[2/30]
Big post with what's on my mind right now and a full reads list.
First, some recent quotes.
Fantomas What happened with your read on me? Comparing your most recent list with the last you shared at D1.5, I went from Top Town to barely a null read, probably a lean scum one at that.
In your reads list today you elaborated on a few players, like Pirate Bae who went from null to scum, but no mention on me.
Scum are ordered by how much I want to see their flip, everything else is no particular order:
Town
Cabot
Natiko
Fandorin
Kyanrute
CeeCee - At worst, CeeCee is a Neutral with this day killing power. But that seems like a long shot read to me, and I do not believe this to be a Scum PR, which leads me to believe that he is Town as he says.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lean Town
Sorian
Faddy
Sawneeks - I've got good thoughts about her so far, she gave us her reads, she did her homework, she seems invested in the game and I'm looking forward to seeing more. I probably shouldn't be so quick to hand out a Lean Town though to a replacement taking over for a largely inactive spot as I've been burned there before, so I'll keep my eye on her.
Dr. Monkey - Monkey I'll always feel weird about Town reading since I know what she is capable of, but I see no reason to be suspicious here on D1.5. She's been very Townish with sharing her reads and thoughts, and helpful overall. (Which is exactly the kind of thing she would do as Scum though!)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Null
Brazil
Blargonaut
Pirate Bae
Fran
Fireblend
Rac
Malus
AbsolutBro
Terraforce - Since my previous read on him was largely meta based, I'm bumping him down here. I've also seen some decent reads from other players that I'm trusting in a bit more who seem to think not-so-good thoughts about Terra. I'll get a reread in on him soon.
Zubz - I've liked their engagement more on D1.5, but still want to see more from them. I'll move them to Null from a Lean Scum, but I got the feeling last night like they were coming to the party, but with a disguise on... Best analogy I can come up with, give me a break lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lean Scum
turmoil7
Felt a bit better about some of his posts today, enough that I wouldn't want to see him killed today.
Nin
Kawl replaced out, but was reading somewhat scummy to me. Nin is Nin and I will always keep him at a firm Lean Scum where he deserves to be until later when we need to lynch him for being too scummy. <3 In all seriousness though, Nin hasn't really done anything in the thread yet, so no reason to move this read anywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scum
KetKat
TheChuggernaut
FluxWaveZ
Geno
Well that's quite the modifier. Not very good for someone like me. I'll get my read list out and ramble for a little bit in my first post just to get the majority of my immediate thoughts into one post.
Ok here's my read list. Town and Scum is ordered from most to least (so bottom halves are more of a lean), Null is in no particular order.
Town:
cabot
CeeCee
Natiko
Faddy
Kyanrute
Sorian
Dr. Monkey
Null:
Zubz
Brazil
Blargonaut
Fran
Fireblend
FluxWaveZ
rac
malus
Fandorin
Sawneeks
AbsolutBro
Scum:
KetKat
TheChuggernaut
Pirate Bae
turmoil7
nin
I did have Geno at the bottom of my Scum list, but above Nin. Not too surprised to see him as the kill though I suppose, he seems like a generally low info kill target for Scum.
Right now, I would want to vote for Ketkat. The fact that this modifier is going to lock my first vote in for the rest of the day is giving me a little bit of pause from doing it right now, but I don't see a reason why I won't vote for Ketkat today because I wanted her gone yesterday.
Pirate Bae is on my Scum list now because I don't feel good about her. She's got some strange seemingly contradictory opinions over the course of D1 that don't add up well to me. I don't know if she's just out there winging it, or if she's trying to deliberately give obfuscated reads. Either way, she's definitely in my top Scum list now.
I gave a reread to Chuggernaut overnight and I still wasn't a fan of what I found. A lot of parroting, a lot of presenting other people's reads and agreeing with them but not coming up with his own reasoning.
[6/30]
Testing the BP and confirming it doesn't mean anything for Chuggs. If (for some reason) CeeCee IS Town then Scum having a BP makes perfect sense and would highly implicate Chuggs.
