I hate him only because he's a discount Adachi in every sense of the word but tries to be played off as 'tragic'.
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Looks like Persona 5 Royal might be expanding a certain character's role. (open P5 spoilers)
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You guys have to understand the reason he's so popular is the same reason they're giving Morgana a human form.
The JP audience LOVES the Ikemen archetype.
The JP audience LOVES the Ikemen archetype.
Atlus gonna redempt him and Era will lose it's mind. It will be beautiful
How good should I feel that I didn't know what an "Ikemen" is? Can I still be saved?
How good should I feel that I didn't know what an "Ikemen" is? Can I still be saved?
Hope there's a choice to let him die.
I mean, is not like I'm buying this game anyway but still.
I mean, is not like I'm buying this game anyway but still.
Just wait until they play up the gay innuendo between Akechi and Joker for the sake of the fangirls!
It doesn't make much sense for him to join the party, they'd pretty much have to completely rewrite him. And as far as I can remember his kit in battle didn't seem like it provided anything I missed when he left.
I'm really curious on how they are going to get this to work.
I'm really curious on how they are going to get this to work.
So will they go nuts and make the new girl the true betrayer or she's just the final victim in all of this? That's my question :P
Yeah that's my guess that Kasumi is twisted as she directly opposes the thieves.
They kinda need to completely rewrite him anyway, he has no depth and introducing a new primary actor in the narrative means you can't have him and Joker's "rivalry" be so shallow. So they probably are significantly altering him.
I hope they give him his own palace , and once his heart is changed, he'll atone by helping the Phantom Thieves for the rest of the game before turning himself in for his crimes in the epilogue.
That's probably too much to ask from Atlus, sadly. At the very least, they better at least attribute his mass murder to brainwashing from Yalbadroth or something.
That's probably too much to ask from Atlus, sadly. At the very least, they better at least attribute his mass murder to brainwashing from Yalbadroth or something.
You know, good writing doesnt have to show a character being killed on screen to still have them die
Bets: Akechi's going to jail instead of Joker, and that's how you're able to experience the additional semester
See I've been thinking Persona 5 Royal may end up being a retelling of the story ala Pokemon Ultra Sun/Moon rather than a 1:1 recreation, so if that's the case, I can see Akechi actions from original game getting more white washed.
Like him not personally being the one to kill Okumura.
See it wouldn't even be so bad if he were just a serial killer who gets redeemed. That would just make him like Vegeta or whatever.
The fact that he's just so badly written on top of it all makes it the worst.
The fact that he's just so badly written on top of it all makes it the worst.
Day 1
Best change, they fixed the worst thing about the plot
Should never have gotten killed in the first place
Best change, they fixed the worst thing about the plot
Should never have gotten killed in the first place
Persona users not having palaces is an important point of both the narrative and the themes.
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So to get some insight I ended up looking at how many fics on Archive of our own are tagged Akechi/Protagonist.
1687
For comparison Makoto/Protagonist has 494.
1687
For comparison Makoto/Protagonist has 494.
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I was curious how much was written. Not like I read the stories themselves but it shows where a large part of his fan base is.
Just looking up the tag tells you how many.
I remember being there like a LOT of fan creations about Akechi and the Protagonist. Of all kinds. I bet the fans are having a field day right now with this probability
Forget that he was a mass murderer and he killed Okumura
Just as a character, he was the best. You wanted to know his past/story. His cutscenes were always hype. His design was perfect. Even when he joined he was the best help
Like compare him to reused persona characters #1000 and #1001 , aka Ryuji and Ann. Who cared about them
This better not be some cognition 'Dream BS'
Just as a character, he was the best. You wanted to know his past/story. His cutscenes were always hype. His design was perfect. Even when he joined he was the best help
Like compare him to reused persona characters #1000 and #1001 , aka Ryuji and Ann. Who cared about them
This better not be some cognition 'Dream BS'
Well none of the characters do anything that can't be covered by Joker by that point in the game if you look at it like that
Adults were mean to him as a kid. That supercedes all murders.
Yeah, I'm pretty hopeful actually. They've got hindsight on their side and the events as they are currently felt like the result of a rushed final act.
... wait I forgot about Adachi. Oh shit.
At first I thought of course its akechi. Then when I opened the thread and saw Haru first in the screen shot I was like oh great they are integrating her more into the early parts. Then I read the details and of course its akechi. Not surprising at all. I hope all characters are expanded alongside him.
How so? Morgana's explanation is that Persona users are in control of their emotions, which is demonstrably false.
So was he always like "cartoon villainy" level insane like when they confront him in his battle or was that not until Joker and the gang kept thrwarting him, and on top of that his jealousy of Joker not having to put in the amount of effort he did, causing him to unwind even further?
I don't think that was the wording. There was an explanation in the game that Persona users don't have palaces because palaces are the manifestation of one's ego. Palaces are essentially the personas of the Phantom Thieves' targets. When someone awakens to their persona, that's the manifestation of their inner selves, so they can't have some other, different manifestation of themselves. It'd be analogous to the reason why a persona user can't have a legitimate shadow (which the Persona 4 Arena series gets into).
Persona 5 itself gets into this when it comes to covering certain plot holes. Like why Akechi wouldn't have just infiltrated the Phantom Thieves' palaces and kill them from there.
Seems a bit early to say he's redeemed?
All we know is that Royal is enhancing the existing story bits as well as adding new ones. Maybe they're redoing the entire betrayal sequence. Maybe it makes sense for him to be there with Haru. Chill until more info.
All we know is that Royal is enhancing the existing story bits as well as adding new ones. Maybe they're redoing the entire betrayal sequence. Maybe it makes sense for him to be there with Haru. Chill until more info.
I see. I get what they're going for now but I don't agree with it because a persona and shadow are opposite sides of the psyche.
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