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Love Boat 3 Mafia |OT| This time it's Bearsonal
- Thread starter The Bear
- Start date
Are you really all that afraid of a Bomb? Yeah, it sucks to die, but you'll go to spec, laugh along with everyone in there, and then the rest of us will handle it from there.
The fact that Vere won't vote almost does seem like it is a Bomb though, unless he's just fucking with everyone because he's Scum. Either way he looks like Scum here lol.
The fact that Vere won't vote almost does seem like it is a Bomb though, unless he's just fucking with everyone because he's Scum. Either way he looks like Scum here lol.
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==== DAY 3 VOTES ====
Day Start - Day End
Pirate Bae & malus (14 votes)
Dr. Monkey -
#3,157
#3,952
Vincent Alexander -
#3,162
#4,023
Stuart444 -
#3,164
Terraforce -
#3,222
rac -
#3,385
Fantomas -
#3,481
Natiko -
#3,572
CoolestSpot -
#3,605
Zippedpinhead -
#3,902
Fat4All -
#3,950
Vincent Alexander -
#4,023
Dr. Monkey -
#4,038
empressdonna -
#4,050
Funky Dude Sparks -
#4,053
Geno -
#3,959
Xbro -
#4,095
Fantomas & Zippedpinhead (1 votes)
Reki -
#3,205
Verelios & Apollo (1 votes)
TheChuggernaut -
#3,404
Geno & Funky Dude Sparks (1 votes)
malus -
#3,935
SkyOdin & TheChuggernaut (0 votes)
empressdonna -
#3,170
#4,050
Dr. Monkey & Stuart444 (0 votes)
Fantomas -
#3,148
#3,481
Geno -
#3,155
#3,959
Funky Dude Sparks -
#3,199
#4,053
Kyanrute & empressdonna (0 votes)
malus -
#3,915
#3,935
Not voting: SkyOdin, Apollo, Stantastic, absolutbro, Lone_Prodigy, Pirate Bae, Verelios, Kyanrute, flatearthpandas
Post Counts:
Dr. Monkey: 143 Fantomas: 102 Stuart444: 86 Kyanrute: 69 Geno: 66 Fat4All: 52 TheChuggernaut: 51 Vincent Alexander: 45 Verelios: 37 CoolestSpot: 33 empressdonna: 32 Natiko: 31 Reki: 27 Terraforce: 23 SkyOdin: 22 flatearthpandas: 19 Funky Dude Sparks: 19 rac: 17 malus: 17 Pirate Bae: 16 Stantastic: 13 Zippedpinhead: 12 Xbro: 10 Apollo: 6 absolutbro: 2 Lone_Prodigy: 1
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Day Start - Day End
Pirate Bae & malus (14 votes)
#3,157
#3,952
#3,162
#4,023
Stuart444 -
#3,164
Terraforce -
#3,222
rac -
#3,385
Fantomas -
#3,481
Natiko -
#3,572
CoolestSpot -
#3,605
Zippedpinhead -
#3,902
Fat4All -
#3,950
Vincent Alexander -
#4,023
Dr. Monkey -
#4,038
empressdonna -
#4,050
Funky Dude Sparks -
#4,053
Geno -
#3,959
Xbro -
#4,095
Fantomas & Zippedpinhead (1 votes)
Reki -
#3,205
Verelios & Apollo (1 votes)
TheChuggernaut -
#3,404
Geno & Funky Dude Sparks (1 votes)
malus -
#3,935
SkyOdin & TheChuggernaut (0 votes)
#3,170
#4,050
Dr. Monkey & Stuart444 (0 votes)
#3,148
#3,481
#3,155
#3,959
#3,199
#4,053
Kyanrute & empressdonna (0 votes)
#3,915
#3,935
Not voting: SkyOdin, Apollo, Stantastic, absolutbro, Lone_Prodigy, Pirate Bae, Verelios, Kyanrute, flatearthpandas
Post Counts:
Dr. Monkey: 143 Fantomas: 102 Stuart444: 86 Kyanrute: 69 Geno: 66 Fat4All: 52 TheChuggernaut: 51 Vincent Alexander: 45 Verelios: 37 CoolestSpot: 33 empressdonna: 32 Natiko: 31 Reki: 27 Terraforce: 23 SkyOdin: 22 flatearthpandas: 19 Funky Dude Sparks: 19 rac: 17 malus: 17 Pirate Bae: 16 Stantastic: 13 Zippedpinhead: 12 Xbro: 10 Apollo: 6 absolutbro: 2 Lone_Prodigy: 1
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Day 4
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Geno has died!
