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Magic: the Gathering |OT| Ravnica Allegiance - These 5 Lands Will SHOCK You!

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Oct 27, 2017
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Well, after all the hype around here I went ahead and bought the ultra-budget gates deck. My first time buying a whole deck as singles outright. Looking forward to messing around with that with my friend next week.

P.S. A whole lot of this thread sure is Arena, huh? I guess it would be counter to discussion to segregate Arena talk to its OT, but sure feels weird bouncing between the two threads and getting basically the same conversations
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Burlington, NC
Well, after all the hype around here I went ahead and bought the ultra-budget gates deck. My first time buying a whole deck as singles outright. Looking forward to messing around with that with my friend next week.

P.S. A whole lot of this thread sure is Arena, huh? I guess it would be counter to discussion to segregate Arena talk to its OT, but sure feels weird bouncing between the two threads and getting basically the same conversations
I blame AG because he talks about Arena a lot.
 
Nov 9, 2017
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I mean the same conversations happen in Arena and paper Magic threads because they're the same game if you play Standard.

It's not like people didn't talk about MTGO in here before, it was just proportionately less because proportionately fewer people play MTGO.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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On second thought I think it's fine and kind of redundant that there's an Arena thread on the gaming side.

It's a heavily played and streamed video game now, so, I dunno. Maybe there should be one thread and it should JUST be on the gaming side.

Or don't listen to me because I'm not a mod haha
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So, I'm guessing Lyra is going to drop in price heavily once she's out of standard, yeah? Because I'm considering some sort of angel commander deck, but I could probably deal with the hit of her not being in it for a bit in order to save some money...

On a related note: Checklands are rotating out, but are pretty evergreen in use. Any point to waiting on those, or are they probably going to maintain their value?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Burlington, NC
So, I'm guessing Lyra is going to drop in price heavily once she's out of standard, yeah? Because I'm considering some sort of angel commander deck, but I could probably deal with the hit of her not being in it for a bit in order to save some money...

On a related note: Checklands are rotating out, but are pretty evergreen in use. Any point to waiting on those, or are they probably going to maintain their value?
EDH wants baneslayers

Check out this crazy game I just had

RW Exalted vs. Bant Tokens



This is game 2, he sideboarded in ALL removal, basically had to play the waiting game of topdeck mode, where he topdecked Shalai, Trostani, History after History, Baffling End x4, Conclave, all just to stop me and Exaltation, where the last topdeck he did was Lyra and I tribunal'd it away for good. Literally held at 1 with the timer and then gave up peacefully.

It was an amazing battle
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Are you honestly surprised that jank brews can't get over 50% winrates?
More like the part where burn gets 70% at the same time. Pushed cards are getting too much. Or maybe they always were, and it's just Arena giving everyone the volume of games where it becomes evident.

P.S. A whole lot of this thread sure is Arena, huh? I guess it would be counter to discussion to segregate Arena talk to its OT, but sure feels weird bouncing between the two threads and getting basically the same conversations
I didn't know that thread was still alive.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Hands up if you've played more games of paper Magic in the past six months than games on Arena.
*Raises hand*

I basically only use Arena to test out my janky-as-fuck ideas to see if they're remotely playable/competitive before I bother building them in paper magic.
 
Hasbro 2018 Q4 earnings report
Hasbro earnings are out for Q4. The gaming revision took a beating and was down 22% but Magic and D&D were up for the quarter and the year so everything else must be dragging them down. We won’t get exact numbers for MTG but they specifically called out Magic revenues as helping offset Hasbro’s increases in spending in 2018 so they must be doing pretty good. So just as expected, WOTC is one of the only entities that is currently profitable while the rest of Hasbro is a dumpster fire.
 
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Just in case anyone was still under the false impression that paper magic had any place in the pro magic scene going forward.

We've had a name change! This account is still the place for competitive Magic content, including the Magic Pro League and Mythic Championship series. Can't wait to see you all for #2019MC1 at #MTGCleveland in two weeks on http://twitch.tv/magic !
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's interesting to see times changing after I finally get into Magic for the first time. It doesn't affect me since I'm almost exclusively a digital player, but I wonder how the two sides will coexist going forwards.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's interesting to see times changing after I finally get into Magic for the first time. It doesn't affect me since I'm almost exclusively a digital player, but I wonder how the two sides will coexist going forwards.
It'll widen the gap of the kitchen table players even further. Pro players will probably be forced to go digital or quit.
 
