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London Bridge terror incident: suspect shot dead by police after five injured [update: two members of public dead]

Dan

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So to summarise:

Sources: 5 casulties at London Bridge
Met Police: One man detained
 
Brinbe

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really shot that dude in the head damn. and that video from the tweet isn't graphically gorey or anything. more sad i guess since he was on the floor and struggling to get up?

i don't know the circumstances or what he did though, so don't know if it was warranted.
 

mclem

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LBsquared said:
In the US when these incidents occur, the media uses "casualty" to mean deaths. Apparently that's not the case in the UK.
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In the UK our emergency ward - the ER in the US - is sometimes referred to as the casualty ward; it's the immediate urgent treatment place. I assume that's the context that's being used here.
 
MouldyK

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And it all rolls into Brexit!

Like do we even know if he was masked and a terrorist?
 
The Fabled Englishman

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Geoff said:
Just seen a video where the coppers are wrestling with a guy on the floor, then they (the police) all scarper, the guy starts to move off the ground and one of the coppers shoots him or possibly tazes him


That's the video. It might contain someone getting shot in the head so be warned
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That looks like a civilian wrestling with him, not a copper. Looks like the cops dragged the civvie away and shot the guy.

Shugga said:
5 killed with a knife ? That's unusually high
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On London Bridge? It's packed with tourists at all hours of the day. It sounds believable to me.
 
RestEerie

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Koukalaka said:
It's not even that difficult to remember this, how does it keep happening?
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hate to say this but most probably never ever leave their country and set foot on another country to know the difference.

Yah..but it's pretty evident for anyone that ever venture to london that tower bridge and london bridge are two totally separate thing (london bridge is just a bridge)
 
Geoff

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RestEerie said:
hate to say this but most probably never ever leave their country and set foot on another country to know the difference.

Yah..but it's pretty evident for anyone that ever venture to london that tower bridge and london bridge are two totally separate thing (london bridge is just a bridge)
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I understand it.

London Bridge is the one they have heard of and Tower Bridge is the one they recognise - so they assume that the one they recognise is London Bridge.
 
jelly

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It could be Jim from Siberia but that won't stop idiots saying, this is why we have to leave the EU etc..

Hope the injuries aren't too servere.
 
DrewFu

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Geoff said:
I understand it.

London Bridge is the one they have heard of and Tower Bridge is the one they recognise - so they assume that the one they recognise is London Bridge.
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Basically this. We always hear about London Bridge, but always see Tower Bridge. Honestly, I'm not sure how many times I've seen London Bridge before today.
 
Xando

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Hope everyone will be fine.

Whenever these events happen i'm happy we don't have easy accessible guns in europe.
 
Dyle

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Very weird to see the cops shoot him at point blank like that, that would be an unusually violent response in the US, let alone a better policed place like London. At least the civilians who disarmed him acted responsibly
 
Praxis

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Doubt they wanted to take the chance this knob had a suicide vest. Can't blame them
 
Kyuuji

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Just got an email that my office nearby, which I'm not in today, is currently in lockdown with noone entering or leaving.
 
DrewFu

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Dyle said:
Very weird to see the cops shoot him at point blank like that, that would be an unusually violent response in the US, let alone a better policed place like London. At least the civilians who disarmed him acted responsibly
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I was thinking the same. Even here in the US where lethal force is a pretty regular occurrence, the cops shooting a seemingly subdued suspect point blank would be very odd, and would likely be the story from then on.

Maybe there was something we couldn't see.
 
Umbrella Carp

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Now transplant this incident to America, replace the knife with a gun and suddenly you have a far more dramatic and deadly incident.
 
Audioboxer

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Hodgy said:
i hope they didn't just shoot someone with a knife that was already subdued...
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Dyle said:
Very weird to see the cops shoot him at point blank like that, that would be an unusually violent response in the US, let alone a better policed place like London. At least the civilians who disarmed him acted responsibly
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It's being treated as a terrorist incident. If there is a viable threat of life our police will respond with lethal force.

Let's not bring stupid comparisons in to America where they shoot people for simply existing.

At the scene, BBC home affairs correspondent Tom Symonds says the police have put in an "enormous cordon".

He said an officer warned him it was "a potential firearms incident" and told him to take "hard cover" if needed.
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The Fabled Englishman

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DrewFu said:
I was thinking the same. Even here in the US where lethal force is a pretty regular occurrence, the cops shooting a seemingly subdued suspect point blank would be very odd, and would likely be the story from then on.

Maybe there was something we couldn't see.
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If it was a copycat from the 2017 attacks, he could well have been wearing a fake explosive vest or carrying multiple weapons.
 
Xando

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Dyle said:
Very weird to see the cops shoot him at point blank like that, that would be an unusually violent response in the US, let alone a better policed place like London. At least the civilians who disarmed him acted responsibly
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I mean if they responded to what possibly is a terrorist attack and see someone on the ground wrestling with a possible victim there can be immediate danger because you don't know how he is armed and whether he might wear a svest
 
Fatoy

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As people have already said, UK firearms officers don't tend to shoot people unjustifiably - although obviously it does happen from time to time.

In this case, it looks as though a member of the public was holding the suspect down, then got instructed by the police to get off him and run. If the guy on the ground then made a move to try and go after the civilian who'd only just moved out of the way, or the civilian shouted that he had another weapon, then that might be why the police fired. It's hard to tell from that angle, and without sound.
 
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