Funky Dude Sparks has died!
Day 4 Begins
Majority is 12
Day ends in:
Still Alive:
Verelios and Apollo
Fat4All and absolutbro
Natiko and Terraforce
Dr. Monkey and Stuart444
rac and Vincent Alexander
CoolestSpot and Lone_Prodigy
SkyOdin and TheChuggernaut
Xbro and Reki
Stantastic and flatearthpandas
Zippedpinhead and Fantomas
Kyanrute and empressdonna
Alright let's get started here.
vote: Dr. Monkey
It's rather convenient that the two shot role cop was lynched on day 3, after the role was effectively useless. Why throw Pirate Malus out instead? Maybe Bae had some things IRL she needed to take care of, and figured you'd be better suited to handle the late game stuff. Maybe you have a better role than they did and it was that important that the role was saved.
It's especially convenient that the entire lynch completely drew attention away from a lynch on yourself. Something you realized was likely to happen without intervention.
It did a stand up job considering we were getting posts like this during the day:
So what happened? Bae pulled off the same gambit she pulled off in MafiEra, only this time there was a twist. The goal was to make it seem like the same gambit done twice, then come in with a new element to make it fresh and make it work. In this case the other scum mates would expose the ploy and come out better because of it. The only way to make this work was to make it obvious that the play was going on. So there were breadcrumbs.
Day 2 comes along, in the middle of the argument with Sorian, when giving reads outside of that argument, you throw some shade onto the play as a whole to set up for the next day. Something Sorian called out. Which it's funny that you were conscious enough of a post Sorian made on the side(didn't even quote or mention you mind you) to mention it in your initial call out post of the gambit.
Here's a problem though. Bae was pulled into the gossip chat night 1. After coming back, the entire scum team knew who the gossipers were. They also knew that they were town. So what happens when Sorian starts to claim that the usage of the role was scummy? The Dr. Stuart boat completely disregard his arguments on the subject, getting super defensive about everything about it. Meanwhile Kyan goes in there and makes a defense that actually makes sense, taking into account Sorian's arguments and putting it into the perspective of someone who didn't quite 'catch' the investigator bread crumbs.
Then when Day 3 comes along, they remain defensive about the entire issue, despite being 100% certain that Pirate Malus is scum, and therefore scum already knows who the thieves are. To tie the entire knot on that situation, Stuart was the one who revealed Kyan and Donna. A few posts later, he makes an explanation that they figured it out. That really should have been in the post itself.
This pattern of disregarding Sorian's arguments doesn't necessarily end there though. There was one post in particular where Sorian laid out a list of reasons he was scum reading Dr. Stuart. Instead of responding to the post though, Monkey decides that Stuart's completely unrelated questions should be sufficient, successfully drawing attention away from the post.
Fantomas you have a word document on your desktop titled "Monkey is Scum". Are you really going to backtrack on that because you think some of Monkey's day 3 posts are town monkey? Need I remind everyone of Marvel, where the only reason Fandorin was caught was because the meta of the game could only be consistent if he was scum? People can act town. That's the point of the game Mafia. Monkey has a tag that says "Mafia MVP"
vote: Dr. Monkey
It's rather convenient that the two shot role cop was lynched on day 3, after the role was effectively useless. Why throw Pirate Malus out instead? Maybe Bae had some things IRL she needed to take care of, and figured you'd be better suited to handle the late game stuff. Maybe you have a better role than they did and it was that important that the role was saved.