Nov 9, 2017
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So, I'm guessing Lyra is going to drop in price heavily once she's out of standard, yeah? Because I'm considering some sort of angel commander deck, but I could probably deal with the hit of her not being in it for a bit in order to save some money...

On a related note: Checklands are rotating out, but are pretty evergreen in use. Any point to waiting on those, or are they probably going to maintain their value?
Lyra will drop, yeah. She doesn't have much of a home anywhere else.

Checklands have been printed a billion times and will continue to be printed back into Standard, barring something massively unforeseen. Their price might fluctuate very slightly on rotation, but probably not enough to be worth the time you're going to spend watching the price tracker. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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So... this commander seems like the kind of thing that could have some interesting combos and synergy, but glancing at the sample deck it seems the person just used it to enable bird tribal as a thing instead which seems... odd. Got plenty of other options I'm looking at anyway, but yeah...

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/commander-derevi-empyrial-tactician-65917#paper
The commander used to be among the best years ago. People just ran hardcore stax with her untapping and avoidance of the commander tax to break the symmetry. She’s pretty hated at most tables still for that.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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I think WotC should've made more effort to become an esport before announcing that name change. Currently Arena has no infrastructure to support pro-level tournaments and there is no schedule for any competitive content on their other platforms.

edit: I can already imagine the coders given a month or two to implement that functionality, poor bastards.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I think WotC should've made more effort to become an esport before announcing that name change. Currently Arena has no infrastructure to support pro-level tournaments and there is no schedule for any competitive content on their other platforms.

edit: I can already imagine the coders given a month or two to implement that functionality, poor bastards.
One of the reasons they greenlit Arena in the first place was because they wanted it to be an esports platform. I'm pretty sure they've already got tournament functionality up and running.
 
Nov 9, 2017
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I'm kind of enjoying Legion Warboss + Priest of Forgotten Gods + Judith, even if it doesn't really cleanly answer all the stupid Wilderness Reclamation and Teferi Control decks running wild or even mono-red for that matter.
 

QFNS

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Oct 26, 2017
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Been watching the SCG Tour stream today and a player has proxies for Nexus of Fate in his deck. Is that allowed? I would figure that they'd require you to actually have the cards to use them.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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circulo-dorado asked: Is the black enchantment removal hypothetical a “this is really just a fancy but it’s something we think about from time to time” or is it more “we have had serious discussions about this and are curious what player reactions would be?”
It’s something we’ve talked seriously about.

February 09, 2019

captainnv asked: I rather like Black's willingness to use dangerous enchantments (Demonic Pact, Triskaidekaphobia) without easy answers if things go wrong.
Any black enchantment removal probably wouldn’t destroy its own enchantments.

February 09, 2019

For context, MaRo mentioned I think a week ago that R&D has been discussing whether enchantment destruction should be in a third color, and black has been the most likely candidate.
 
Nov 9, 2017
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Imperfected Here's my Mardu Hero list:

https://deckbox.org/sets/2250927

It's pretty damn fun. Heroic is just such a beating.
I pulled out of Mardu into just straight Rakdos because I'd rather have the speed to sometimes roll over the Reclamation combo and Tefire control decks than have the midrange to slug it out with Krasus. It's one of those deals where given the choice, I'll take fast games over the format's slow decks over winning a roughly equal number of mid-length games against the fair decks and dying of old age fighting the durdles.

Probably the reason mono-red's over-represented on Arena. Better to live fast and die young than win consistently with a deck that takes an hour to cross the finish line.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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This Drive to Work podcast about direct damage mentions that they consider black dealing damage to players (instead of making them lose life) a failure, around 11:20. It added too much text to common black effects, players didn't like it, and it make black spells feel too similar to red spells. He isn't sure when they stopped using this, so it's possible we'll see more of these cards in War of the Spark. That is to say, instead of cards like



We'll get this cards like these again



(Just talking ability, not card power)
 

Angry Grimace

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Sultai Krasis wins an awful lot in BO3 for me. Arena players are kinda clueless on sideboarding. If you have a specific plan for deck types you can just own everyone. I don’t think I have literally ever lost to a Teferi deck in BO3 with it.

