say somebody is bad or good and judge their actions, regardless of their nature, in accordance with our original assessment. It's very much the climate we live in in today's world. I sorta see what you mean about WWE, but things are even more black and white in terms of good and evil (except for the tweeners, who incidentally end up being the most popular and memorable characters because we relate to them more than extremes)'
I'm sorry that he did what he did and that people in your position had to see it (and anyone for that matter). I just hope that some good can come from what he's doing after the fact, regardless of opinion of the source.
That's fine, and I'm probably in the same boat as you are. I just prefer to see the good that can come of money and awareness, even from a douchebag.
I don't care how people judge him - I personally think he's a piece of shit, self-aggrandizing merchandise machine. But if he's going to give money to a cause that needs it and reach viewers with the message via a signal that most people simply don't have access to, I'm not going to attack that aspect of him or that particular action itself. My contention was with people in this thread literally finding every reason in the world that donating a million dollars to suicide prevention causes was a bad thing.
Yup, the real Paul is the one who has no empaty and acts like an idiot.
His videos of him in Japan and the forest should mean he does not get another chance
he does not deserve a platform aimed at children
he does not deserve a platform aimed at children
This. So many people in this thread are acting like people are saying the donation is a bad thing, which is just not the case.
$1mil to Suicide charity? That's AWESOME! Do I think Logan is full of shit? ABSOLUTELY.
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It's a strategy right out of the sociopath playbook. Unfortunately this kind of manipulation tends to be very, very effective on people who have never learned how to recognise it (particularly children, his main audience).
I still don't see proof that the money he's donated has gone to charities. I don't see confirmation if $250K to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline that he name-drops has gone through or the other charities that he's donating to with the rest of the $750K. It's best to stay sceptical.
This dude showed a corpse for millions to watch on top of his continued racist remarks.
Nah, nah.
Any tv personality would have been fired and been left in the dust.
1 million is a lot yes, but it isn't much (for him) in the grand scheme of things because he will earn that money back in spades.
Nah, nah.
Any tv personality would have been fired and been left in the dust.
1 million is a lot yes, but it isn't much (for him) in the grand scheme of things because he will earn that money back in spades.
Dont think so no ads play and there are no pop up ads where you have recommendations
What the fuck dude? Are you actually serious with this post? You think people are jealous of a racist shithole that profits off of being a genuine subhuman?
I have never seen a more wrong post in my life. Jesus.
I think it's entirely possible for a 20 something to do something incredibly stupid, get embarrassed beyond his wildest imagination, and end up changing and growing as a person.
Since I'm an empathetic human being who was also a dumb 20 something at one point in my life I hope this guy is sincere in his change and reflection.
I feel like the hate surrounding this guy and this incident is pretty intense and I have a hard time understanding how it's affecting some of you so much.
Since I'm an empathetic human being who was also a dumb 20 something at one point in my life I hope this guy is sincere in his change and reflection.
I feel like the hate surrounding this guy and this incident is pretty intense and I have a hard time understanding how it's affecting some of you so much.
He's not just 'dumb', he's a racist dumb, the kind who think his whiteness allows him the privilege of acting like a jackass and idiotic towards others and expect the world to just laugh with him and pat his back.
LOL at you who frame it as 'oh I'm a empathetic human being, unlike you folks who is still mad at him', get out of here with that shit.
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People are extremely jealous of him, no need to hide it. His a multi millionaire at 22-23 , he will see more money in his life time then whole generations of families have even grossed.
Edit: wow fucked up and bias moderation, how can i be downplaying a serious issue, am i the one spreading a gif from a suicide prevention video to mock people. WTF
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lol.
If you want to ignore the plainly obvious and just make up a fantasy world where this dude hasn't been a complete shit forever, then go ahead.
Nobody is going on that ride with you.
Edit: Apparently some will.
What the heck is people characterizing those criticizing this kid as 'small minded', 'jealous', 'unempathetic'? You're trying to take a moral high ground for a kid who yells 'for bitches' and acting like insufferable prick at religious shrines and jokes around at a dead body in a restricted place, completely making light of the entire situation?
THAT is the kind of dude you're taking a moral high ground for?
THAT is the kind of dude you're taking a moral high ground for?
I am sure many 20 year olds have done stupid shit, but then there is also showing a dead corpse purple hands and all for millions to watch particularly children for profit. Do you know many twenty year olds, including yourself that did that type of heinous shit? I don't know what kind of stupid stuff you did, but for me "stupid" stuff at 20 was passing out drunk in a patch of blackberry bushes.
