You've got a pretty good Kill List.
Brazil, can ya refresh me with your shooty shooty bang bang list.
Brazil, can ya refresh me with your shooty shooty bang bang list.
Calling it a read is pretty generous, its more that i dont have much good i remember from him,
Can you elaborate on your position on terra?I'm fine with Stan or Brazil being leader, so I'll leave my vote here for now.
My kill list at the moment, with Terra as the most likely:
Terra
Ketkat
Fran
Flux
Zubz
CeeCee
I'd be fine with a few others, but these are the names that I can come up with initially.
On mobile (and lazy) to back after my posts, but besides playing too passively so far, he defended himself weirdly when malus brought attention to Shadow's weird vote for him right before subbing out, saying that a competent scum team would've told a newcomer to avoid making instant connections with another scummate. Later he also had a misunderstanding with Geno that read to me like he just trying to pad the conversation with fake content. Seems he's trying to lay low during D1 and I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum for it.Can you elaborate on your position on terra?
(or show me to where you already have because i totally read and remember it i swear)
Cheers boss.On mobile (and lazy) to back after my posts, but besides playing too passively so far, he defended himself weirdly when malus brought attention to Shadow's weird vote for him right before subbing out, saying that a competent scum team would've told a newcomer to avoid making instant connections with another scummate. Later he also had a misunderstanding with Geno that read to me like he just trying to pad the conversation with fake content. Seems he's trying to lay low during D1 and I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum for it.
Kawl has dropped out of the game
I'm looking for a replacement.
UNVOTE: StanleyPalmtree
My read on you wasn't only based on your vote that game, so that's not true, it was based on a number of posts you made during D1. But either way, it's just a meta read, and Monkey is right that I shouldn't hold much to it.Fantomas I've got the feeling of it being a little unfair comparison to put my middle of d1 me on this game against the n1 me of Brexit. For those who didn't play/spec Brexit, we got scum on D1 there and I was one of the breaking votes for getting the scum player lynched. Your easy town read was pure luck, I could have chosen to lynch coolest over ET and would had been your top scum on n1.
This said, I thought you were saying this from a place of dishonesty, but then realized maybe it's me being self conscious
Remind me again why are you supporting Bae? The most I remember of you saying about her is that both are friends and LiS fans
You know what, let's see where that goes
VOTE:Pirate Bae
As for reads I'm leaning town on malus and ketkat because it feels like they are easy targets, scum on rac and zubz.
I think this is basically where I am on Fran too. Sorry Chugg, I did read through your big post, but for now I'd probably take out Chugg first out of those two.Fran's in a sort of portal where I can see arguments for his lynch but considering how active he is, he can be found out with more day phases under our belt. It's a bigger risk to off him on day 1 and I'm not completely convinced he's scum.
I don't trust Pirate Bae, but she is reading rather townish to me here. I especially liked her reasoning on her town read on Kyan. I figure if she were to end up as the Leader, I'd get a better read on her through that process.
and only had a cameo in Heroes vs. Villains but won that game anyway
This is Fran saying he can change his mind on some of his reads from that list, but I'm thinking it's more of an excuse for when they start giving reads that Fran isn't down with.
Some players are good at giving reads early game with no info. Fran doesn't think he's one of them.
Fran, who is afraid of being leader because he doesn't think he makes good decisions early day is now completely confident that I'm scum.
Then we have some scum reading of Malus. Brazil already did a good job at pointing out some issues here, so I'll just quote him.
Fran, who is afraid of being leader because he doesn't think he makes good decisions early day is now completely confident that I'm scum.
Your point on Fran going from very wary of choosing a d1 target to hardening on you is a good one and is taken on board though.
