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Major terrorist (white supremacist) attack in Christchurch (NZ) [UP6: 4 suspects in custody, 50 confirmed dead] (READ THREADMARKS)
- Thread starter Trevelyon
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Humane treatment has to do with the conduct of humane people, which still applies when dealing with monsters like the Christchurch mosque shooter.
Yes.
We don't compromise our values whatsoever, under any circumstance.
Us Muslims also believe in the redemptive power of seeking forgiveness. There may be a time where he reflects and seeks to be forgiven - inshallah from Allah himself.
Jail, treat with dignity at the very least.
I hope he dies, however that happens I don't give a damn. I don't want forgiveness for that bastard.
A man who gleefully uses a WP sign in court, shows he's not in for redemption. He's happy he did this.
We don't give this line to ISIS terrorists, why should we give that chance of redemption to this one?
I hate this rhetoric.
Like Breivik, this idiot doesn't look like the redemptive type. There's just some people who are above redemption.
Locking him away and forgetting he exists, depriving him of the fame and attention he wants, from talking to his audience and fan base, rot in isolation seem the best punishment in New Zealand.
Personally I would've buried him neck deep in the sands of Fallujah and prolonged his life as much as possible.
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but this guy claims that he had warned the police about the attacker and his gun club a long time ago.
https://www.facebook.com/memmbachewbaccha/videos/1887326531378466/
https://www.facebook.com/memmbachewbaccha/videos/1887326531378466/
Wrong person mate. That being said, I agree with the sentiment.
I will say this, some new networks especially in Central America show you a lot of uncensored footage of different events. Though in this case when it is the shooter taking the footage to promote his hateful actions, yeah it is very fucked up and shouldn't be shared.
I'm sure there's going to be a debate in New Zealand about national security and guns (notice Jacinda Ardern already came out and said laws would change - and they will, you watch. The politics of guns is really different in Australia and New Zealand).
But that's not the most important debate. The most important debate is how this guy got radicalised, full stop.
If there was anything in Australian society that radicalised this guy, that needs to be dealt with. Same if he was radicalised in New Zealand.
If he was radicalised by Trump or other outside influences, then that's a whole other can of worms.
But that's not the most important debate. The most important debate is how this guy got radicalised, full stop.
If there was anything in Australian society that radicalised this guy, that needs to be dealt with. Same if he was radicalised in New Zealand.
If he was radicalised by Trump or other outside influences, then that's a whole other can of worms.
Getting really sick of the media in Australia , trying to paint him as an innocent little blonde kid who turned evil after his dad died .
If it was an isis bomber we wouldn't even know his name. Now we are getting a full trace of his home life and how good a boy he was when he was a kid.
Media need to start listening but sadly they just want the headlines.
If it was an isis bomber we wouldn't even know his name. Now we are getting a full trace of his home life and how good a boy he was when he was a kid.
Media need to start listening but sadly they just want the headlines.
50 breaks my heart. Fuck that monster.
Is there another agency reporting this? Don't want to support sky news.
Is there another agency reporting this? Don't want to support sky news.
Ah shit, sorry. I think there were some old quotes in my reply.
Nah, people who jerk off over "Free Speech" at the expense of human lives and the rise of Nazis are the pathetic ones.
New Zealand showing America what progress really is like...good stuff.
good on them, everything the victims families are going through the last thing they need to worry about right now is costs like that.
New Zealand is doing such a good job in dealing with the aftermath of such a horrific event.
Noticed the death toll in the title was raised to 50. Did one of the hospitalized victims die?
unfortunately they found the body of one more person who died during the attack.
That is just crazy. You lose those you love most and more is taken away from you.
Fair and salient point.
I feel like the world now has to be vigilant about these things.
Who is the person jerking off over free speech? White supremacists can be deplatformed at any time by society once they decide to stop hosting their websites and stop giving them ads and clicks. Hopefully this tragedy moves people towards that.
Calling for a government run list of allowed ideologies isn't the answer.
