Yes? The entire premise of the episode is about how sick society is, how we know no limits. Except, I don't think at all society would agree to this. I don't think it would come to this at all. It's not an accurate reflection of society. It would literally never come to this.
This feels like some sort of weird gotcha.
Woah, Pigs are incredibly intelligent animals who don't deserve to get raped
and in the episode there isn't even hacking, its a kidnapping
This wasn't someone close to him, it was some princess. So that Obama and his wife example is a pretty bad one. Would you have sex with a pig to save one of Donald Trump's kid? or Obama's kid?
I would definitely say they were both raped. I woudn't use the insane logic demonstrated ITT, i.e. "but he stuck it in!"
Oh I know. It presaged a real life situation.
haha, true. I just like the thought experiment though, how much humiliation and suffering you're willing to experience to 'do the right thing'.
so because it's satire, it's realistic?
heh now that is 100 page thread waiting to happen. Fucking Waldo.
Puhlease.
How can you be sure? How? You think society would let her die just like that? Say it was Lady Diana? Everybody is ok with her dying?
When I read your 'he was raped by a pig' post initially I though 'but he fucked the pig' and it was hard for me to think of the word rape when he was the one doing the fucking. He couldn't give proper consent considering the pressure he was under and I can't actually think of a better word to use in the situation though so you're right. He wasn't raped by the pig though, the pig didn't force itself on him. The best description might be they were both raped by the hackers with the staff playing a big part too? Idk
How childlishly pedantic. "You said BY a pig, not WITH a pig, therefore I refuse to discuss the topic at hand"
I didn't know the show was an anthology, so my first thought was "how the hell will they keep escalating the drama when you've got pig fucking in the first episode?"
Your ranting in this thread is complaining about how 'unrealistic' the episode is because society wouldn't react that way.
To dumb it down even further for you: you're not meant to take the story literally, because it's set in a heightened reality, a...black mirror reflection, if you will, of our society.
If you think someone should be raped to save another person's life, you're so far gone it's not even funny.
But people discuss the story literally all the fucking time. If you don't want to discuss the story literally, get out of the topic.
That's exactly why I immediately went to the technological analogy to this episode because that's what it means to me when someone asks if it's realistic or not. I didn't know we were talking about the dynamics of how/why someone would actually rape a pig.
All I'm getting is that you would be ok with being recorded and shown live having sex with a pig to save some stranger or an acquaintance at best. :[
How can we discuss anything when you've missed the point of the episode? It's like you watched The Naked Gun and scoffed at how detectives would never act that way. Your attitude in this thread is alarming to say the least.
i don't think anyone really considers black mirror a more or less realistic show than say the twilight zone. like i'm pretty sure people don't think you can be imprisoned in an egg or die in a brain vr game or bring your loved ones back from the dead as siri
Why not just edit your first post then? You short-circuited your own thread.
Lol it's obviously you who's being pedantic. This whole thread had been derailed because you're thrashing about arguing semantics.
Why wouldn't they? You get the right motivators and you can make anyone do anything. They did it with the PM by threats of party. I think you're thinking too hard about this. An argument can be made that political and social pressure are powerful tools in this day and age via social media. Like, you're thinking too hard about this. Harder than the PM.
Every response of his in this thread was about who is raping who when a man fucks a pig against his will.
This is 100% wrong. You can be coerced into rape. The right answer is that they were both raped.
I pointed out a fault in your reasoning about society's morality in regard to rape, and yet you cut out my entire post except for one sentence that had to do with your poor wording about who raped who when you quoted and responded to me. Interesting tactic.
Society lol
Yep I know, I posted a bit further up saying that. I reacted too quickly to the language 'he was raped by a pig' and posted without thinking everything through. My first post was stupid.