This post is supposed to be where you take a stand, but it feels like a collection of random observations with no weight to them. It seems like you can't commit to anything. Maybe you trust Sorian, but maybe not. You want to hear from people who haven't said much, maybe because they're just catching up or maybe because they're scum. You find your Fantomas' reason for a vote weird, but you also understand it. You'll follow Sorian and Monkey, but hesitantly.Nobody else is screaming town, sadly. Maybe Sorian, but I haven't played enough games with Sorian to know any tells, & just know that Sorian's the towniest townie to ever town according to past conversations that I may or may not be misremembering.. I want to hear more from the quiet ones who just jumped in, since I'm assuming they're taking over from players who were idle because they were busy & not because they were Scum skirting by. I will say I find you trusting Pirate Bae so readily as odd, but I can understand how real life biases can play into who we vote for/against. That's how they get ya, though...
With Sorian & Dr. Monkey voting for Stanley Palmtree, I'm going to hesitantly trust their judgment.
VOTE: Stanley Palmtree
Please don't force things down people's throats.
Are your biggest reads really only people who were barely posting? Are you gonna post that list you said you were going to, or does this post cover it?
There are a few reasons why I am voting for Pirate Bae. Mostly it's a selfish reason where I feel like that is the one player I am going to personally have some problems trying to read, so getting an extra bit from putting her in as the leader would probably help me in the long run. Also, she has gone on record as saying she would treat the leader position the way that I also agree it should be treated. On top of that, I don't have a problem with any of the scum reads she has shared so far either.
Malus strikes me as town. He's been called out as posting a lot of stats and not much else as both scum and town, and his play here comes across as a genuine attempt to evolve his play style.
I'd typed his name down while coming up with the list above, but ended up deleting it. He's the next up, I guess, but I want to see what he comes up, since he's promised a read list before the end of the phase. He's made a lot of posts posturing over how he wants to go about the leader thing, and hasn't let up despite no one wanting to go for it. He's not cooperating. It doesn't feel good, but, frankly, Geno never feels good on D1.
Well, I'm all ears as for why I'm a bad candidate as well.Why does everyone want to vote Brazil? Am I missing something? He doesn't seem like a good candidate imo.
Jesus fuck i feel like Odysseus catching up on this thread, except instead of exciting dangers thrown at me by the god i just have you fucks harping on about fucking nothing holy shit like 10 pages and not a meaningful point was made.
That said i do suddenly have many supporters in my leadership campaign so i guess thats kinda like coming home to my loyal wife and son.
now to kill me some fuckin suitors
I had a few quotes collected but most of it has been resolved already so fuck that noise.
This is a fucking "NZ is full of sheep" joke aint it?
I do have more to say but its still too hot and my chair is still broken so imma need icecream before you get em.
The whole Sophia thing is a mess. So much pearl-clutching over what amounts essentially to a bunch of meta reads. Her posts around Blarg are weird, and the amount of people who jumped at that shade/vote combo smells of people grasping at low-hanging fruits. That's it. Going beyond that in an argument after Sophia was replaced and CeeCee clearly said he wouldn't be around seems like straight-up busy work.
This post is supposed to be where you take a stand, but it feels like a collection of random observations with no weight to them. It seems like you can't commit to anything. Maybe you trust Sorian, but maybe not. You want to hear from people who haven't said much, maybe because they're just catching up or maybe because they're scum. You find your Fantomas' reason for a vote weird, but you also understand it. You'll follow Sorian and Monkey, but hesitantly.
Show your face, Zubz.
Please don't force things down people's throats.
Are your biggest reads really only people who were barely posting? Are you gonna post that list you said you were going to, or does this post cover it?
Why does everyone want to vote Brazil? Am I missing something? He doesn't seem like a good candidate imo.
That's fair, and noted. My problem, however, was with how people went on and on about it at a time when we simply couldn't possibly get any answers with content like "My meta read invalidates your opposite meta read".I'd like to once again point out that the biggest issue with Sophia isn't the shade and then vote about face, that happened so quickly and is whatever because people like to do dumb shit for reactions. What was off was what she said with that shade. She knows better and pretending Blarg is scummy was a ridiculous pull for right there and that's some real busy work, I'm waiting for CeeCee but sub ins don't immediately make me just ignore what happened before.
