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Major terrorist (white supremacist) attack in Christchurch (NZ) [UP6: 4 suspects in custody, 50 confirmed dead] (READ THREADMARKS)

Krejlooc

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Can we put to bed once and for all the debate on whether the OK sign is now a white supremacist symbol? Because it fucking is.

maybe he was playing a game to punch your dick huuuuuurrrr

EDIT: Oh god people are unironically doing it already. Reappropriation, in MY white nationalist symbolism?? It's more likely than you think!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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You mean that symbol he's making with his hands?

I thought that meant "fucking delicious." Like I've literally only seen people do that when trying to describe their food while their mouth is already full.

Interesting to find out it has this other sinister use.
It means OK.

As I understand it, the story goes that alt right types decided to own the libs by saying the OK sign was a symbol of white supremacy, thus making said libs look stupid when they got upset whenever they saw someone using it.

They then proceeded to use it in that context to the point that it took off among white supremacists.

Now the OK sign is used by some as an actual symbol of white supremacy. Whatever trolling was inherent in the usage has fallen away.

edit: Yup.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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We thankfully already have very strict gun laws. NZ laws are very lax compared to Australia.
I agree, but I hope we are proactive about reviewing them. I'm not up to date on them myself (having no association with guns) but I can bet conservatives have been fiddling with them since they came into effect.
 
Jul 26, 2018
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Yeah, most people will associate with the circle game and not white power bullshit. But its definitely easy to tell based on how shit of a person they are.
Yeah context is important. I have seen some people argue that using the ok sign emoji means you support white supremacy, which I find silly. But in many cases it is blantatly a white power symbol.
 
May 30, 2018
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Everytime a white Supremacists throws out the OK symbol we get a discussion of if it's supremacist

Unreal

At this point you'd have to be willfully ignorant to not know what they say with it

You can argue all you want about "not letting them co-opt that symbol" but that's Besides the point

They intentionally picked the OK sign because it's subtle enough and widespread enough that they can hide when called out for it

They want discussion to derail from the main issue at hand
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Can we put to bed once and for all the debate on whether the OK sign is now a white supremacist symbol? Because it fucking is.

Edit: I fucked up - I’m way off on this. I apologize. I had never heard of this symbol being used other reasons until today. I meant no disrespect and should of done some research before making my original post.
 
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"I can tell you one thing right now. Our gun laws will change." - Jacinda Ardern

Thank you Jacinda. A stark contrast to the tired "thoughts and prayers" and "now is not the time to talk politics" deflection of US politicians and commentators.

As an American, it is refreshing to see a proper governmental response to a tragedy like this.
 

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He's doing the circles thing because MEMES.

He said "Subscribe to Pewdiepie" because MEMES.

He shot up a mosque because MEMES.

None of it is actual white nationalism, guys, it's just rand0m sp0rk of D00M!!!!1! MEMES.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This is an OK sign.
it's the same symbol, pointed down. being handcuffed he can't exactly do the upright symbol even if he wanted to, but since he's a chan nazi, safe to say that was the intent.



Can we put to bed once and for all the debate on whether the OK sign is now a white supremacist symbol? Because it fucking is.
It is, but not in any sort of useful identifying way. If you see a known very online white supremacist or alt-right figure conspicuously making the OK sign in a posed photo: yeah, that's a callback to the OK=WP chan troll meme. The problem comes when you try to figure out if some rando making an OK gesture is secretly signaling their support for white supremacy since it's widely used by non-nazis.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Has there been any more information on the other suspects who were arrested and what their involvement in this was?

The problem comes when you try to figure out if some rando making an OK gesture is secretly signaling their support for white supremacy since it's widely used by non-nazis.
That was surely the goal of co-opting it.
 
Nov 27, 2018
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has anyone pinpointed down where this guys life went wrong? School? Parents? Anything that would make someone want to die so he could kill people?

Though usually the commit suicide and this loon didn’t? So he was prepared for a life in prison?
 
