You misunderstood me.
I don't think anyone here should look too deeply into the manifesto. It's a pro white manifesto. It's also stacked with memes, and jokes.
So I hope no one is trying to figure out how Spyro inspired his ethno nationalism.
I'm a bit puzzled by the bit about the Siege of Vienna (like, what does he mean with "apparently?" There's some bizzarre conspiracy theory I'm not aware of?) but the rest is spot on.
sadly these things seem to feed off each other and it doesn't seem like they are going to stop.Can't believe this fucking monster is using Ebbas name to justify all this.
I don't get it, wasn't there only one shooter who live streamed everything? Who are the 4 people arrested?
It's becoming clearer to me that thats not accurate.I don't get it, wasn't there only one shooter who live streamed everything? Who are the 4 people arrested?
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You misunderstood me.
I don't think anyone here should look too deeply into the manifesto. It's a pro white manifesto. It's also stacked with memes, and jokes.
So I hope no one is trying to figure out how Spyro inspired his ethno nationalism.
He gets the date a bit off - 1683, not 1863. Basically the Ottoman Empire made a a final major attempt to get a foothold in Europe beyond what is now Hungary and Romania, but were thwarted for a variety of reasons (including the largest cavalry charge in history, courtesy of the Poles). So it ends up commonly cited among shitheels like today's shooter as a notion of 'Christendom' defending itself against Islamic rule (which it admittedly was seen as back in the day - John III was dubbed 'the Saviour of Christendom' for his intervention). particularly given the additional context of how nations like Hungary and Poland have reacted to the refugee crisis. Nevermind of course the Ottomans were literally invading with like, an army and shit, rather than being innocent people trying to take part in Friday prayers in peace; the 'apparently' is because it's, as with so much of this, disingenuous usage of history to which they are largely unconnected to rationalise their bigotry.
Yeah, that sums it up on what I want to say.^
The guy is clearly trying to get people have non-sensical arguments over his manifesto, he's included bs like this to "troll" people, the more people talk about his manifesto the more people talk about his message, the more it propagates. The issue is do you not talk about it at all, what constitutes non-sensical etc.
I believe this has been corrected as three people being in custody in relation to the terrorist attack, with one already charged with murder (the Australian national, Brenton Tarrant).I don't get it, wasn't there only one shooter who live streamed everything? Who are the 4 people arrested?
Yeah, I know history and I know nationalist idiots try to weaponize it for the own ends, I'm just puzzled because it sounded like he was dismissing what was, in fact, the third attempt of the Ottoman empire to military invade Europe. Maybe he's referring to the idea of making what was a fairly "mundane" imperialistic move by the Ottomans into some sort of "clash fo cultures".
Dude, calm down. That's not even close to what I wanted to say.are you dismissing the threat of whtie nationalism because white nationalists like memes
what the fuck is wrong with you
So I knew about 4chan, never heard of 8chan. Screened it for half an hour. Holyyyyy shittt!!! People are cheering on and praising the guy. There are multiple appreciation threads, these people are filled with hate. They are saying the guy has been thinking of this for 3 years and been planning it for 3 months and that some people on 8chan knew of his plans. How come no security agency knew about it? Unbelievable.
It's also worth noting that the New Zealand vs Bangladesh cricket test match was scheduled to take place the next day just across the street. Bangladesh doesn't have a large fanbase in NZ but still, the team, support staff, reporters and fans were all in town, so that's a bit more traffic than usual. The team and support staff were at the mosque but are safe btw (and the test match is obviously cancelled).And they choose this time and this pray of the week in particular because they know friday "Jumma" pray is the most gathering.
I don't think I can vocalize my disgust without getting permanently banned.
Dude, calm down. That's not even close to what I wanted to say.
This is a fucking disgrace. 49 people dead, 8chan still up promoting bullshit and no one taking action to put a stop to it.
Religious studies should be fucking mandatory at this point for elementary curriculum and higher. The only way we can even begin to erode the hatred is to educate children on the different beliefs in the world so they can be better than us.
"No one is asking you to like _______, or convert. We're just asking that you understand and respect."
This is the first thing said at all classes at my university for Religious studies.
This is a fucking disgrace. 49 people dead, 8chan still up promoting bullshit and no one taking action to put a stop to it.
Religious studies should be fucking mandatory at this point for elementary curriculum and higher. The only way we can even begin to erode the hatred is to educate children on the different beliefs in the world so they can be better than us.
"No one is asking you to like _______, or convert. We're just asking that you understand and respect."
This is the first thing said at all classes at my university for Religious studies.
These horrible spikes always happened, were even worse than they are today, and took place more often but we just never heard about it
On a global historical scale I mean - if you're talking about the patterns specifically in the USA then you're right that spiking mass killings are more prevalent then they were historically (crime in total is still down though)
I don't see that happening. I mean look at MGTOW on reddit (promotes anti women views). The Toronto van attacker was also inspired by people in those reddit, 4chan dwellings and those sites are still upCant we put some heat on the hosting company to shut the place down?
Police should be able to arrest anyone that engage with 8chan discussions
RIP to the victims
With respect, I think after reading parts of the manifesto, some of us are starting to worry that "taking it seriously" is exactly what the terrorist wants. Something that would give him a laugh, because he wove it to be so ridiculous and baity.Okay. I'm just... I've seen too many people going "lol what is this meme filled garbage, why is anyone taking any of this seriously". I'm exhausted, is all. It's 2am and I haven't been able to sleep. This all happened about a ten minute drive away from where I live. My tolernace level is at an all time low right now.
With respect, I think after reading parts of the manifesto, some of us are starting to worry that "taking it seriously" is exactly what the terrorist wants. Something that would give him a laugh, because he wove it to be so ridiculous and baity.
We're all figuring this out together, though. Details are still coming to light. People are still mourning. Let's at least show each other some grace here while we can; even while it's hard to.
I don't see that happening. I mean look at MGTOW on reddit (promotes anti women views). The Toronto van attacker was also inspired by people in those reddit, 4chan dwellings and those sites are still up
An uneducated murdering racist failure with an ideology.That manifesto was dumb. It contradicts itself and is full of fantasy racist fairy tales. He's just an uneducated murdering racist failure.
Yeah it's cool.Okay. I'm just... I've seen too many people going "lol what is this meme filled garbage, why is anyone taking any of this seriously". I'm exhausted, is all.
Cant we put some heat on the hosting company to shut the place down?
Religious studies should be fucking mandatory at this point for elementary curriculum and higher.
Truly sickening. This is the only option at this point. Beef up security at Mosques because its not even safe for people to pray in peace anymore.
Religious studies should be fucking mandatory at this point for elementary curriculum and higher. The only way we can even begin to erode the hatred is to educate children on the different beliefs in the world so they can be better than us.
"No one is asking you to like _______, or convert. We're just asking that you understand and respect."
This is the first thing said at all classes at my university for Religious studies.
If they can go after the hydra of the TPB, they can shut down the cockroach 4chan den and its spawns. The roaches won't be eliminated, but their motel will be gone and their meetings will be less organized.Not sure who that would even be. From what I'm googling, it's hosted by the same people who host 2channel?
With respect, I think after reading parts of the manifesto, some of us are starting to worry that "taking it seriously" is exactly what the terrorist wants. Something that would give him a laugh, because he wove it to be so ridiculous and baity.
We're all figuring this out together, though. Details are still coming to light. People are still mourning. Let's at least show each other some grace here while we can; even while it's hard to.