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Major terrorist (white supremacist) attack in Christchurch (NZ) [UP6: 4 suspects in custody, 50 confirmed dead] (READ THREADMARKS)
- Thread starter Trevelyon
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Christchurch is not New York or London or Chicago. It's a city of only 400,000 people in a country where gun violence is non-existent. We do not have the same resources to expect and rapidly respond to mass shootings, because they simply don't happen here.
Nope, freedom of speech man. However should there be measures taken to ensure public sites are monitored for terrorist plottings, of course. But no there should be no legal power to stop sites that do not contain illegal materials from existing.
Don't beat yourself up about it. It's only because you live in a relatively free, immigrant-friendly and cosmopolitan country that you get opportunistic wankers like that.
Technically, he wasn't elected (In fact he got 19 first preference votes), when the person who was elected was deemed ineligible, he got given the job
Unbelievable.
This is an elected Australian Senator....
Un-fucking-believable.
Within hours of the incident, he's blaming 40 victims for their deaths.
From the time he opens fire to the time he gets in his car is like six minutes. In a peaceful country where officers are not expected to deal with AR wielding lunatics, I wouldn't expect them to show up in that amount of time. There are several people just milling about outside after the shooting has happened, and a few more are killed as a result. I don't expect many people to know what gunfire sounds like, especially when it's muffled indoors. No one knows at what point a call went out for help.
There's video of them ramming the shooter with the Subaru off the road and arresting him. I don't think the police are at fault here, most of those people were dead within two minutes.
I hope he is out as soon as possible, really grinds my gears how people like him just Breed homegrown acts of terror, and are still socially accepted enough to be in power.
That Fraser Anning statement is appalling. I'm ashamed to live in Queensland with trash like that representing the country. What a monstrously fucked thing to say.
I wish peace of mind and safety to you and anyone else who are going to prayers tomorrow and in the future.
*hug/comfort*
basically he was 3rd on the one nation (amazingly, the less racist option here) ticket and the guy above him got booted for being english and not declaring it (it was a thing) so he got in by default on pauline hanson's coattails. he then immediately quit the party and went independent. afaik he only had 19 first preference votes.
Good insight. Definitely not blaming the police however I feel like they should do a better job of scouring places like 8chan.
I sincerely hope this brings about change to go after these racist cowards.
yeah this, nz police have pistols in the boot of their cars, not on their person. The assault rifles unless things have changed will require a sgt with a "key" to unlock for deployment.
Nz not been cool with officers of the law gunning down citizens, so weapons aren't strictly part of everyday uniform.
It's not from the government, it's from a Senator who isn't a member of any political party because he's too much of a piece of shit even for the far right who were initially willing to have him.
There are two things to consider here. Australia's federal senate uses a very complicated system of transferable preferences which means people can end up being elected despite receiving very small proportions of the vote. Secondly, Anning wasn't elected, but took the spot of a different member of his former party who was barred from serving.
There's lots of racism in Australia and the far right is certainly resurgent. But it's the same as it is in the US, UK, Europe, Canada etc... they're posting on a lot of the same sites, listening to a lot of the same people. Anning isn't evidence that there's something special about Australia in this regard. Similarly, that Australia is very likely to have a left-wing government soon isn't evidence that the symptoms that led to Trump, or Brexit, aren't present.
Well, Queensland, but see above (and DrSlek's post).
Freedom of speech doesn't extend to hate speech. the toxicity of 4chan is directly responsible for this terrorist attack and it should be deplatformed.
This is an elected Australian Senator....
This is easily the most vile thing I've read from a modern politician. Not even "both sides" argument. Just straight up racism and bigotry.
A CNN reporter who said she'd watched the video just walked through the whole thing, and it was just gut-wrenching to listen to. It apparently ends with the shooter pausing to allow pedestrians through a crosswalk.
Social media needs to be held accountable for the stuff the allow to be streamed live and content shared. There won't ever crack down on anything unless they start to face actual consequences for their actions. It'd be nearly impossible to fully rein in grey web sites like the chans, but the big tech companies you can regulate.
Social media needs to be held accountable for the stuff the allow to be streamed live and content shared. There won't ever crack down on anything unless they start to face actual consequences for their actions. It'd be nearly impossible to fully rein in grey web sites like the chans, but the big tech companies you can regulate.
Saw footage that was playing on the news (obviously didn't show anything too graphic).
That rifle he was using and all those shots. WHAT THE FUCK.
how did he even get access to that?
Apparently he spent 2 years planning a terror attack and 3 months this attack when he moved to NZ.
How did they capture him?
That rifle he was using and all those shots. WHAT THE FUCK.
how did he even get access to that?
Apparently he spent 2 years planning a terror attack and 3 months this attack when he moved to NZ.
How did they capture him?
So the shooter got caught alive, right?
I think that's interesting. If he died, he would have become an idol like Eliott Rodger. But if he's alive, there is time to show his allies how pathetic it is to do such a thing. And I'm glad that a shitty manifesto and a 8chan post aren't the last words we'll hear from him. I'm not a fan of people dying, but dying on that note in particular would be extremely pathetic.
I think that's interesting. If he died, he would have become an idol like Eliott Rodger. But if he's alive, there is time to show his allies how pathetic it is to do such a thing. And I'm glad that a shitty manifesto and a 8chan post aren't the last words we'll hear from him. I'm not a fan of people dying, but dying on that note in particular would be extremely pathetic.
This is an elected Australian Senator....
This is fucking vile
I've read a few people didn't know what it was when this was first starting. Had auto-play videos on twitter turned on and were horrified as a result. There may be some who want to see; but others were just surprised, shocked and unprepared due to that.
Goddamn this world is depressing. Live streams taking the lives of 40 innocent people. How do you even stop this? Shit is hopeless. RIP to all the victims :(
Fucking vile cunt.
This is an elected Australian Senator....
I figured yes... my mind just can't accept that someone would cheer this whole thing on. I just don't wanna believe it.
You wouldn't want to see it anyway but I believe this thread covered the original thread on 8ch was wiped as they are trying to save face but honestly go to ANY youtube twitter thread and see what people are saying, hell go look at the US presidents twitter linked to Breitbart and see what the comments say.
Yeah the more I look into this Fraser Anning guy the more I suspect this is all trolling for attention. Don't give him the time of day.
imagine a lot of the MGS3 salute image being used.
This is an elected Australian Senator....
God damn, this dude makes the GOP in US look a bit more respectable somehow
Somebody shoot him and do the world a favor
Edit: oh I see hes a troll with very little sway in politics there
I'm terrified. There are a ton of children in the masjids during school breaks and women also come in larger numbers during breaks and it's clear that these psychos don't discriminate when it comes to women and children. But our mosque is pretty good about hiring police who stand guard during high tension times. But i still feel so scared. It's 2AM and I can't stop thinking of descriptions of the video coupled with the horrible comment sections on breitbart.
User Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying hate speech.
I mean if it's direct advocation then yeah I agree shut at least a section of 4chan down until it can be restructured. However people should be allowed to have hateful views and express them as long as they are not directly advocating violence, and that applies to the internet aswell.
Video of his arrest below, no gore or anything.
what a tone deaf respond
This is an elected Australian Senator....