Why spend resources on this guy. He is hopeless . He had a smile walking into the court today. Feed a starving child in Africa rather than him.
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Major terrorist (white supremacist) attack in Christchurch (NZ) [UP6: 4 suspects in custody, 50 confirmed dead] (READ THREADMARKS)
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Not with Trump as president. Send this guy to the middle east.
Wish we could just shoot 1 bullet at him for every victim he wounded and killed .
Such a waste of money and time to keep this idiot still breathing .
If I was a cop I would find it hard not to just put a bullet into him "accidentally"
Such a waste of money and time to keep this idiot still breathing .
If I was a cop I would find it hard not to just put a bullet into him "accidentally"
In the US? With Trump as president? My friend do you know understand white nationalist have a strong hold in US Jails? This guy would be praised and put in some protective ward in the US. If you really want him to get ravaged, you need to send him to the Middle East and have him live there surrounded in a cell with Muslims living a better life than him for the rest of his life.
We must not allow this narrative about a "lone wolf" to gain any credibility since it is done by design by white supremacist groups. It removes any sort of culpability from any one specific group or the entire white power movement in general. These are terrorist. Any talk about this being a lone wolf counts as a small victory to the white supremacist movement.
Yup this is the only and most realistic solution right now. Eventually there will come a day when western media and governments start doing something about white youth radicalizing online on white supremecist themed social platforms. Eventually they will be forced to but the question is when. This is only the beginning. It's going to get worst and worst so it's best to have a chance against these terrorist.
Christian churches around me have a police officer on duty for services. Mosques absolutely should after this as I fear copycats.
Man i missed out on when this went down while serving a ban.
It's jawdropping to me that this guy lives in a complete meme-y world and thinks everything is for the lulz. Never seen this much amount of wanton nihilism. Anders Brevik and others were die-hard, serious Nazi soldiers. This guy is just a bad 4chan post come to life. It's like real life modern Joker. Even that A-OK symbol in the courtroom. God.
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi raajioun.
It's jawdropping to me that this guy lives in a complete meme-y world and thinks everything is for the lulz. Never seen this much amount of wanton nihilism. Anders Brevik and others were die-hard, serious Nazi soldiers. This guy is just a bad 4chan post come to life. It's like real life modern Joker. Even that A-OK symbol in the courtroom. God.
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi raajioun.
Except you're wrong. This guy is a die hard Nazi soldier. His world view as explained in his manifesto is almost identical to Brievek's. He's just coated his lingo with memes and internet edginess. Don't fall for his games which are meant to make you think he thinks this was all a joke. This is what Nazis do now. They are still Nazis.
What's the point of this? It won't bring people back. It won't make people feel better. It's a misguided sense of 'justice' that is really just spiteful revenge. It does nothing. No, these people should rot in prison for the rest of their lives. They should have time to understand the concept and scope of their crimes and what they've taken away from the world.
Been following this story through radio and have seen the tweets here and there.
You can't make this shit up. Instead of tweeting about the event, Orange Rot is threatening American citizens with force from the military and armed bikers.
Then the shit he goes on to say later about white supremacy and how it's not a problem.
When does rioting in the streets happen? How does it happen? How does tarring and feathering initiate?
If we don't impeach this mother fucker the cynicism toward government will be impossible to recover from for decades.
You can't make this shit up. Instead of tweeting about the event, Orange Rot is threatening American citizens with force from the military and armed bikers.
Then the shit he goes on to say later about white supremacy and how it's not a problem.
When does rioting in the streets happen? How does it happen? How does tarring and feathering initiate?
If we don't impeach this mother fucker the cynicism toward government will be impossible to recover from for decades.
Yeah I have zero faith in US police to do anything other than the bare minimum for a mosque.
I drove past a mosque on my way to work earlier this evening (Southampton, UK) and there were police standing at the door.
I want to give advice to anyone out there that hasn't seen the video and gets sent a link to see it.....
Dont do it. Don't fucking watch it. Don't. Just don't.
I would assume most people wouldn't anyway but I didn't hear about this until the afternoon rolled around and it was the video someone sent me. I didn't know what I was getting into. I cried. I just feel broken for those poor people. This world....WTF is happening?
Dont do it. Don't fucking watch it. Don't. Just don't.