That's fair, and noted. My problem, however, was with how people went on and on about it at a time when we simply couldn't possibly get any answers with content like "My meta read invalidates your opposite meta read".
Not no one, I have rac's vote too. It's the fairest way to solve this.I'd typed his name down while coming up with the list above, but ended up deleting it. He's the next up, I guess, but I want to see what he comes up, since he's promised a read list before the end of the phase. He's made a lot of posts posturing over how he wants to go about the leader thing, and hasn't let up despite no one wanting to go for it. He's not cooperating. It doesn't feel good, but, frankly, Geno never feels good on D1.
I'm neutral on you rn, not good but not bad either. Of course this is all hypothetical, I'm not voting anyone other than myself or anyone not willing to do my method.
Right, rac is still there. But while others have been weighing the possibilities left and right, you seem unwilling to budge. Which, to be fair, isn't uncharacteristic.Not no one, I have rac's vote too. It's the fairest way to solve this.
I'm neutral on you rn, not good but not bad either. Of course this is all hypothetical, I'm not voting anyone other than myself or anyone not willing to do my method.
Are your biggest reads really only people who were barely posting? Are you gonna post that list you said you were going to, or does this post cover it?
A leader who changes their mind often is not a good leader. A leader needs to have a goal they want to accomplish, and try their hardest to do that.Right, rac is still there. But while others have been weighing the possibilities left and right, you seem unwilling to budge. Which, to be fair, isn't uncharacteristic.
I never said it was a big list or anything, I don't know where you people are reading stuff I never wrote, I said I'd give you reads and I gave you my top scum a while ago, if you really want top town I'd go with Sorian, Stan and Fandorin.
Why does everyone want to vote Brazil? Am I missing something? He doesn't seem like a good candidate imo.
At the risk of skating full-tilt into pedantry here, "doesn't seem like a good candidate" is not a neutral stance. For once I understand folks' issues with wishy-washy posts - you have avoided taking a stance on anything and if pressed you walk things back to this gray space of ambiguity and maybe.I'm neutral on you rn, not good but not bad either. Of course this is all hypothetical, I'm not voting anyone other than myself or anyone not willing to do my method.
Okay, here at least is sort of a stance on something.I never said it was a big list or anything, I don't know where you people are reading stuff I never wrote, I said I'd give you reads and I gave you my top scum a while ago, if you really want top town I'd go with Sorian, Stan and Fandorin.
Also Zubz, I don't know how voting for yourself is the same as putting yourself in a list of reads. I've been thinking about that comment all day now and I don't like it at all.
I've been chewing over those Stan votes all night and I'm feeling like they are probably inoffensive. I don't like the sheeping for no good reason, but I don't think it's a terrible bad thing. I don't think mafia would do it if Stan was also mafia, at least, so it feels... grimy but fine? I dunno. But I'd like to hear more about what you think.No, it's me saying that if Flux is anything to go by, people are going to hop on the vote for you with little to no reasoning.
Sudden aggro Brazil has me thinking hard but I don't know how to read it yet, so I'd say I'm the same here.His kill list above is good, I'm just not convinced he's town so that's where my hang up is, he's not a bad candidate though.
I have taken a lot of stances actually, but you don't want to see them because you would rather focus on my other posts, but whatever. When someone says you are not a good candidate it means 2 things, either they are a bad candidate, or they are simply not good while not being bad either. I have no issue with Brazil currently, but I see a lot of people putting him in their lists and I wanted to see some explanations, a lot of people throw him out there without reasoning? Isn't it fair that I want to see why?At the risk of skating full-tilt into pedantry here, "doesn't seem like a good candidate" is not a neutral stance. For once I understand folks' issues with wishy-washy posts - you have avoided taking a stance on anything and if pressed you walk things back to this gray space of ambiguity and maybe.
If you have issue with Brazil, make a case. If you don't, then why say it? You had said earlier that you didn't think anyone was supporting your style for the vote - so if that's all the Brazil post was, what was the point of it?