You have empathy toward people that profit off of showing dead corpses? That is one hell of a moral fiber, and one I wish I could have!
How about spreading his racist ideologies through his twitter posts and videos for starters with his reach and popularity?
THE DUDE SHOWED A DEAD CORPSE TO CHILDREN.
Who are these people that are jealous of a racist that profits off of dead people, can you provide me any links, interviews, etc?
I'm jealous. I wish I had his money. I will never make that much in my entire life.
Then I would say you are as bad as Logan Paul, if you are actually jealous of the way he earns his money.
Sorry, thats on you.
That is perfectly fine and a really just part of being a human being. It's just normal to be jealous of other people living a much easier life than you.
Really LOL though at characterizing the backlash he received as being fully motivated by people jealous of him. How about decency?
As someone who suffers from suicidal ideation the fact that a human being was brought so low that they had nowhere else to turn but suicide m to then have said lowest point filmed, made a mockery of and then paraded on the internet for views pisses me off to no end.
And a self absorbed blatantly insincere "documentary" certainly won't make me change my mind in thinking Logan Paul is a total cunt.
Him giving money is literally the easiest thing he could do. He's probably gained more from this controversy than he's giving away.
I wish i was a multi-millionaire. Im 26 and not a millionaire so when i see a 23 year old who's banking over $20m a year, i'd envy his wealth.
Ha! Yeah I live in Tokyo and I don't do that kind of behaviour so there's no need for that.
I also wish I could have as much money as Bill Gates, does that make me as good as him?
Let's conveniently skip the whole "the way he earns his money," profiting off of his racist views, videos, and corpse videos.
It's one thing to be jealous about being rich, it's another to be jealous about being rich off the profit of the destruction of others. Get the point or enter the ignore function.
All his videos show dead bodies and have racist remarks ? How many have it ?
Enter the ignore function ?
Wow. You're coming across as really aggressive.
I'm jealous he has a lot of money, that's all I said and you ignored my question so I will repeat it.
If my being jealous of Paul Logan's wealth makes me as bad as him then does being jealous of Bill Gate's wealth make me as good as him?
So you can either answer the question or just go ahead and ignore me and pretend this didn't happen. Also, I never defended Logan or how he makes money at any point. That's how you took my answer.
Sorry, that's on you.
I said something similar earlier in the thread, but nope, apparently we're just jealous.
Yeah, just go right ahead and make an accusation about me defending Logan and then when you realise you were wrong, conveniently block me.
You're not being fair dude. Him saying that he's jealous of Logan having lots of money does not necessarily mean he's condoning his behavior.
Cool that he donated that money and talked to that suicide attempt survivor, but somehow, the video still felt like it was more about him than anything...
These slow shots of him watching his face and pondering lol, is this dude serious? Setting up that redemption tour I guess. This guy is still an arrogant prick, I'm sure.
These slow shots of him watching his face and pondering lol, is this dude serious? Setting up that redemption tour I guess. This guy is still an arrogant prick, I'm sure.
It would be interesting to see what kind of content he would produce in the future.
I don't think he would be stupid enough creating the ones like where he acted like a racist prick in Japan, but who knows.
The name itself "Redemption tour" feels almost like he is not taking this situation seriously.
I am probably looking into this too much but it sounds like some big entertainment event rather than a heartfelt documentary.
Because he's pond scum. Let me guess you're worried about his feelings? Get a grip.
I want to believe that anyone can change and improve.
But this pretentious shoots...
Oh good god.
You may want to go back and reread Creatchee's posts if that's your takeaway. Life is complicated. It's okay to dislike/despise/hate someone while understanding that they are still capable of doing some good. If he's being genuine, great. If he's not, shame on anyone that continues to support him, but at least some good came out of that douchebag's time on Youtube (re: awareness and donations).
Like I said, its one thing to be jealous off someone who is rich. Elon Musk is a great example to me personally.
It's another to be jealous off of someone that profits off his (LP) types of views, videos, and media feed. If you are jealous off of people profiting in that matter, thats on the individual for lacking any semblance of moral fiber.
Lastly, to discredit people who don't have any empathy for people like Logan Paul because we are merely jealous of his fortune and fame, is looking at it through some fucked up narrow viewpoint. Money is important, yes, but it's not the be all end all for many people.
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I don't care about Logan Paul and hated his personality before. That said I am glad that he's trying to change and am willing to give him an actual chance, because I'm that type of guy.