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Magic: the Gathering |OT| War of the Spark - Enter the Bo-Las (36 Planeswalkers)
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It would be for casual play. Just wondering if what's in the set would make a cohesive set but I'll keep those in mind. Thanks.
MH1 - Unsettled Mariner; Gilded Light; Krosan Tusker
Unsettled Mariner is interesting. Could go into Humans or Slivers (can't imagine Merfolk want to add another color). Curious to see if they'll print any more powerful changelings like that.
MH1 - Mirrodin Besieged; Magmatic Sinkhole; Geomancer's Gambit; Universal Automaton; Faerie Seer; Reap the Past; Ephemerate; Defile
Edit: Beat me by seconds above, so I'll just leave this one.
Here's a list of cards that share a name with the name of a set, courtesy of Reddit:
Here's a list of cards that share a name with the name of a set, courtesy of Reddit:
- Apocalypse
- Conflux
- Conspiracy
- Future Sight
- Hour of Devastation
- Onslaught
- Planar Chaos
- Prophecy
- Time Spiral
- Torment
- Weatherlight
- Morningtide
- Mirrodin Beseiged
Redundancy is nice and it can hold the spot in the deck until MH2 and the "reimagining" of Crystalline Sliver
MH1 - Mind Rake; Smiting Helix
1.) I would have guessed that "Mind Rake" was used already
2.) This is a design that they would never print in a normal set nowadays but totally could have been a common in the 2000s
3.) Overall, a really cool skill tester/fun design
Very illustrative of the fact that this effect is either B or RW, depending on how you name/flavor it
He's out.
For gold cards, we have 2 more spaces. One starts with R and the other is R-T. There could be a third gold card, but it'd have to start with "Aa" through "Abo" and that seems very limited.
I don't know how many more rares/mythics are left.
I think the most interesting thing not crunched out is Cabal Coffers. Or, for EDH, Grim Tutor.
MH1 - Marit Lage's Slumber
I think this is the last rare?
That strictly worse Thalia isn't making it in Humans, I don't know if anywhere.
Smiting Helix is interesting as a teaching tool.
It's also a bad card. Like a four Mana sorcery speed lightning helix MIGHT be playable in this limited format but you're highly unlikely to flash it back so that's all it ever will be. I don't think there are any (good or halfway decent) red/white self Mill decks that can put this into the graveyard for free.
It's also a bad card. Like a four Mana sorcery speed lightning helix MIGHT be playable in this limited format but you're highly unlikely to flash it back so that's all it ever will be. I don't think there are any (good or halfway decent) red/white self Mill decks that can put this into the graveyard for free.
Double Lightning Helix is not bad, especially not in limited. The flashback is a bonus on an already playable spell.
MH1 - Watcher for Tomorrow
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Really neat seeing Hideaway on a non-land.
Article explaining many of the references
And here are the tokens
MH1 - Urza's Rage
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This set has a "Poochie" problem with the new cards. Reprints being de-emphasized so that the cards R&D created would be the focus in the FIRST EVER SET TO BRING CARDS TO MODERN OUTSIDE OF STANDARD is something that screams "creative ownership ego at work", where the new shinies your team has invested in creating are valued above the reliable old standbys you didn't have a role in.
I don't like the card in Mardu Pyromancer. It costs too much to hard cast it for Modern and discarding a flashback spell is only a thing that the deck does sometimes, it's not the primary plan. I think the card is powerful only if you put it into the graveyard straight from the library. Like if Dredge started pushing more into white for some reason it would be fine.
But you are unlikely to have the manabase to support it is the issue. You would need a primary black deck that's splashing for the third color. And I don't think a free lightning helix is necessarily worth splashing for on it's own. Maybe you stick in one off-color land and SOMETIMES have the Mana to flash it back but most of the time it will just be a four Mana sorcery speed lightning helix.
Multicolor ramp/control decks have been really common in these Masters sets; I'd expect there to be a strong 4/5c green deck that is actively interested in casting and flashing this back. Think it'll be a higher priority for those decks than for a more aggressive BR shell to want to splash it.
Sure. But most of the cards people would love and demand would be format-warping and overall far too strong. So from a design standpoint, ego aside, it makes more sense to design your own cards at the appropriate power level and find another way to tie it in with Magic's history.
I'm not talking about the format-warping ones though. I argued against Counterspell before spoilers were out.
But there are plenty of cool non-format warping ones in Invasion/Odyssey/Onslaught that could slot right in. Pernicious Deed. Undermine. But they were deliberately not putting high profile splashy old cards in the set because well, let the words speak for themselves.
They fundamentally didn't understand what players would be expecting from the "first set to ever put cards directly into Modern".
MH1 - Soulherder; Thornado; Wall of Blossoms
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I mean if that's the metric we're using, then they did put in old cards like that.
Forgot only the white version of Wall of Blossoms (Wall of Omens) is in Modern.
If the pitch for the set wasn't "A set that will reprint cards into the modern format that weren't previously legal while including new cards designed for the format", and instead "a 250 card set that is legal for modern that is mostly new cards, with some cards being reprints that will now be legal in the format", I feel like I would appreciate this set more.
This feels more like a cross between a Conspiracy-style set without any of the gimmicks and being legal for modern, and "what if instead of doing Commander decks this year, we did the set as a booster expansion"
This feels more like a cross between a Conspiracy-style set without any of the gimmicks and being legal for modern, and "what if instead of doing Commander decks this year, we did the set as a booster expansion"
MH1 - Rotwidow Pack
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They did, but they're massively overshadowed by the new cards, and some of them (Hi, Cabal Therapist) are just bad navelgazing that shouldn't be in the set.
It almost certainly is. The issue is that Cabal Therapist is bad and exists solely to make a joke when it could be an actual reprint that won't be in the dollar bin. Who's the audience for this card? EDH doesn't want it. Modern Spike doesn't want it, it's bad. Modern Timmy doesn't want it, it's not impactful. Modern Johnny....has better things to occupy his time.
Just look at Invasion/Odyssey/Onslaught black rares
Balthor the Defiled
Bane of the Living
Braids, Cabal Minion
Chainer, Dementia Master
Decaying Soil
Desolation Angel
Desperate ResearchDiabolic Intent
Entomb
Grinning Demon
Ichorid
Mortal Kombat
...and that's only from the first 60 cards in the search.
There are so many options for interesting cards that aren't stupid injokes.
Chris Clay leaving Wizards
Chris Clay, Game Director for Arena, is leaving WotC:
When did Wizards ever imply that this was primarily a reprint set?
All the content creators went bonkers over what stuff they could reprint but literally the first two cards they showed off were brand new, one of which was Serra which was more about flavor and history than any real Modern playability.
MH1 - Phantom Ninja; Throatseeker; Ninja of the New Moon; Moonblade Shinobi
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When the pitch is "for the first time, cards are coming directly to modern!" and there are reprints, the reprints being deliberately de-emphasized to showcase injoke nostalgia designs is not what players are going to expect.
The pitch of the set was "Time Spiral 2." The "new cards to modern" part was just an afterthought since it was an idea that had been tossed around plenty in the past. It's clear why the marketing people would want to emphasize the latter over the former, but in design they were clearly more interested in making a 'normal' set with tons of new, exciting cards.
This was the internal pitch.
This was not how it was pitched when announced.
The disconnect is a big problem.
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