Lttp: Guys, I think there's something wrong with me - Metroid Other M

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I'm really enjoying my time with this game.

What is wrong with me?

Even with the complaints, some of them I thought were fugging stupid, I can't see how this is considered a bad game in any way, shape or form.

What is wrong with me?

I like how it controls strangely, adds a different layer of execution when you need it most.

I'm about to get to sector 3 and I can see myself trying to 100% this thing.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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It's not a bad game, just goes against many of the franchise's most famous staples, and certain elements are embarrassingly chauvinistic.
 

The Woods

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey, you can totally have fun with the game. Honestly, its pretty enjoyable to play (with maybe the exception of the pixel hunts), i just found it to be rather misguided as to what Metroid tries to accomplish as a franchise, as an idea. The greater majority, and i mean, by far the greater majority of the complaints came from the narrative side of things and the character assassination of Samus and how chauvinistic a lot of its tone can be. If it was the exact same game in a different franchise with a tweaked narrative, it'd be a pretty well accepted game.
 

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There is nothing wrong with being against the popular opinion, Skyward Sword was my favorite Zelda up until some time ago. You don't have to dislike what everyone else dislikes, so by enjoying this game there's nothing wrong with you, quite the contrary, it's great that you can find enjoyment in it.
 

Amiibola

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Oct 29, 2017
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Leaving Samus' treatment aside, i always found complaints about this game to be nonsense. It was just a scapegoat because muh metroid prime by retro

It also originated a trend of blaming everything on Sakamoto. At least on the communities i used to be in back then, Fusion and Zero Mission retroatively became bad games, and it was Sakamoto's fault.

Fuck, even nowadays a blogger i follow keeps spitting that Sakamoto nonsense, going as far as to theorize that Sylux will be the main character of Metroid Prime 4 because Sakamoto don't want Tanabe to touch his Samus
 

Betty

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think making Samus have this personality quirk is one of the most embarrassing ideas anyone's ever come up with and is enough to ruin the game for me.
 

CaviarMeths

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nah, there's nothing wrong with you. A lot of people hate it, and I see their reasons why and don't even disagree, but I had fun with it too. Samus's characterization and voice acting are bad, I won't even defend that, but I loved the fast, snappy gameplay and melee mechanics.

Needs a skip cutscene button if it ever gets an HD remaster. Also get rid of the "find the pixel" sequences and just show me wtf I'm supposed to be looking at.
 

eXistor

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Oct 27, 2017
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Completely seperated from all other Metroids, it's a servicable game. In context however, it's a crime against humanity; it goes against everything Metroid is about.

Leaving Samus' treatment aside, i always found complaints about this game to be nonsense. It was just a scapegoat because muh metroid prime by retro
Rubbish. Play Super Metroid and tell me Other M compares. If you can't tell the difference I don't know what to tell you.
 

Amiibola

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Oct 29, 2017
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it goes against everything Metroid is about
Not more than Prime 3 Corruption does really.

Rubbish. Play Super Metroid and tell me Other M compares. If you can't tell the difference I don't know what to tell you.
Implying that i haven't already played every single Metroid in existence.

If you want Super Metroid play Super Metroid. Every series has the right to make some changes every once in a while, permanent or not. If you were a Castlevania fan you'd became bald from the hair pulling when Symphonyof the Night got released.
 

kami_sama

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Oct 26, 2017
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I thought the gameplay was very good, leaving the pixel hunts aside (I still remember being stuck for like 15 minutes on one screen), the issue is that the story was a dumpster fire.
I know that story is not the most important thing to a metroid game, but damn if it didn't make me like the game less.
 

Jobbs

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Oct 25, 2017
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The game is an abomination. If you tasked a team of scientists with identifying every single thing fans of the original games liked about them, and then got each of those things wrong in the most heinous way possible, from both a gameplay and story perspective, you couldn't come up with a game more offensive than Other M.

But if you like it, you like it. Hopefully Nintendo doesn't make any more games in this series that you like. :p
 

eXistor

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Oct 27, 2017
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Not more than Prime 3 Corruption does really.
Also one of the worst Metroids, so you would be correct about that. And before you comment: yes Fusion also goes against a lot Metroid should be about as does Samus Returns. Honestly there's only a handful of Metroids (at most) that actually get it right.
 

