What's to misunderstand? I asked you to provide an objective measure of misogyny, which it appears you have not done, preferring instead to kick at strawmen. Your assumption here that I have an issue with sexy characters or equate sexiness with misogyny is false; this isn't something I said, and further, it's not something I think. You're not arguing here with The Feminist Collective, but rather discussing with an individual; please don't put words in my mouth. My points—and I listed several—was that Quiet indeed exhibited a litany of poor design decisions that fall within bounds of established grounds of misogyny. Would you like to discuss those assertions?
I wonder who's offended here - me, as you say, or you, as you seem to feel I'm calling everyone a misogynist? There's a difference, you see, between doing a thing and being a thing. I'm not saying "Kojima is a misogynist." I don't know Kojima, nor his motivations or intentions. What I said was that Quiet, to the measure I established, is grounded in misogyny. Perhaps this is splitting hairs for you, but I think we need to be able to talk about actions without applying labels. Misogynistic designs have long been a part of gaming, which is why I said that she comes from a tradition I've seen all my life: barriers of entry to women in gaming, a long documented and researched phenomenon. Nick Yee talks about it at length in his work on avatars, for instance. These moves are continually made by primarily male designers because, well, it's easier to continue to use tropes and to lean on stereotypes than it is to create fully fleshed out characters. Without criticism, designers have no reason to change these moves. Criticism, like failure, is part of how we learn and adjust.
Okay? I didn't say anything needed to be censored or banned. Are you sure you're talking to me? Am I constantly attacking, considering that was my first post in this thread? Have I spent every day since MGSV was released hollering from the hilltops that Quiet should be removed from the game, that Kojima should have been censured? I bought and played the game. Am I not entitled to my critical angle simply because you don't happen to agree?
And I've done this... where... exactly?
You seem rather upset about something, but I fail to see how most of it connects with anything I posted. Did you perhaps mix me up with another poster?