It's especially convenient that the entire lynch completely drew attention away from a lynch on yourself. Something you realized was likely to happen without intervention.
It did a stand up job considering we were getting posts like this during the day:
So what happened? Bae pulled off the same gambit she pulled off in MafiEra, only this time there was a twist. The goal was to make it seem like the same gambit done twice, then come in with a new element to make it fresh and make it work. In this case the other scum mates would expose the ploy and come out better because of it. The only way to make this work was to make it obvious that the play was going on. So there were breadcrumbs.
Day 2 comes along, in the middle of the argument with Sorian, when giving reads outside of that argument, you throw some shade onto the play as a whole to set up for the next day. Something Sorian called out. Which it's funny that you were conscious enough of a post Sorian made on the side(didn't even quote or mention you mind you) to mention it in your initial call out post of the gambit.
Here's a problem though. Bae was pulled into the gossip chat night 1. After coming back, the entire scum team knew who the gossipers were. They also knew that they were town. So what happens when Sorian starts to claim that the usage of the role was scummy? The Dr. Stuart boat completely disregard his arguments on the subject, getting super defensive about everything about it. Meanwhile Kyan goes in there and makes a defense that actually makes sense, taking into account Sorian's arguments and putting it into the perspective of someone who didn't quite 'catch' the investigator bread crumbs.
Then when Day 3 comes along, they remain defensive about the entire issue, despite being 100% certain that Pirate Malus is scum, and therefore scum already knows who the thieves are. To tie the entire knot on that situation, Stuart was the one who revealed Kyan and Donna. A few posts later, he makes an explanation that they figured it out. That really should have been in the post itself.
This pattern of disregarding Sorian's arguments doesn't necessarily end there though. There was one post in particular where Sorian laid out a list of reasons he was scum reading Dr. Stuart. Instead of responding to the post though, Monkey decides that Stuart's completely unrelated questions should be sufficient, successfully drawing attention away from the post.
Fantomas you have a word document on your desktop titled "Monkey is Scum". Are you really going to backtrack on that because you think some of Monkey's day 3 posts are town monkey? Need I remind everyone of Marvel, where the only reason Fandorin was caught was because the meta of the game could only be consistent if he was scum? People can act town. That's the point of the game Mafia. Monkey has a tag that says "Mafia MVP"
vote: Verelios
I'm sure Xbro's won't be the only conspiracy theory we'll hear today but I really can't understand why anyone wouldn't vote Verelios after the latter half of the last phase.
Geno was townread but not one of the semi-confirmeds, but I guess it was his testimony that kinda put the lid on the Baelus coffin so maybe that explains that?
I'm sure Xbro's won't be the only conspiracy theory we'll hear today but I really can't understand why anyone wouldn't vote Verelios after the latter half of the last phase.
Geno was townread but not one of the semi-confirmeds, but I guess it was his testimony that kinda put the lid on the Baelus coffin so maybe that explains that?
Thanks for explaining why you killed him.
Kill Geno
Frame it as We killed him because he would have gone for us
????
Lunch the people who lunched a 'cop'
Are you claiming to scum read me?
Then let's hear it. I don't have many posts, so I'll wait for you to go through them.
This is what I call the "Monkey's Grand Scum Plan" world, and it only makes sense if some others in the PoE start flipping Town.
In other words, I'm not interested in going down that road today.
Then is it fair to say this chain of posts with you says it all?
I'm not the one who stated the exact reason you killed Geno here.
I already did, at least.
I also find it almost charming that this is the first case you've really put up all game. You do some excellent semantic work there. Lots of loaded phrasing.
I mean, I'm biased, but... yeah. This.