I would assume most people wouldn't anyway but I didn't hear about this until the afternoon rolled around and it was the video someone sent me. I didn't know what I was getting into. I cried. I just feel broken for those poor people. This world....WTF is happening?
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You're right he is just as evil and dedicated to the supremacist ideology. But what I mean is his behavior is completely ridiculous. Even his last 8chan post is like "OK LADS ITS BEEN AN HONOR TIME TO GO KILL INVADERS TOP KEK LUL" bullshit.
holy shit that's an awful excuse. they were better off saying they didn't know the sub reddits existed.
In our mosque today we went over emergency evacuation procedure. It was surreal.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were an uptick of bomb threats made against mosques all over the world in reaction to this attack
I remember waking up today and seeing a Facebook post talking about a shooting. I thought to myself, great another shooting in the US but low and behold I find out that this happened in NZ of all places. Regardless of that it didn't stop me from thinking the next thing "how many people died?" When I saw the body count, my heart sunk and I've been pretty upset all day.
49 people lost their lives with the potential for more lives to be lost due to some monster thinking this is what needed to be done to keep the white race going. I honestly don't get it and the fact that this is expected by other people who think this way is absolutely terrifying. What does this accomplish in their mind? Why go so far as to kill innocent people who are harmless/defenseless? This terrorist attack has me in pure disbelief and I don't even know what to think right now.
I'm devastated that people think this way and think that the solution towards their "righteous cause" is to off innocent people. Why why why?
49 people lost their lives with the potential for more lives to be lost due to some monster thinking this is what needed to be done to keep the white race going. I honestly don't get it and the fact that this is expected by other people who think this way is absolutely terrifying. What does this accomplish in their mind? Why go so far as to kill innocent people who are harmless/defenseless? This terrorist attack has me in pure disbelief and I don't even know what to think right now.
I'm devastated that people think this way and think that the solution towards their "righteous cause" is to off innocent people. Why why why?
I don't get how people can casually talk about the video. I haven't seen it but I've read descriptions and I couldn't help but break down in tears all day.
I learned that there are only 46000 Muslims in New Zealand or about 1% of the population. This monster killed more than 1/1000 of the country's muslim population. No words.
I learned that there are only 46000 Muslims in New Zealand or about 1% of the population. This monster killed more than 1/1000 of the country's muslim population. No words.
Yeah it autoplayed in my Twitter yesterday and I don't understand how you could possibly analyze it or watch or more than once, and this was just a very short clip. People were talking about some 15 minute shit in here and I don't understand how you could even do that to yourself. Leave that to the people who have to do it. All I can say is at the very least I hope that fucker is put in solitary for the rest of his life with no possible way to off himself.
It's a little suspect when I see people who say they watched it and act surprised it shows people getting shot.
What did you think? Some folks probably accidentally saw it I know but some of the innocence seems a bit feined when you straight up looked for it.
What did you think? Some folks probably accidentally saw it I know but some of the innocence seems a bit feined when you straight up looked for it.
Can we please fucking ban guns world wide and invest in stopping the black market for it?
No permits, nothing. This shit is too dangerous for people.
And extremist sites need to be nuked out of the internet. De-platform that poison.
No permits, nothing. This shit is too dangerous for people.
And extremist sites need to be nuked out of the internet. De-platform that poison.
Hopefully this thread is an appropriate place to ask about this, but I can fuck off if not; this has made me think about my kid brother a little bit though and I now feel like I should take the responsibility of talking to him about white supremacy and how it appears to be organizing and consuming young men through the internet. Now I don't have any super obvious reasons to be alarmed about my brother yet; he just turned 15 today and I've never heard him say an outwardly racist thing in his life. But that said, he reminds me a lot of myself, and to be quite honest, I was kind of an ignorant fuckhead at his age. I was reserved, spent almost all my time online, spent a lot of time of 4chan and other message boards, and I spewed a lot of really awful shit in the "privacy" of my internet life. My brother, at least in terms of being pretty quiet and internet-addicted, is similar. Luckily I turned my shit around when I had a series of really eye-opening, perspective changing conversations and experiences early in college, but that shit was chance. I could have easily said "Eh this is stupid" and never went to this talk where I listened to an immigrant woman break down in tears over the great inequalities she had experienced in her life, for example. I don't want to leave my brother's perspective of the world around him up to chance.
