Lootboxes have Evolved: Introducing Battlefield V's Airlifts [Update: Predetermined Cosmetics]

[Araujo]

Airlifts are part of the Deluxe Edition

Battlefield V Deluxe Edition

• Battlefield V Standard Edition
• Battlefield V Base Game
• Battlefield V Open Beta
• Paratrooper Gear (1 Set)
• Immediate Access to 5 Battlefield V Weapons
• Standard Edition Special Assignments
• Early Access to Battlefield V (3 Days)
• Deluxe Edition Special Assignments
• 20 Weekly Items with Airlift

So, essentially, we know Battlefield V will monetize cosmetics in order to sustain it's GaaS strategy, giving other content for free while charging you for visual customization for your characters.

Although there isn't a lot of information out there on what Airlift is and how it works, what this tells us is that it seems like instead of buying Lootboxes for random items, you will be subscribing for weekly item drops that will give you some customization stuff at random.

So, my guess is that you can buy a "Hat" for 5 bucks or a pack of 4 random "hats" for 12 bucks via airlift giving you 1 per week in a subscription format... so... y'know... the longer you stay subscribed, the cheaper it gets and more stuff you get. I'm guess to a point where you would be a fool paying for any cosmetic you want when you can get way more stuff by just paying up for a full year of Airlift subscription services for weekly drops... y'know... pay a little extra, get a little surprise gift bonus every week? It's like Christmas! *

So, yeah... EA will try a different format for Lootboxing their way into Battlefield V.

*= Clearly my personal guess, there is no hard information i could find on this yet.


Mod edit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/8qbucp/battlefield_v_airlift_items_clarification/

They aren't gambling lootboxes, they're predetermined cosmetics that everybody who pre-orders is guaranteed to get.

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[Shark]

So they're offering you two different ways to acquire the same item? If that's the case, I don't see the problem.

 

[CloseTalker]

As long as it's cosmetic, and you have an option of buying what you want, go nuts.

 

[Xando]

Lol

 

[ProstatePuncher]

The model of selling customisations is perfectly fine in my eyes, as long as you get what you pay for, and not a dumb chance box. I just don't want them to use a premium currency that always leaves a bit left over so you get goaded into buying some more to get another item, then you have even more left over. Just like the old Microsoft Points strategy.

 

[BernardoOne]

As long as it's cosmetic, and you have an option of buying what you want, go nuts.

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Yep

 

[Milk Lizard]

fuck yeah give me all the airlifts

 

[Savantcore]

What exactly are Airlifts? Are they in the game outside of this pre-order bonus?

And I don't think the weekly aspect means it will be a subscription thing. On FIFA, some editions come with weekly packs just because.

 

[Decarb]

As long as there's an option to directly buy what you want..

 

[Orayn]

Do we have confirmation that they're all random items? Could be a simple track like Fortnite, or a combination of random and guaranteed rewards like Destiny 2's new punch-card thing.

IIRC we've known about the concept of airlifts since BFV was announced but they haven't added any more details since.

 

[KillLaCam]

As long as there's an option to directly buy what you want..

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There is. Jackfrags also said you can earn everything but you can't buy everything.

 

[Dennis8K]

Probably better than lootboxes if the idea is to give people (whales) a chance to get stuff that they would otherwise have to play a lot to get.

 

[Theorry]

This seems abit to early really. We dont know what airlifts and what they do. Nothing is right away "lootbox".

 

[Azajabar]

I have no problem with Cosmetic only loot boxes, hell I even encourage it if it makes Maps free, like Overwatch is doing for example

 

[Alienous]

Lootboxes are a very particular thing.

"20 weekly airlifts, each containing one customisation item" could be something more akin to a season pass for cosmetic content.

 

[No Depth]

I dunno, can't really see much reason to outrage here.

 

[asd202]

Haha EA with it's new ideas.

 

[Richietto]

They probably are something like lootboxes but besides the Deluxe edition it doesn't seem like you can buy them. I see no problem with weekly random rewards you can earn. Hell they might not even be random.

 

[Fart Master]

In what world do you live in where a GaaS title won't have some sort monetization? Question is whether it ruins the gameplay, this probably won't.

 

[Papercuts]

Stay cosmetic and I can't say this really bothers me, but it does seem particularly shitty in this specific instance considering they were on stage and literally said no lootboxes.

 

[Mass_Pincup]

Not the same game, not the same content.

 

[Deleted member 5535]

I don't see anywhere lootbox on it. If anything it's something cosmetic that you'll get weekly.

