This seems playable in a Stompy list, if not amazing. The white one could still be junk though, lol.
This is the first card from the set I'll actually play in EDH.
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Magic: The Gathering |OT| Throne of Eldraine - Will and Rowan's Excellent Adventure
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This is the first card from the set I'll actually play in EDH.
Realm-Cloaked Giant
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Unless Giant tribal turns out to be a thing, then a 5-mana wrath that draws a card (that's always a 7-mana 7/7 vigilance creature) seems pretty good.
That's a really interesting upside on a 5CC wrath. I just don't know if any deck that wants a wrath would ever want to tap out at sorcery speed for a vanilla beater, no matter how big it was.
Unless Giant tribal turns out to be a thing, then a 5-mana wrath that draws a card (that's always a 7-mana 7/7 vigilance creature) seems pretty good.
I guess this is what we're all praying for at pre-release?
I think that the giant could definitely see Standard play as a Control finisher. There are likely going to be lots of decks (like anything not playing black or Oko) that just don't have any hope of permanently removing a 7/7, and even then it's still a Wrath that gives you a big beater you can threaten to cast from exile later on and maybe tie up their removal. Vigilance is pretty relevant text on this kind of creature too. Maybe you don't make this your only way to win the game, but it can give you another win condition without costing a card slot. Also, cool art on this guy, both versions. Love the idea of a giant literally wearing the terrain.
Really? It seems alright in 2 color green decks, but I'm certainly not excited by it.
I think it'll slot well into my Selvala deck. Definitely didn't mean to imply it'll be some kind of auto include though.
One thing I appreciate about Magic is that for basically any card, there will always be someone saying "This would be perfect for my ~ EDH deck".
Can they please print a hate card that deals with late-game Agent of Treachery bullshit? PLEASE?
Or Tale's End, or Lazotep Plating, but both of those can be clunky. I guess Veil of Summer if you're in green, other colors you are screwed.
Good thing there's no 1 mana white enchantment that kills storm dead.
The wrath is top tier, a free threat that doesn't take up room is incredible for control. It's not unusual to have a lot of mana and no proactive plays to make.
Now if only we could get a good counterspell, there should be one left but as long as Teferi is in Standard we may have to settle for Mystical Dispute...
Now if only we could get a good counterspell, there should be one left but as long as Teferi is in Standard we may have to settle for Mystical Dispute...
Those rare lands look really powerful to me.
Finkel for me, more consistent finishes and a lifetime winrate 1-2 percentage points higher. The pros seem to see him as a level above even the other great players, as well: like I think Kai might even say he considers Finkel a better player.
For anyone who hasn't seen it, MTG Elo Project has done great work compiling some of these stats.
Finkel for me, more consistent finishes and a lifetime winrate 1-2 percentage points higher. The pros seem to see him as a level above even the other great players, as well: like I think Kai might even say he considers Finkel a better player.
For anyone who hasn't seen it, MTG Elo Project has done great work compiling some of these stats.
Whew I could not have been more off on those lands lol
The red one looks deceptively good. Its not a big effect but when you have 3-4 1/1s that extra power suddenly becomes so much more relevant. Green is good in ramp decks if thats a thing in standard, and the black I would see having more use in EDH than anywhere.
That wrath spell is super weird and why god why is it mythic???
The red one looks deceptively good. Its not a big effect but when you have 3-4 1/1s that extra power suddenly becomes so much more relevant. Green is good in ramp decks if thats a thing in standard, and the black I would see having more use in EDH than anywhere.
That wrath spell is super weird and why god why is it mythic???
not all games involve drawing perfectly or normally
there are so many times you get to low life and opponents draw 1 threat and you don't draw the answer. maybe you draw a land. maybe you draw a counterspell or discard spell the turn after. maybe you draw a removal that doesn't hit that particular threat. having a random card in your exile zone that can both block stuff and attack a planeswalker is good.
and there's the huge upside of opposing duress not being able to deal with it. feels like wotc repeats the same mistake of making duress a bad card. between torrential gearhulk, nexus of fate, and this sorcery (whose type is creature), these spell-based decks have been on easy mode
i don't know if it's enough to be a true win condition for do-nothing control because it can just die to removal, but combining this with some planeswalkers will make it easier to end games (and more importantly, faster).
competition these days these is much much more fierce so it's gotta be someone like PV, Shuhei or maybe LSV
Mysterious Pathlighter; Syr Faren, the Hengehammer
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Some parasitic mechanics are fine, especially when, like you mentioned, these cards are aimed solely for Limited.
Castle Ardenvale
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CARDNAME enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a Plains.
Tap: Add W.
2WW, Tap: Create a white 1/1 Human creature token.
Really good.
CARDNAME enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a Plains.
Tap: Add W.
2WW, Tap: Create a white 1/1 Human creature token.
Really good.
Straight into ephara. No questions.
This is much more an argument against Kai than Finkel imo, Finkel still puts up great winrates.
Do people really think Esper will still work like it does now when it's missing 3 checks?
I saw someone else mention Esper a few pages back and I'm like what Esper?
...there you go. This is the kind of win condition Control really wants. Nobody wants to pay 7 mana at sorcery speed for a 7/7 vanilla. You would much rather pay 5 mana at instant speed for 1/1 vanilla that's attached to a land.
(Obviously if that Giant is the best viable wrath you're not going to turn it down, but that certainly isn't going to be your gameplan)
The mana bases are about to get awful. No replacement dual land cycle is one of the most impactful changes in the new set.
Esper might still be around if the format is slow enough that the life gain lands don't cripple you too much, but I think people are going to have to work on UB or UW instead.
Esper might still be around if the format is slow enough that the life gain lands don't cripple you too much, but I think people are going to have to work on UB or UW instead.
People seem to be playing it in the Arena 2020 Standard event and it's still working out most of the time. Mana is definitely more shaky but it's not impossible. Shards are definitely in a worse spot than wedges with only one relevant temple though, that's for sure. I think a control deck like Esper that gets to run like all of the sweepers may still be able to make it work.
esper midrange (eg. hero of precinct one) has ok mana
esper control (narsets & kaya's wrath) loses much more
new white land might revive this jank if you liked it:
esper control (narsets & kaya's wrath) loses much more
new white land might revive this jank if you liked it:
Lucky Clover; Fortifying Provisions; Giant's Skewer
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Though restricted to Adventures, this is free spell copying for 2.
Limited Food cards. I like the skewer.
Garenbrig Carver
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Neither half is particularly efficient, but it's quite flexible. Seems like a card you would never cut but won't be drafting highly.
God, generic fantasy Dwarves are so fucking boring.
Despite the great art on many of the cards in Throne of Eldraine, it feels like the modern nadir of the game's world building.
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Shepherd of the Flock
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Callback flavor text?
Seems good. It can rebuy adventures, in addition to saving your stuff.
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I think both were just going for a generic statement.Callback flavor text?
Was thinking that since Blessed Spirit's flavor text got a really strong response from the player base, but you're probably right.
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