WyLD iNk

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Oct 27, 2017
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Here, duh.
Nothing wrong with you at all. In fact, I recall a poll conducted at GAF showed that more people (there, anyway) were "for" it than "against".

I had fun with it.
 

Zomba13

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Oct 25, 2017
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The gameplay itself isn't offensive. It's a fine on Metroid in a 3D space. The worst bit with the gameplay is the stupid pixel hunt sections. The story and characters and what it does to Samus though are terrible. It's horrendously bad. And yeah, you don't go to Metroid for the story, but if you were to add a story focus to Metroid you don't add this story.

Plus that bullshit about having a man tell you when you can or can't use your heat protection WHEN YOUR IN A LAVA ZONE! Shit got me so mad. I don't care if Adam is Samus boyfriend or father figure or whatever the fuck, you don't let anyone not let you use your fucking thermal protection. How the fuck does that interfere with mission parameters? She doesn't use her fucking thermal protection to blow holes in space stations! She uses it to protect her from extreme heat! The heat that is KILLING HER RIGHT NOW!

Jesus, just thinking about that shit gets me more mad than videogames ever should.
 

mindsale

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Oct 29, 2017
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Oh man, I just remembered her panic attack when fighting Ridley and her droning, melodramatic soliloquies about "the baby."
 

Ehoavash

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Oct 28, 2017
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Story is garbage beside that the gameplay was pretty fun and also the game is pretty easy, which is why it's the only metroid game I ever beat LOL

All the other metroid games I usually got stuck on and never picked back up like prime or super
 

Amiibola

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Oct 29, 2017
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Honestly there's only a handful of Metroids (at most) that actually get it right.
And what's getting it right? Repeating tha same formula over and over again until it gets tired?

There's two things that can kill series: That and rabid fans that can't accept the slightest change

I guess Metroid is Doomed either way...

as does Samus Returns
So i guess the second Metroid ever developed got it wrong too. Series wasn't even established then

Sorry but i have to call bs on that.
 

Pancakes R Us

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Oct 27, 2017
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Don't worry, OP. It's fine to enjoy it. I thought the game was fine except for the following:

- narrative was dull and boring
- point to shoot missiles
- would have preferred a nunchuck and wiimote setup
- silly pixel hunts
- those forced behind the shoulder slow walking sections. What was the point?

Outside of the above, I thought the actually gameplay translated well for a third person Metroid.
 

Fredrik

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Oct 27, 2017
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When other games in the serie competes against each other on the Best Games of All Time list then an okay game in the same serie instantly becomes bad.

I enjoyed it too btw, should probably replay it now that I got reminded of it.

And I would honestly be interested in Other M 2 as well (as long as it doesn't slow down the development of other games in the serie).
 

Mhj

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Oct 30, 2017
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I might not be a good/suitable Metroid game, but ignoring that I have fond memories of playing and beating it.
 

Aostia82

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm really enjoying my time with this game.

What is wrong with me?

Even with the complaints, some of them I thought were fugging stupid, I can't see how this is considered a bad game in any way, shape or form.

What is wrong with me?

I like how it controls strangely, adds a different layer of execution when you need it most.

I'm about to get to sector 3 and I can see myself trying to 100% this thing.

I didn't like it as a metroid game but I loved it as an action game
 

Boiled Goose

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Nov 2, 2017
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The game is not unplayable garbage.
I finished it and there were bits of enjoyment here and there.

Overall though, I still hated it.

The characterization of Samus and Adam is so bad it basically taints the whole experience. Without that one scene it would go from hated to meh. It's extremely sexist, outdated, tropey characterization. Designers said they wanted to give samus personality, so what do they do? They make her bawl like a fucking child as a perfectly stoic Adam sacrifices himself. It's hot cringe garbage.

The game itself is not great either though. The level design is mediocre. The psuedo linear nature is bizarre. The controls are not good. The combat is repetitive. The pixel hunting is horrible.

If this wasn't metroid after the prime series, it wouldn't be hated so much.
 