Mono Blue and Gates are dicey as fuck though.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Just got back into magic after selling all my cards 25 years ago -_- Friend made me a deck for Christmas and it sucked me right back in. I'm a strictly paper magic player as I'm a console pleb so I'm with the paper players!!! :) I got excited and bought 3 Mythic Edition Ravnica so now I'm just sitting on two looking silly. But I do love the fancy foils and mythic cards now. So many cards to catch up on, feeling overwhelmed at times.

Edit: spelling error
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Welp, finally pulled the trigger and sold my old Bayou and Tropical Island plus 1 Teferi to fund some commander stuff... and then went more than a little overboard buying extra stuff, but whatever, it's my rare splurging on Magic. Going from just having the modified Cat commander precon to adding on Angels and Merfolk, plus Karametra and Sigarda Heron's Grace (aka human tribal, mostly). Planning on grabbing a few bits and bobs with rotation still, though (Resplendent Angel and Lyra Dawnbringer, plus Jadelight Ranger which I imagine will especially drop in price), plus that's likely when I'll go ahead and build Dino commander.

Also, went kinda crazy and just grabbed all the angels and merfolk that I liked the look of and/or figured would be useful. Which fortunately, the ones I was mainly just buying for art were largely pretty cheap. But yeah, net question is... any particularly good options for binders or whatever for my cards I'm not actively using? I especially remember when I was a kid, I had trouble with the pages always having the damn cards slide out really easily...
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Arena format rotation is annoying. IMO they should always have a queue for each major format. I like playing sealed, and it’s not always available. I had gold to burn this weekend and wanted to spend it on ranked draft and I couldn’t find it. Maybe I just missed it, but that’s a different issue - the way events are presented is kind of crummy, the two standard / advanced tabs seem pretty random.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Arena format rotation is annoying. IMO they should always have a queue for each major format. I like playing sealed, and it’s not always available. I had gold to burn this weekend and wanted to spend it on ranked draft and I couldn’t find it. Maybe I just missed it, but that’s a different issue - the way events are presented is kind of crummy, the two standard / advanced tabs seem pretty random.
Yeah ranked draft had been up. The best way is to click advanced, then click play. You'll see a list of all formats.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This Drive to Work podcast about direct damage mentions that they consider black dealing damage to players (instead of making them lose life) a failure, around 11:20. It added too much text to common black effects, players didn't like it, and it make black spells feel too similar to red spells. He isn't sure when they stopped using this, so it's possible we'll see more of these cards in War of the Spark. That is to say, instead of cards like



We'll get this cards like these again



(Just talking ability, not card power)
Great!

In other news, I love this deck so much. Need suggestions for what to board in against control. I've currently got two Detection Towers in the board to beat out Hexproof, but curious what else I should add.

White
4 Ajani's Welcome
4 Healer's Hawk
4 Leonin Vanguard
4 Adanto Vanguard
4 Ajani's Pridemate
2 Dawn of Hope

Black
2 Font of Agonies
3 Nightmare's Thirst
2 Arguel's Blood Fast

Orzhov
2 Consecrate // Consume
2 Revival // Revenge
4 Mortify Artifact
3 Fountain of Renewal

Land
7 Plains
6 Swamp
3 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Arena format rotation is annoying. IMO they should always have a queue for each major format. I like playing sealed, and it’s not always available. I had gold to burn this weekend and wanted to spend it on ranked draft and I couldn’t find it. Maybe I just missed it, but that’s a different issue - the way events are presented is kind of crummy, the two standard / advanced tabs seem pretty random.
The way Arena lists things actually sucks. They do a really poor job of explaining what the formats actually are and what they do.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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New Survey, focusing on how much you spend on various products, where you buy them, your favorite formats, etc
https://t.co/l3pKrvrPWB
Funny, Alpha Investments is one of the 9 content creators they have as an option for "what Podcasts/Livestreams/Youtubers do you watch"
 
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