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Major terrorist (white supremacist) attack in Christchurch (NZ) [UP6: 4 suspects in custody, 50 confirmed dead] (READ THREADMARKS)
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maybe dont try to "well achtually" the circumstances of a terror attack on the same fucking day it happened.
its basic tact man, now aint the time.
A Resetera member is being a wishywashy both-sidesy piece of shit about the motivations of a person who murdered 49 of my neighbours. I have every right to tell him he's vile and that he should get fucked.
You aren't owed my civility. Not here. Not today.
Wtf at people analyzing the manifesto as some #deep sociological piece? It's fucking bullshit from deranged edgelord children.
It's fine. I get why he's angry. It's a very emotional time for a ton of people right now. There will be time for introspection and analysis of this event later, I get that everyone's probably very heavily in emotional mind right now.
You're insane.
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Yep, the biggest question mark to ever live. We can put a man on the moon, but living in harmony is too far a stretch.
Was kind of confused for a while if this was a case of someone managing to somehow smuggle in guns into the country. Didn't realize New Zealand just has notoriously lax gun laws.
I truly hate how these murderers get humanized so fast. While they demonize every damn other person in this country. The guy is a monster and a terrorist.
Then can you please look them up before you write something like that? It comes off as dismissive.
I know who Candace Owens is and I haven't looked her up in ages. Pewdiepie's antics aren't exactly hidden.
It's not difficult to know their positions when they lay it out in the open.
Enough with the concerned trolling schwifty. I saw your original post. Quit your bs.
This is the worst news to awaken to. My heart goes out to all the people and the families of the victims affected by this monstrous act.
What about free speech! That's what get me. Somehow the world has shifted where "free speech" = accept my vile point of view as a viable point of fact without consequence and while you're at it, amplify it for me, thx.
Even in places with specific laws banning imagery etc...like Germany its not like the bigots are cowering or can't disseminate their ideas freely. Its just the fact that now they demand to be mainstream, and they are winning.
First of all. Not a he. Second of all. The fact that I am not treating you with the civility you desire does not automatically make my conclusions wrong. I have zero tolerance for bullshit right now.
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I just think we have to be very measured in who we classify as enablers. There are certainly people, many people, who have helped create an enviroment that fosters the school of thought that these shooters subscribed too but we still must be careful. Would you burn your Hitchens and Dawkins books if the shooter claimed to be a huge fan of theirs?
Also: Just because someone in this thread has a difference in opinion, and I am speaking about the not very agregious ones, does not make them a vile piece of shit.
My condolences to the Muslim Community of Christchurch.
Also: Just because someone in this thread has a difference in opinion, and I am speaking about the not very agregious ones, does not make them a vile piece of shit.
My condolences to the Muslim Community of Christchurch.
stop trying to make this thread about pewdiepie, you're being really insulting to the gravity of the tragedy at hand
just say the deaths suck without jumping through hoops to defend your fave, fuck
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Now is not the time to be making things up. I have no clue what you're saying.
Wanted? Got. Banner/Miller/Sessions types just had to sprinkle in a few non-Muslim countries for the five conservatives on the Supreme Court to ignore all the evidence from Trump's public statements, tweets, and previous attempts at Muslim Ban executive orders, and find that it didn't target a specific religion and was therefore constitutional.
Maybe you should do a modicum of research before coming in with the ignorant take. It makes you look dumb on a normal day but today it makes you look like an inconsiderate shit.
Rather than revel in your ignorance, maybe you should stay quiet. "I don't know who she is, therefore she can't possibly have inspired the shooter" isn't an argument.
I would suspect he is familiar with them. One common human behavior is to overlook flaws or the wrongdoing of people, organizations, or systems even if you have the slightest vested interest.
I suspect he is a pewdiepie subscriber. Even this little bit of vested interest can invoke the behavior we see from the poster in some cases.
I advise people to unsubscribe from pewdiepie if they haven't already.
Check out what he tweeted less than 30 mins after his "warmest sympathies"
"Please know we are working vigilantly to remove any violent footage."
Riiight..because that is the problem.
One of the sad realization in this life, is that it is so much easier and quick to destroy than to build. Somehow we will be resilient and rebuild time and time again.
We really need to deplatform these fucks
Granted, I'm not in NZ so don't know if this is referencing that - but every UK article I've come across has labelled this as a terror attack.
I might be parsing this incorrectly, but I think he's saying that PewDiePie and Candance Owens are awful (at least I hope he is), and that the shooter's manifesto seems to be riddled with red herrings
I think the person is saying that its still relevant given that it still rings true alot of the time.
Our PM (that being, New Zealand's PM) called it a terror attack as well.
Even Oz PM Morrison called him a terrorist. Not something the BBC or the White House has been able to do so far....
Man, this shit isn't right. Just going about your own business and your dead cause of some fucking asshole.
This is the first and biggest problem to address. Radicalized terrorist can and will happen among people of any ethnic group. Europe has a long history of red and black terrorism and it was organized and supplied white people killing other white people, no "lone wolves".
We need to look at this kind of phenomenon just like we do at any other form of terrorism, which means we need to find the channels were these people get radicalized, whatever economical support they may or may not get, and anyone who's possibly tied with them. We need to work on prevention and we need to do so looking in the same places we have no problem investigating when we go after other forms of terrorism. Failing to recognize that there is an ideological movement behind acts like this means we'll never defeat it.
I really don't think you do. In a thread about a mass shooting in which 49 people were killed, you compared the shit people are rightfully giving racists like Candace Owens and Pewdiepie to an execution.
This issue is not that Kitsunelaine is being overly emotional, it's that you're playing armchair philosopher despite being embarrassingly underequipped for the task. Your key takeaway from this incident is stupid bullshit that ignores the real issue, and the insults were well deserved.
The problem is that this isn't a new thing. These services happily look the other way when it involves white nationalism. The only thing people can do is boycott them. Delete your Facebook and Twitter.