Nov 19, 2017
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I'm really enjoying my time with this game.
What is wrong with me?
Even with the complaints, some of them I thought were fugging stupid, I can't see how this is considered a bad game in any way, shape or form.
What is wrong with me?
I like how it controls strangely, adds a different layer of execution when you need it most.
I'm about to get to sector 3 and I can see myself trying to 100% this thing.
The game is good. Not a thing wrong with liking a good game. Sure, I get how some people hate it, but I played through the entire game before I ever heard any criticism on the game and I didn't even mind the "acting" in the game. I even had fun and got really good at switching from 2D mode to 3D mode.
Fun game. :D
 

score01

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Oct 27, 2017
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Maybe I was just Metroid starved at the time, I can see some of the complaints about the story and canon but I found the game solid.
 

Ninjadom

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Oct 25, 2017
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The game is fine and there were many loud over-reactions which still can be heard today.

Fast 60fps gameplay, good action. Story is a bit odd.

Shame Team Ninja never took the action in Other M to the high levels of Ninja Gaiden or Bayonetta. But they started out as being pure action games. Even so, Platinum managed to do Metal Gear Revengeance justice.

So yeah, Other M is an okay game and I had no real issue with it.
 

Raijinto

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Oct 28, 2017
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I found the gameplay to be on-par or even better at times to Prime, which I played and really enjoyed at a similar time. The story, characters, the nonsense authorisation system and several bizarre parts (slow walking, find the thing to proceed, the ending in general) all bring it down but it's still a good game.
 

Sphinx

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Nov 29, 2017
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Other M is not a bad game , generally speaking, there is fun to be had and it's not unpolished.

Other M's 1st problem is basically the Metroid Primes, it had a lot to live up to and it failed so hard at it.

.- Compared to the super AAA that were the primes, Other M feels and looks cheap as fuck, it manages to look worse than the primes in a next gen console (!!!)
.- Depiction of Samus is what people didn't want from it. All dialogues and interventions are poorly presented.
.- Environments were incredibly boring and butt ugly. when you had jaw dropping spaces like Phendrana Drifts, Sanctuary Fortress or Elysia areas in your series, you just can't fail on this front.
-. it should have been a handheld game for 3DS from the beginning, it had no business being a console game, nobody cared for pointing to shoot missiles, and they wanted to low-budget it.

it's a very solid 8/10 game as is, it's a fucking piss poor 5/10 entry in the Metroid universe.
 

Protome

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really enjoyed Other M but had some major issues for me like

- The story is really really bad.
- Switching to first person for shooting missiles is awful, just truly truly awful and makes some of the later sections really annoying to play.
- It's super easy.

I still had a lot of fun with it though. The hate around it is largely hyperbole because of how bad the story was I think.
 

bottledfox

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Oct 28, 2017
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If they designed with the remote + Nunchuck control configuration instead of what we got, I might've really liked Other M. The story is stupid as hell, but it wouldn't sting that much if the gameplay was actually up to par with Team Ninja's other games.
 

Treasure Silvergun

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Heh, I liked it too. It's a really unremarkable game and using the Wii's D-Pad for the whole thing gave me blisters, but I enjoyed my time with it. Sure, the story is a mess and there's debatable stuff, but the core mechanics were fun enough.
 
Nov 4, 2017
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I thought it was awesome. One of the best looking games on Wii. Playing Samus with the mix of 2D and 3D felt extremely fresh to me. I like it better than any of the Prime games.
 

R_thanatos

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's an OK game with a REALLY bad story and some weird changes to the formula that i didn't like but i'm glad i've tried.

It's ok to like it as a side dish
 

GeekyDad

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Nov 11, 2017
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Yeah, it's not a bad game, just a poorly presented game. It probably would have been accepted better had Nintendo released it as a portable game and marketed it as something other than a canon Metroid game. It's a fun game for what it is, setting aside the poorly written justifications for withholding Samus' abilities throughout the game. But putting it on a home console I think put too much expectation of it considering how it plays.
 

DanteLinkX

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Oct 27, 2017
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I absolutely love other m, from graphics/art, to music, to gameplay. Only thing I would change is put a conventional control and thats already possible via emulation.
 

Razor Mom

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Jan 2, 2018
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I enjoyed my time with it, but yeah I feel they messed Samus up a deal. The vibe in general when it came to characters just didn't feel right to me. But mechanically, aside from a few things, it was solid!