That is already a thing, it just targets brown and left people in most western countries
Just saw Trump demand for Fox to bring Jeanine Pirro back on the air. He's such a piece of shit. That's what he's focused on after an attack like this and it's fucking apparent it's completely on purpose. His way of sending a message.
true cowardice is hiding behind freedom of speech to spew hatred.
Free speech should have checks and balances while holding those who abuse it accountable.
The Invisible Hand didn't protect 6 million Jews, it didn't protect Heather heyer, L'Simcha Congregation in Pittsburgh, or the 100+ casualties in NZ.
We're willing to fight extremists around the world, but not in our own back yards. So many resources devoted because of one 9/11, and yet the movement behind thousands of 9/11s has been handled with kid gloves by comparison.
Sine you are invoking Nazis, I will as well. Open a history book and read about the Reichstag Fire Decree. In response to a terrorist attack (false flag in the case of the fire, NZ attack obviously isn't) the German government restricted - (from wiki) personal freedom, freedom of expression, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications. Warrants for House searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.
I partially agree with your "whataboutism" statement that islamic terrorists have huge resources put against them while white terrorists have very little. However, if you've watched recent DoJ congressional testimony there are lawmakers and agency officials that are very aware of the threat of radicalized home grown terrorists. That change in focus can't wholly be complete with the current government.
Air NZ originally seemed to be bumping prices up for flights to christchurch, before the finance minister noticed people talking about it on twitter, and said he would give them a call.
Next thing you know flgihts are reduced to a quarter of the previous price, immediate family members fly free and extended family gets a further discounted rate.
I just got straight up threatened on twitter indirectly.
Context is that there was a post made about "soy boys" yelling at this woman (works for that show run by Alex Jones), so the ones support of him on twitter come on and say this is why we need guns to fight against soy boys. So i chirp in to say along lies of how it's sad you need a gun to be equal to the soy boy because you are too weak in the inside with insecurity.
Mob army comes, some indirectly threaten me saying they buy guns and or have guns to wad off soy boys like me. Report some toxic ones, twitter deemed it not abusive. Free army comes in saying how it's perfectly acceptable to say things like that etc.
When abuse/threats = protected by free speech. Like jeez, i can't wrap my head around that.
Police said it's bad timing but unrelated, guy was just intoxicated and has been arrested.
That's insane.
These racist and bigoted scum are truly galvanizing behind social media and when confronted with facts and sober thought, they cling onto their pathetic weapons. I hope we continue to expose them in spite of their threats.
So your response to examples of countless deaths that occurred after the rise of right wing populist movements - all of which are proven to hijack new, unregulated forms of media and communication to spread their message - is to invoke Godwin's law and the slippery slope fallacy and then accuse someone else of whataboutism? Disgusting.
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For me indirect threats are still threats.
I wasn't aware of the term soy boy, internet is incredible always a new word to insult people and put them in a category ...
On the free speech subject i'm All for it.
As a philosophical satanist, it's important to say what you have to say but always be aware that if you have this right the people in front of you have the same right.
So basically if you are dumb prepare to embrace the shitstorm.
Every time I am confronted with a racist moron , I try to understand why he is like this and maybe with good arguments I will make him understand why I think is wrong.
If that person can't say what he thinks, his hate will grow stronger overtime and maybe turn into something worse.
I think it's better to know people and try to civilise them than let them in their corner .
Another thing, black/death metal music have often extremely violent lyrics about killing people in atrocious manners, to kill Christians and all.
Have you often seen a black metal mass/serial murderer?
Do you think it needs to be censored?
To express yourself violently in music does not make you a bad person , same goes with video games.
I think it's really difficult to target someone online because of the keyboard barrier.
Most of the people talking shit and going full racist online are you nice coworkers or neighbors.
If you censor them what will happen?
Let them speak and you will see who they really are.
This deserves it own thread. 50 year old piece of shit trying to murder a teen.