The gamestate points to a very small PoE. By all means, put us in it. Town still wins. The end.
This is the most engaged you've been the whole game and it happens just after scum died.
hmm 🤔
I like to think my play would've been a lot better in regards to Bae yesterday if I were scum and knew their alignment, and frankly using that to attack me is pretty telling. In no world do I not only not bus Baelus, but am unsure from day start to day end. That's straight lunacy.
Welp, it is so obvious what the scum plan is here, it's like a huge flashing neon sign and I for one am not going to fall for it.
Vote: Verelios
Vote: Verelios
I would love to hear you explain anything you did last phase.
Difference is, I know what I am. I've never claimed to engage, nor have I encouraged it. Stop trying to redirect the conversation.
If Dr.Stu flips scum then I sincerely believe Fantipped should also be looked at. Their flip on Dr.Stu from D1 to now has been anything but surprising.
It's great that you dismiss this as a conspiracy theory, when you literally just "uncovered" one in the previous phase.
VOTE: absolutbro
I didn't have a ton of time free this weekend.
But I did look back at votes. Go back and look at Day 1 again. With Baelus confirmed as scum and knowing how quick they were to take a risk to avoid that scum lynch look at the vote stack on Kitlor again. Guess who was there? Bae and Malus. Guess who else was there? Vere and Apollo. And of course Tybro were (which is ultimately NAI in and of itself). I think my original conclusions about who all the suspect parties where on the kitslor vote, but I think the premise looks even more sound in hindsight. I think the AbsolutFat flip solidifies Verello as scum and locks up the game. If there's four scum I would look at either SkyChugger (role could be scum, one vote on Tybro but the other off elsewhere to ensure Kitslor got voted out) or FEP/Stan (Again - one vote on Tybro and the other not cast, to be more precise it was on Kitslor and then unvoted which is what makes me lean a bit more towards SkyChugg for the fourth).
I didn't have a ton of time free this weekend.
I went to a DMX concert in the sketchiest venue I've ever been to. They can't even secure a liquor license. DMX didn't show up until like 10:30. It was a night - let me tell you.
But I did look back at votes. Go back and look at Day 1 again. With Baelus confirmed as scum and knowing how quick they were to take a risk to avoid that scum lynch look at the vote stack on Kitlor again. Guess who was there? Bae and Malus. Guess who else was there? Vere and Apollo. And of course Tybro were (which is ultimately NAI in and of itself). I think my original conclusions about who all the suspect parties where on the kitslor vote, but I think the premise looks even more sound in hindsight. I think the AbsolutFat flip solidifies Verello as scum and locks up the game. If there's four scum I would look at either SkyChugger (role could be scum, one vote on Tybro but the other off elsewhere to ensure Kitslor got voted out) or FEP/Stan (Again - one vote on Tybro and the other not cast, to be more precise it was on Kitslor and then unvoted which is what makes me lean a bit more towards SkyChugg for the fourth).
Donna, I believe you and Kyan are town. Look back at yesterday and tell me if any of my actions make sense as scum.
So, I've gotta go do all that regular early evening stuff. I really hope we actually hear from Apollo today and that she has more than just SkyChuggs to talk about. I also really do want to hear from Verelios, but we should also go back through his posts because there are a lot of inconsistent reads and that may help. I'm not really a fan of chain-lunches so I'm happy to open here but also to look at connections. rac, looks like you just brought Vere up, too.
The difference is I had evidence to support my unpacking of a theory (which I did not uncover, by the way, only supported) and you have construction. You want me to red-pen your post? I'll be back in a few hours and I'll be happy to.
You seem very certain of this. Where's your vote? I see nothing but confidence that I'm scum here. Why do you yield the vote? Monkey had no trouble jumping into the day with a vere voteYou do know what you are.
Oh, and yes me and Zipped received a message last night. It was a recipe for something to do with flamin hot Cheetos lol.