That said, last month out of the blue he asked me at dinner "Bro, you subscribed to PewDiePie?? You gotta subscribe bro".
I guess my actual question is: does anyone have any good resources for having discussions about white supremacist culture with a teenager/young adult? I'm not exactly the most well spoken or persuasive person to be quite honest. And I know that I can't just say to him "Dude, PewDiePie and his fan base enabled a culture that fed into that shooting. At very best he's a white supremacist sympathizer from the fact alone that he can't condemn on clear terms that white supremacy is bad and has no place in a modern society" despite that basically being how I feel, because I know he'll just shut down and refuse to engage in the conversation with me. I just want it to be productive, and would love some tools to help me do that.
Anyway this whole thing has made me sick. I'm sending all my best wishes to the survivors, the families of those involved, and any out there who tonight are terrified to freely worship. I feel hopeless, but this is perhaps one of the few things I do have control over.
That said, last month out of the blue he asked me at dinner "Bro, you subscribed to PewDiePie?? You gotta subscribe bro".
I guess my actual question is: does anyone have any good resources for having discussions about white supremacist culture with a teenager/young adult? I'm not exactly the most well spoken or persuasive person to be quite honest. And I know that I can't just say to him "Dude, PewDiePie and his fan base enabled a culture that fed into that shooting. At very best he's a white supremacist sympathizer from the fact alone that he can't condemn on clear terms that white supremacy is bad and has no place in a modern society" despite that basically being how I feel, because I know he'll just shut down and refuse to engage in the conversation with me. I just want it to be productive, and would love some tools to help me do that.
Anyway this whole thing has made me sick. I'm sending all my best wishes to the survivors, the families of those involved, and any out there who tonight are terrified to freely worship. I feel hopeless, but this is perhaps one of the few things I do have control over.
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sigh, I start talking about this today and my brother remarks "it's nobodies fault, it was just some crazy memelord, nobody on YouTube or twitter forced him to do it."
Unfortunately I'm betting that his is not a unique opinion.
Unfortunately I'm betting that his is not a unique opinion.
It was plastered all over Twitter yesterday under top 10 trending tags. But yeah I've seen people in here saying it was sent to them and it's like who the fuck would send you that and shouldn't you question why they are downloading that and sharing it?
Ask him if he thought that about a killer radicalized online by ISIS' social media presence.
Someone said there mom sent it to them and they were shocked how violent it was and I was like "really?"
Although to be fair I could see a mom sending a video without watching it.
Yeah have that talk, I'm gonna do it with my younger bro (again) for similar reasons, and probably even a cousin in law who is doing similar questionable things probably in part to his trump supporter father.
People say this gen z is trending liberal but anecdotally I don't really buy it.
Damn 😢
My condolences go out to all the families hurt by this white supremacist piece of shit.
People say a lot of things about Gen Z, mostly that they turn conservative, actually.
I think there isn't a narrative to be said about this generation, life experiences are so vastly different from one individual to another that it's really hard to define a generation with a few key characteristics. Not in this day and age.
Everything about this shooting is beyond fucked up, and in New Zealand of all places, just goes to show that this can happen pretty much anywhere these days as long as radicalism is allowed to flourish under the pretense of being free speech.
The big worry here is that we don't know the extent of the problem with white surpremacists like the person who committed the shooting and the seemingly very similar Anders Breivik, this could easily get a whole lot worse due to the power of the internet.
That Australian news anchor said it best, we cannot pretend that we are shocked that this event happened, the writing has been on the wall for a long time now and terrorism committed by white men motivated by a hate of forgeiners have only increased. This is happening everywhere in the west in different capacities and attacks like this and Utøya could happen where we least expect it.
The big worry here is that we don't know the extent of the problem with white surpremacists like the person who committed the shooting and the seemingly very similar Anders Breivik, this could easily get a whole lot worse due to the power of the internet.
That Australian news anchor said it best, we cannot pretend that we are shocked that this event happened, the writing has been on the wall for a long time now and terrorism committed by white men motivated by a hate of forgeiners have only increased. This is happening everywhere in the west in different capacities and attacks like this and Utøya could happen where we least expect it.
I live in Christchurch and this is the last thing our city needed. This is a city still rebuilding from the 2011 earthquakes which brought widespread fear and anxiety. This is just awful beyond words. I'm still having trouble believing it all.