Discussion in 'EtcetEra' started by Ashby, Apr 1, 2018.
The place I grew up in in london is now heavily gentrified yet crime hasn't dropped substantially. Petty crime has even risen I think , all anecdotal stuff so I'm glad to be called out about it
Cuts to policing are only one part of this problem. Far more destructive is the reduction in social programs that have a proven effect in reducing gang violence. With local authorities becoming ever more cash-starved, youth outreach and intervention teams are frequently first on the chopping block. Not London, but my town has 4 empty council properties that previously housed youth organisations.
Well. We still haven't had a school massacre since 1996! and we introduced our gun legislation in 1997 :)
Edit: Shoulda read whole post before responding. Bravo, good troll.
When black people are 8 times more likely to be stopped and searched, you know something isn't right
please fuck off trying to make it something racial.
Teenage Mutant Cockney Turtles save us!
You sound just like those idiots that where sprouting their no-go zone nonsense last year without knowing much , does Croydon have crime .. yes just like any other part of the country .. Gangs .. yes like every other part of the country so signalling out Croydon which predominantly has an ethnic make up of POC you ain't doing your self any favours
Then there's the almost " no go zone" type bollocks like "I'm not stepping foot in that cesspool" kind of shit.
Croydon , so please tell me more about my "shithole" "ceasepool" town
I never called it a no go zone, I called it a shithole full of violence and crime. I'm not wrong.
I don't think it's a nice city. I travel through there every day on the way to work. The high street is depressing. The Whitgift centre is awful. It's rundown, intimidating and dangerous. I have two young boys and I'd far sooner let them out in town than anywhere near Croydon at the weekend.
Who on earth do you think you are? I live about a mile from there but have to bow down to your sanctimonious bollocks about how it's some rainbow place of sunshine. Jog on.
Everyone, cool it with the personal attacks. If you can't have a debate regarding crime in Croydon without doing so, then you're more than welcome to just not post.
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Lol at the Croydon defence force
Yeah, the number of murders has been growing recently, but it's still lower than it was a decade ago and still low for a city of London's size.
But I hear the words ‘ I’m gonna shank you’ online and on tv far more than I’ve ever seen something about knife law/punishment
Two shootings in London in the space of an hour have left a 17-year-old girl dead and a boy, 16, critically ill.
Another one RIP kid.
The only thing you have to deal with is the general public being unaware or selfish idiots being loud or getting in the way but that's the same everywhere you go.
Name one good thing that has come out of Croydon. One.
It's exactly the same as any other busy city, it gets crowded, people in general are oblivious arseholes, kids can be annoying but to paint it as some hell hole is ridiculous.
I live right in the centre of Croydon and I have never felt unsafe to walk around. At most the amount of people can make me anxious but never because of fear for my safety.
I think saying Croydon is a relatively criminal place is fair, I mean compared to the rest of the country it stands out. Not to say it's the biggest craphole in the world but people aren't just pulling this out their arse.
I went to Croydon over the weekend to go to Heart Of Gaming (and what a disappointment that place was).
If there's a part of London that might just qualify for the criteria of being suitable for nuking from orbit, it's that place.
We have very different definitions of normal people getting on with their criminality *ahem* normal lives when it comes to Croydon.
Croydon isn't too far off from the likes of Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham as places to avoid at all costs. Cesspits as far as the eye can see.
Some of the most racist or racially prejudiced comments I have heard in my life have come from mixed and black people.
You might mean well with what you are saying and I'm not going to argue your general point, but reminding people of how brown you isn't a defence in and of itself.
Basically this post comes across as *AVOID THE POORS!!* Poor taste dude.
Honestly, even if you have narrowed it down to handsworth/Aston, Moss side/Cheetham hill or Liverpool town centre on a Saturday night, I still would say you are being incredibly unfair.
The level of generalisation you are committing to is offensive and unfair. Yes these cities have their rough areas and yes they do have common problems but you can't just right off an entire city because of it.
Not gonna lie. Any time a thread like this is made, you really see the ugly side of this website. Some of the comments here would not be out of place on a Daily mail article.
You don't just cut something on Monday and see the negative effects by Wednesday. That's the problem, people forget who made the cuts and only blame the person in front of them.
In the same way that I imagine some people in old mining towns now blame immigration for their lack of opportunities.
As for the police officers comments, gonna call bullshit on that. Homeless services around the country have seen massive cuts, as have drug treatment and mental health services. Even the ones that still do exist have been hamstrung by the universal credit system which punishes the homeless before they even get a chance to receive help.
He may think there is plenty of options and maybe more than a decade ago he would of been right. But austerity have hit the homeless and the people at risk of homelessness the very hardest. There isn't even half the support their once was and the support there is no is down to voluntary organisations and charities.