Oct 31, 2017
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it's the same symbol, pointed down. being handcuffed he can't exactly do the upright symbol even if he wanted to, but since he's a chan nazi, safe to say that was the intent.




It is, but not in any sort of useful identifying way. If you see a known very online white supremacist or alt-right figure conspicuously making the OK sign in a posed photo: yeah, that's a callback to the OK=WP chan troll meme. The problem comes when you try to figure out if some rando making an OK gesture is secretly signaling their support for white supremacy since it's widely used by non-nazis.
Another troubling aspect of co-opting that symbol is that it stands for the alphabet, F in American Sign Language. Honestly, I would rather saw the fingers off of a neo nazi co-opting that than the sign be tainted because disabled folks using that language have enough on their plates already.

Fuck the neo nazi cunts.
 

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It means OK.

As I understand it, the story goes that alt right types decided to own the libs by saying the OK sign was a symbol of white supremacy, thus making said libs look stupid when they got upset whenever they saw someone using it.

They then proceeded to use it in that context to the point that it took off among white supremacists.

Now the OK sign is used by some as an actual symbol of white supremacy. Whatever trolling was inherent in the usage has fallen away.
Alternately, a shorter version:

Alt right types adopt the OK symbol as a symbol of white supremacy and convince the libs they're just joking, which they're really good at doing
 
Apr 19, 2018
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it's the same symbol, pointed down. being handcuffed he can't exactly do the upright symbol even if he wanted to, but since he's a chan nazi, safe to say that was the intent.




It is, but not in any sort of useful identifying way. If you see a known very online white supremacist or alt-right figure conspicuously making the OK sign in a posed photo: yeah, that's a callback to the OK=WP chan troll meme. The problem comes when you try to figure out if some rando making an OK gesture is secretly signaling their support for white supremacy since it's widely used by non-nazis.
I'll take your word for it. Either way, it would be a shame to allow them to have it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Has there been any more information on the other suspects who were arrested and what their involvement in this was?



That was surely the goal of co-opting it.
Right, they intentionally propagate things that most people don't see as having any harm and use them as signals.

That's why the "it's just trolling, memes, edgelording" etc is so harmful. That's exactly what they want you to think. You're buying their shit.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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my mother was watching arabic TV and they were showing footage from the shooting, with next it it footage from PUBG and the dude on the TV saying shit like '' look at how both of these look so similar'' and some other garbage like this.

For fucks sake..
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The perpetrator's gun license was acquired in late 2017 and their arms obtained legally. This had been planned for years.

There is simply no reason for civilians to have access to semi automatic rifles and pump action shotguns capable of mass murder. I hope I never see them in my country.
I read somewhere that they have been plotting the attack for two years. Two years ago in January, a smaller version of this story played out in Quebec City which the main terrorist has admitted to being inspired by.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'll take your word for it. Either way, it would be a shame to allow them to have it.
No one is letting them have it. Normal people will still use it to mean ok. Basketball players will still use it to mean three points. And immature people will still use it to mean gotcha. Context matters. Id also wager the vast majority of human beings have no clue that it was Co opted by these fuckheads. Innocence is bliss.
 

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look for the clues



I remember in the original topic for this, someone tried to argue that the above picture was an example of how bad both black and white power symbols were. Swore up and down that the picture was an example of black power iconography. Claimed many students were doing "black power fists."

Some idiots see exactly what they want to see and nothing else.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Trying to get caught up on this. Has there been any news about the other 3 in custody? Or has that changed?
4 people were taken into custody yesterday.

3 remain in custody including the main shooter.

The 4th was released as having no connection - he seemed to be an armed person aiming to aid police. The other two are being held and investigated to see if they have any direct links to the attack.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'll take your word for it. Either way, it would be a shame to allow them to have it.
You don't need to, it's pretty easy to suss out when they do it when hanging out with other nazi shitheads, are doing nazi shithead things, or are famous for being a nazi shithead themselves.

It's like a kid using pig latin to disguise what they want to say as if impossible to parse.