Myself and one other (may have been Fanto) noted how Geno was acting very sketchy the last Day Phase and how he may have been hiding something. With Scum knowing Geno wasn't one of them they could have easily interpreted that as him being a PR trying to stay alive.
Good point on possibly Scum! BP Chuggs. That totally slipped my mind but it's a very simples conclusion. Point is moot thought since we wouldn't know if CeeCee took a shot or not anyway.
But I wonder if Scum! Neeks would be this cheeky and outright explain her team's (flawed) reasoning for killing Geno so soon like this. Definitely not a good idea to go down this WIFOM road, so I'll leave it at that.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anyway, an actual reads list with what I have in mind and without going back to read posts from the players, ordered from towniest to scummiest, with comments on a few of them. Note that I hate giving out null readings - feels like I'm cheating and avoiding making my mind about someone. So I'll avoid that label altogether.
TOWN
Natiko - Reasonable, confrontational and not really pushy about his views. Natiko is my top town read at the moment. I feel like he's in the perfect spot for veteran good player, putting down his views clearly and being incisive about them but without being too on the nose about it. He's scum hunting without putting out busy work.
cabot
Sorian - Had a moment where I suspected him for hedging for Stan, but since he flipped Town I think I can put that behind me for now. Looks to be paying more attention to everyone and all topics of the thread. Picked this up as a town-sign of his, since he admittedly picks some players to ignore when scum, especially in big games such as these.
Faddy - Don't agree with a lot of his opinions, but I read him as a wholesome Town. Faddy can be a bit controversial and he's not quite there this game, but I like his inputs so far and his read on Brazil is interesting.
Dr. Monkey - This is probably her paranoia getting to me, but seems a bit fluffier than normal? Still, good insight and posts as always. Reminds me of a particular post by Monkey back at D1.5 about Flux that helped me form my read that I need to go back to later.
GREY ZONE OF MESS
Fran
CeeCee
Chuggernaut
I'll just put these 3 here.
Right now Fran is hard town to me (though I want to hear more from others on his turbo claim come day start with a Day Vig in plain sight with questionable alignment still alive). Chuggs is a mess, but I'm town reading him at the moment.
LEAN TOWN
Sawneeks
malus
Kyanrute
Fireblend
Blargonaut - I liked his true self shining through the shit-posting back when Stan hit the fan at D1.5. Hope we get to see more of that soon, since this read will drop down a lot if that doesn't happen today at D2.
Brazil - I planning an ISO on him soon so I can review and explain my thoughts on him and the potential Terra "link" I had in mind.
Fantomas
turmoil7 - Seems pretty sincere. I know from previous games that he loves balance talk and paying attention to breadcrumbs to try and solve the game, so I don't find his mention today all too strange. He's pretty contained this time around though so I want to see more today.
LEAN SCUM
Pirate Bae - A lot of what she posts don't seem to land anywhere, so I don't have a lasting impression on her views exactly. Could definitely see as scum skating by.
rac - Fantomas (?) said rac mentioned in a scum chat recently that he sucks playing scum. I could see a unmotivated Scum! rac in here not willing to post much and lurking here and there. Seems he's here to defend himself whenever people start pointing towards his direction. Will see later if I'm right on this.
Zubz - Same can be said here, get the feeling Zubz isn't really trying so far and they seem to always come in late for the conversation.
SCUM
FluxWaveZ - Flip flopping a bunch with a lot of defensive posts. Don't remember any instance when he was, without a doubt, scum hunting. I definitely need to ISO him to form an hard stance on this.
KetKat - Been playing weird since the very start. Most of the time inactive and not adding much to the discussion, with I believe zero aggressive playing. Hate it being the crux of my case on her, but I remember Ket making the towniest post ever back on Monopoly that completely turned the tables of that game and lead town to their hard fought win. I don't see any of that here.
WHO?
nin and AbsolutBro go here. I sincerely have no read on either of them and don't think we should bother voting here today, at least not now.
(GODDAMN I'M TIRED)