The media aren't calling this a terrorist attack?
I have no words left.
Are you seriously trying to dunk on Americans right now?I think you should replace the "(NZ)" in the thread title with "(city in New Zealand)".
Many Americans probably don't know what "NZ" stands for, let alone that Christchurch is a city there. They might just read the thread title and think the shooting happened in a Christian church, not a mosque.
At least Swedish media are calling it a terrorist attack, just like it is.
Are gun laws in New Zealand like those in Australia or are they more lax?
Are gun laws in New Zealand like those in Australia or are they more lax?
Yeah, it's extremely disheartening. One of the boardmembers at our mosque is so scared that she texted me this morning if I knew anyone that can guard the building. Since I used to work security and hospitals around town years ago, she thought I might know security companies. We leave the gates wide open for people to come in...
i get you though, if more people treated each other as human beings we wouldn't be in this mess. Instead we have this stupid "us" vs "them".
This should be a government initiative at this point to fund security at Mosques and other religious buildings world wide. Governments allow online platforms to radicalize the youth, promote hate and xenophobia , Islamophobia, etc..I fear is is only the beginning.Yeah, it's extremely disheartening. One of the boardmembers at our mosque is so scared that she texted me this morning if I knew anyone that can guard the building. Since I used to work security and hospitals around town years ago, she thought I might know security companies. We leave the gates wide open for people to come in...
Doing absolutely nothing as you propose would be horrific. Or equating doing anything to the shit they do, is just....the fuck duder?
As I stated, these people are happy about terrorism. 8chan itself is one of the biggest internet hotbeds for the alt-right. It's where Gamergate was formed and many of their defenses and attack campaigns were thought up. It's where many far-right wing fuckwits meet to determine how to convert people via "innocent memeing". It's literally a haven for child porn. It's etc. etc. etc. etc.
Come on.
I dunno, 8 Chan isn't just a regular site. While OBVIOUSLY the physical act of posting anything on line should never be illegal...the odds that said content posted on 8Chan would be illegal (child porn, terrorist threats) arent' exactly minute.
Like if I had 'kiddierape.com' filled with solely child porn and someone posted into it many wouldn't have an issue with an investigation happening on said poster. But because a site throws that stuff in there along with JoJo memes, somehow we are just supposed to focus on the JoJo stuff, lol.
Arresting someone is extreme, but if someone was an avid poster on a jihadist recruitment site most wouldn't have a problem...I don't know how suddenly a site that just dabbles on jihadist murder calls but has really good manga images suddenly would get a green light
Truly sickening. This is the only option at this point. Beef up security at Mosques because its not even safe for people to pray in peace anymore.
I think it's my kids being so innocent beside me stirring me up.
I'm sorry I have to get this out my chest.
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK the media for not calling this a terrorist attack. I won't be surprised that in week the terrorist will be the victim of something. Fucking hypocrites.
Nah they'll get a passSo this is terrorist was live streaming this on Facebook, and people are commenting atrocious things, are the authorities actually going to look into those sick fucks??
This is the world my kids are going to fix.Yeah it hits extra hard when you realize this is the world your kids are going to inhabit.
So, to be fair, all the reports I have read have labeled this a terrorist attack, since that is how NZ's prime minister has called it. Any news outlet not calling this terrorism will immediately be added to my black list of news sites.
Same here in Finland, atleast for the more major outlets that I checked reporting from. Ministry of foreign affairs also called it as a "cowardly act of terrorism".
At least Swedish media are calling it a terrorist attack, just like it is. Shame on the media that don't.
I can't speak for everyone else but as a muslim I'm more than fine if white folks just left me the fuck alone. Love? Compassion? Nah I'm good, just leave me be. Sadly even that seems too much to ask for :/
i get you though, if more people treated each other as human beings we wouldn't be in this mess. Instead we have this stupid "us" vs "them".
I went to a Sunday school where we studied about most major Religions. I think it's important as well. It helps children learn to not de-humanize people of other faiths because their other elders/parents feed them some bullshit.This is a fucking disgrace. 49 people dead, 8chan still up promoting bullshit and no one taking action to put a stop to it.
Religious studies should be fucking mandatory at this point for elementary curriculum and higher. The only way we can even begin to erode the hatred is to educate children on the different beliefs in the world so they can be better than us.
"No one is asking you to like _______, or convert. We're just asking that you understand and respect."
This is the first thing said at all classes at my university for Religious studies.
I ain't made any proposals.
And yes, doing extreme things is equal to doing extreme things.
So you don't get why 8chan in particular is a danger. Nor why far-right wing terrorism is a threat to the world at large. Got it.
That silicon valley neo liberal bubble must be one hell of a thing.
I ain't made any proposals.
And yes, doing extreme things is equal to doing extreme things.
I am NOT here to defend the cesspool that is 8chan.
So I won't, this is just a discussion board and people are rightfully heated about this shit, this isn't the legislature where anything of consequence gets done. Y'all do y'all.
just have her call the local cops and they should be able to send a cruiser.Yeah, it's extremely disheartening. One of the boardmembers at our mosque is so scared that she texted me this morning if I knew anyone that can guard the building. Since I used to work security at hospitals around town years ago, she thought I might know security companies. We leave the gates wide open for people to come in...
It also allows organised bodies to prevent damage more than ever (by individuals or otherwise)Technology now allows for a single person to do more damage than ever.
I know it's heated and trust me, I don't wanna be on some 'GOTCHA BITCH, YOUSE A RACIST TERRORIST'.
My bigger point is that it's not binary of where X = Y and there's plenty of grey areas we need to look into. Because I think its getting more and more obvious that the current way we deal things is just exacerbating the problem. While I understand the slippery slope of it all, it feels like we get all the negatives and none of the positives (hell, as a black dude in NYC feels like I get all the negatives of a police state with the NYPD, but none of the positives, lol).
There's gotta be a way to draw the line where freedoms are protected AND its not so easy to use it as a shield for pure evil
We used to do that, now local PD's saying they can't send out one officer alone, has to be at least two, and no less than 4 hours. And it's just unaffordable right now.just have her call the local cops and they should be able to send a cruiser.
my local mosque has always had a cop parked outside who typically shows up early and helps guide traffic after prayer. i think its a good detterant.
I want all these fuck to be called out, then deplatformed.I find it interesting that CNN isn't mentioning the PewDiePie aspect.
Probably a good thing as it would direct more traffic to him.
People on KF was laughing this post, so I will like to correct you and say that 8chan is anonymous board8chan should simply be banned with everyone who has an account on there