 

[KoolAid]

Nothing about that says loot boxes. The fact that it's weekly makes me understand it's a specific customization item, no randomization

 

[adrem007]

Disgusting and people eating this shit up ''nah it's not lootboxes it's different'' are even more disgusting

 

[Eumi]

Honestly airlifts could literally be lootboxes and so long as you can buy each item individually I can't see any issues.

 

[Dennis8K]

Lootlift
Airboxes
Boxlifts

The possibilities are endless.

 

[Avitus]

I'm fine with lootboxes, as long as the game doesn't route unlocks through them.

If they have an Alpha Pack style system like R6 siege, that would be awesome.

 

[B00T]

do we know if these are random drops orrrr...?

 

[Deleted member 8784]

Disgusting and people eating this shit up ''nah it's not lootboxes it's different'' are even more disgusting

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You don't even know what they are yet.

 

[Deleted member 11093]

Where's the anti-lootboxes attack force on Overwatch's threads?

 

[Richietto]

Disgusting and people eating this shit up ''nah it's not lootboxes it's different'' are even more disgusting

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I mean nothing says they are random, or paid for otherwise. Its literally just for the Deluxe edition. Calm down.

Where's the anti-lootboxes attack force on Overwatch's threads?

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Hiding because if you criticize Overwatch loot boxes you will get chewed the hell up.

 

[Deleted member 5535]

Disgusting and people eating this shit up ''nah it's not lootboxes it's different'' are even more disgusting

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Jesus Christ

 

[ShinUltramanJ]

As long as you can outright buy all of the cosmetics there's no issue here.

But your polka dot gloves, and I'll win whatever from air lifts.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Disgusting and people eating this shit up ''nah it's not lootboxes it's different'' are even more disgusting

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Unless you know what an airlift is in Battlefield V I think you're overreacting.

 

[Sargerus]

Overreaction the thread.

 

[Goose Se7en]

We did away with collateralized debt obligations, but we have a new product called bespoke tranche opportunities.

fucking EA.

I'm totally ok with it, if it's for cosmetics only.

 

[ThatMeanScene]

I think these 'Airlifts' are still loot boxes. There's an incentive to pay for the Airlift subscription so a player can try to get every item or at the least the items they like best (like the rarer items) instead of paying for the individual items (which are likely to be costly on their own). This is still a mechanism that preys on people with obsessive tendencies.

Unless the individual items are $1 - which would be extremely cheap and would make the Airlifts trivial - I won't see this as anything but another attempt to prey on people.

 

[spam musubi]

This type of conclusion jumping outrage should stay on reddit where it belongs.

 

[Deleted member 300]

so where was the outrages on lootboxes wen call of duty added loot boxes during the week ea patched theres out of battlefront2 ?

that month was dire but most of it was aimed at ea when other devs got away for free, you then have bungie doing there bullshit in destiny 2

 

[texhnolyze]

 

[Van Bur3n]

Doesn't seem as drastic as Battlefront 2's case, from what little information we're going by. Especially since it is cosmetic.

 

[Dphex]

coming soon: Forklifts

 

[Rodjer]

"Jump to conclusions" thread.

 

[Trigonometrize]

Airlift and lootbox both have seven letters

 

[KORNdog]

So they're offering you two different ways to acquire the same item? If that's the case, I don't see the problem.

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Yup. If this is how it's going to work this is all fine to me. If people want to waste money gambling for cosmetic items when they can just buy it outright for less...well...who am I to stop them. Lol.

 

[KingM]

It could be a set item every week similar to the Battlepass model FortNite uses. Week one is a camo hat, week 2 a unicorn gun grip, week 3 a rainbow afro, etc. Which is different than a randomized lootbox.

 

[GranddadFreeman]

you will be subscribing for weekly item drops that will give you some customization stuff at random.

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I'd like more info on this. As others have said though, as long as you can buy any of them outright, not much of a problem here. Honestly, if there's not duplicates, (lol) then the sub thing would actually be a decent idea.

 

[Alpende]

I really don't care how they monetize cosmetics as long as maps and stuff are free it's all good

 

[Heckler456]

"Jump to conclusions" thread.

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Gotta get on that outrage train right quick.

Are the paid slot machine boxes? Because that was what made lootboxes unacceptable, right?

 

[Nintendo]

Those propaganda posters people make to shit on companies. Yeesh.

Just wait for clarification from them before jumping to conclusion.